lenaitch
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So . . . move from a place where the government/economy is trying to end you to one where the environment is.
Canada doesn’t matter to the rest of the world - and it’s our own fault
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I'd take my chances on the environment. It plays fair.
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When looking back at the whole plandemic, i'm not quite sure it's better over there. They seem to have quite a tyrannical government as well.
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My wife is a dual U.S. citizen. She loves the States, but loves Canada too.
Not that one country is better or worse than than the other. Just personal preference. We talked about it when I retired 15 years ago.
I love the Arizona desert in Spring. I can handle the cold. But, do not like the wet.
We avoid toxic religious and political zealots.
I have an EU passport. My mother did the paperwork.
We have no desire to leave the New World for the Old World.
Our forebears looked back with no regrets on the boat coming over.
Again, not that one country is better or worse than than the other. Just personal preference.
Plenty of creepy crawlies in AZ too!
After Trudeau told the banks to freeze accounts......I moved money.
I know many who moved to the US.
The funny part is I bet more Canadians moved to the states because of Trudeau than Americans because of orange man bad.
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There's a stronger, more tangible impetus for moving away from the place where the air hurts your face 6 months a year.
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You too?
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Plus taxes.There's a stronger, more tangible impetus for moving away from the place where the air hurts your face 6 months a year.
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I would like to move eventually. If the right job materializes, I def will.
The problem with Canada is entirely cultural.
Median Income (not average) is low and there is very little growth.
See:
Fraser Institute News Release: Toronto has the lowest level of median employment income amongst the 15 largest metropolitan areas in Canada and the United States
TORONTO, Feb. 15, 2024 (GLOBE NEWSWIRE) -- In a ranking of median employment incomes in the 15 largest metropolitan areas in Canada and the United States, Toronto ranked last, finds a new study released today by the Fraser Institute, an independent, non-partisan Canadian public policy...
Only two Canadian cities compete with US peers for employment income
Canada's urban cities lagging US counterparts for employment income
www.wealthprofessional.ca
The Liberal Party bastions like Québec and Southern Ontario are even worse and you've got substantial portions of the population participating in some sort of Government benefits scheme.
I'd wager a majority of people are net takers of State benefits and will vote for anyone offering "free" benefits.
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For the millionth time... it's Montreal. Not Quebec.
Even then, back in 2015, only two provinces elected substantially fewer Liberals per capita than Quebec: AB and SK.
It's not even Southern Ontario either. It's specifically the GTA+NCR.
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For at least the past 15 years, more people in Ontario vote for the Conservative Party than all 4 western provinces combined. Yet still they lose seats as often as they win.
Rural south western Ontario is /was far more conservative in values, outlook and norms than most of the West. Even the odd Liberal who gets elected is far more Conservative than what we have today. I’m speaking rural, not urban such as London or Kitchener Waterloo, which are both a mess of Marxists, Islamists, and Climate Goons.
I live in a very conservative part of B.C. it is not even close to being as culturally conservative as, for example, Huron Perth. Many people around here demand their government handouts but won’t fully report their income, for example.
Rural south western Ontario is /was far more conservative in values, outlook and norms than most of the West. Even the odd Liberal who gets elected is far more Conservative than what we have today. I’m speaking rural, not urban such as London or Kitchener Waterloo, which are both a mess of Marxists, Islamists, and Climate Goons.
I live in a very conservative part of B.C. it is not even close to being as culturally conservative as, for example, Huron Perth. Many people around here demand their government handouts but won’t fully report their income, for example.
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conservatism is very mucha wide spectrum in canada, even in Alberta, one could argue our provincial parties are verying degrees of conservative influence despite being named liberal or new democrat.
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The Maritimes and Manitoba enter the chat
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Bingo for the Maritimes. Wide swaths of these folks believe, down to the cockles of the hearts, that they are owed something by the GoC and the rest of Canada.
They want everything, but are willing to contribute very little.
For those of you thinking about heading over to Australia...
My sister lived there for a few years, a few years ago (before she got deported because her airline tickets home were dated 1 day after the date they gave her to leave, and as such she got a 5 year ban)
But while there, she was coming home from work one day & cane across a spider that's legs touched all corners of her front door
she actually went to a neighbour's house she had never met and asked if she could stay until someone she lived with got home
So yeah, f*k no...not for me! But having the air hurt my face isn't really for me either *sigh
My sister lived there for a few years, a few years ago (before she got deported because her airline tickets home were dated 1 day after the date they gave her to leave, and as such she got a 5 year ban)
But while there, she was coming home from work one day & cane across a spider that's legs touched all corners of her front door
she actually went to a neighbour's house she had never met and asked if she could stay until someone she lived with got homeSo yeah, f*k no...not for me! But having the air hurt my face isn't really for me either *sigh
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A view from the UK on the vapidness of "Soft Power"
thecritic.co.uk
The fallacy of soft power | Patrick Porter | The Critic Magazine
The world runs on cold national self interest…
Personally - I'm currently in the application process (Reserves) as a Permanent Resident - I don't think service needs to necessarily confer citizenship.
It's not why I'm applying, anyway. I want an interesting job where I can learn new skills and, yes, pay something back to my new country. I don't feel that Canada owes me anything - but I do think that I owe Canada something for the opportunity to live here.
I will likely apply for citizenship down the road anyway, but if service gave citizenship I don't think it would have made me any more or less likely to apply.
Would be great if the waiting times weren't quite so long, mind...
I would say yes and yes.
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Recruiting process was already lengthy for citizens, I imagine it gets considerably longer when you have to run security checks on PRs and their foreign past.
It does indeed...
To be fair, it is understandable and they should do very thorough checks, so no fault, no foul - but I've been given an estimate of as much as a possible 2 year wait. I'll still be here for that, if I have to, because I really want to do it, but I would imagine a large percentage of folks probably end up fading out of the process if years go by.
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