Canada's tanks

[Fishbone Jones]

Sorry, bit of a brain fart. Not flails but ploughs.

 

[IKnowNothing]

Two questions-

Is that 30 million the general new "new Leopard price" or the specific "new 2A8" price. That is to say, could a 2A6M or 2A7 be built and acquired at a materially lower price point, if not, what where is the line?

and, if a 21st century MBT can be built materially cheaper- just not to the spec of the latest and greatest- do we (the west, not just Canada) need to be thinking about "good enough"

 

[OldSolduer]

Two questions-

Is that 30 million the new "new Leopard price" or the specific "new 2A8" price. That is to say, could a 2A6M or 2A7 be built and acquired at a materially lower price point, if not, what where is the line?

and, if a 21st century MBT can be built materially cheaper- just not to the spec of the latest and greatest- do we (the west, not just Canada) need to be thinking about "good enough"

Perfection is the enemy of good enough. I quite agree with you.

 

[Blackadder1916]

We need to build our own and keep the money in country. Do we still have the plans for M4A3E8s?

That's if we built Shermans in Canada.

Tank Production in Canada (AHQ report from 1950)

https://www.canada.ca/content/dam/themes/defence/caf/militaryhistory/dhh/reports/ahq-reports/ahq038.pdf

 

[FJAG]

That's if we built Shermans in Canada.

Tank Production in Canada (AHQ report from 1950)

https://www.canada.ca/content/dam/themes/defence/caf/militaryhistory/dhh/reports/ahq-reports/ahq038.pdf

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I do believe that the Grizzley was in fact an M4A1 Sherman. While the RAM was not an M4, it was based on the M3 Lee chassis removing the sponson gun and given a better turret. The M3 chassis evolved into the M4 chassis. By the time that Canadian troops went into combat the Ram's 6 pdr was considered inadequate so it stayed a training tanks while Canadian's deployed in American M4s (having also first spent some time in Brit tanks)

Another point. A large number of Sextons were built in Canada. First several hundred on the Ram M3 chassis and subsequently, many more on the Grizzley M4 chassis. The Sexton was a highly successful design and stayed in service for at least a decade after the war with the Brits. I'm not sure how long they remained in service in Canada. We did have 3 Militia artillery regiments (26, 29 and 39 Fd) designated as (SP) until around 1964/5 but they would undoubtably have given up their SP guns when the new towed 105mm entered service in the 1950s for both RegF and Militia regiments.

 

[Rudburg]

We did have 3 Militia artillery regiments (26, 29 and 39 Fd) designated as (SP) until around 1964/5 but they would undoubtably have given up their SP guns when the new towed 105mm entered service in the 1950s for both RegF and Militia regiments.

29 Fd gave up the 25-Pdr in 1957. The Sgts mess in the Sarnia Armouries has a display of some notable casings from the unit's history, which includes the last 25-Pdr round that they fired.