CAN-USA 2025 Tariff Strife (split from various pol threads)

[Kirkhill]

Meanwhile, on the left coast.

Enbridge’s certificate expires for planned pipeline as B.C. strives for LNG exports to Asia

Project has become the latest example of fizzled plans in Canada to reduce reliance on transporting natural gas through pipelines into U.S. markets

www.theglobeandmail.com

I wonder if Eby is amenable to re-writing some regulations.

 

[Fishbone Jones]

https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/nova-scotia/interprovincial-trade-barriers-rules-regulations-standards-1.7451128

A month seems ambitious. But I like Anand so we’ll see what she can pull off. Hopefully she can capitalize on the momentum she mentions and the fact that we will be in another tariff tiff in month or so.

I'd like to see her pull it off, I really do, even if a liberal does it. However, with Quebec in the mix, I don't think it's going to happen. It'll take them 30 days to draw up their list of demands.

Of course, we'd also have to recall Parliament. Which Carney doesn't want just yet.

 

[brihard]

Of course, we'd also have to recall Parliament.

Why? Interprovincial barriers are generally provincial regulations, not federal statutes.

 

[Fishbone Jones]

Provincial jurisdiction is something the feds are ignoring more and more. I get your point, but do you seriously think they won't involve themselves? After all it's the feds (Anand) saying it can be done in 30 days.

"Every minister at the table felt the need, as do I, as does our government, to act collectively, to seize the moment and to do whatever we can to reduce those barriers to trade.

"The momentum is palpable. The moment is here and we are seizing the moment."

Doesn't sound like the feds are going to be hands off does it?

 

[RangerRay]

Why wasn't this done before?

Because there wasn’t a perceived existential threat to our economy before? In the before times, it was considered a “nice to have but not at the expense of x sector in my province”.

An existential threat tends to focus the mind, IMHO.

 

[Good2Golf]

An acknowledged existential threat tends to focus the mind, IMHO.

For alignment with Canada’s position on non-US threats.

 

[daftandbarmy]

Ms. Anand... tear down these walls....

Anand suggests Canada's interprovincial barriers could crumble within a month​

Provinces and Ottawa have been talking for decades about removing internal trade barriers​

https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/nova-scotia/interprovincial-trade-barriers-rules-regulations-standards-1.7451128

 

[Brad Sallows]

Because there wasn’t a perceived existential threat to our economy before? In the before times, it was considered a “nice to have but not at the expense of x sector in my province”.

An existential threat tends to focus the mind, IMHO.

As I've written before, established interests will tend to hold onto whatever they have and offer to sacrifice outside interests in answer to any change in the situation. The longer the tariff threat drags out without provinces actually changing their rules, the more certain we can be that they are determined to make others pay the costs of recession mitigation all the while beating the "unity" drum. The smart play is to refuse to grant them what they ask for until they start making unilateral changes which demonstrate commitment and sincerity, in ways which will not easily be reverted when the crisis of the day ends.

 

[brihard]

Provincial jurisdiction is something the feds are ignoring more and more. I get your point, but do you seriously think they won't involve themselves? After all it's the feds (Anand) saying it can be done in 30 days.

"Every minister at the table felt the need, as do I, as does our government, to act collectively, to seize the moment and to do whatever we can to reduce those barriers to trade.

"The momentum is palpable. The moment is here and we are seizing the moment."

Doesn't sound like the feds are going to be hands off does it?

You’re moving the goalposts. You said they’d need to recall Parliament; I simply pointed why that’s not the case. Harmonizing things like the standards applicable to the filling of an infant car seat or the max axle weight on a provincial highway isn’t something that requires Parliament to weigh in.

 

[quadrapiper]

In the before times, it was considered a “nice to have but not at the expense of x sector in my province”.

Not to mention things like civil service capacity to deal with technical questions that might inform which standard to adopt, whether one of the existing 10-13 or a compromise version, and ability to identify linked/second- or third-order impacts on things like signage or other regulations.

 

[Kirkhill]

An artist's conception of the proposed LNG floating liquefaction plant planned to be built near Kitimat, B.C. It is one of the 18 projects the provincial government plans to fast track. Photo by Cedar LNG

Amid U.S. tariff threat, B.C. to fast-track 18 mining and energy projects worth $20B

The list includes mining projects criticized by First Nations groups in B.C. and Alaska, and an LNG project opposed by environmentalists

nationalpost.com

Prodigy Clean Energy and its partners hope to produce floating nuclear power stations that, like in this illustration, could dock in remote Arctic communities and supply less emissions-intensive power than the diesel-fired plants they use now.Supplied by Prodigy Clean Energy

Can floating nuclear power plants help solve Northern Canada’s energy woes?

Diesel is the only way to keep the lights on in many remote Arctic towns. A new project wants to offer a greener option – but first it has to assuage safety and cost concerns and compete with renewables

www.theglobeandmail.com

So, if they can contemplate floating SMRs behind berm in ice-infested arctic waters why not float an LNG plant off shore in Hudson's or James Bay? With or without the SMR?

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Extend the shipping season

Double Acting Tanker. The Christophe de Margerie-class ice-breaking LNG carriers are built by DSME (Daewo Shipbuilding Marine Engineering) for the Yamal LNG project. Image courtesy of Dmitrii Lobusov​

Double Acting Tanker Tempera in ice condition 1​

 

[Kirkhill]

And in Quebec ...

Premier calls on Quebecers to fight American trade threat: 'our world is changing'

Quebec Premier François Legault asked his population to "fight" against the threats of American tariffs.

nationalpost.com

Quebec open to LNG, oil projects after Trump threats

Quebec has long resisted proposals to build new oil and gas pipelines, but Donald Trump's threats might change that. Find out more.

financialpost.com

Next thing you know people will be rediscovering John A. MacDonald's National Policy and Medicine Line.