Cadets in Maroon Berets??

[p_imbeault]

#2716 Mayerthorpe AB, changed affiliation late 90's/early 00's to the Strats.

 

[George Wallace]

used to be part of that cadet corps, the affiliated unit (3 RCR) has a para coy (Novmeber coy??) and being the only corps in Canada to be disbanned along with the Airborne (the old unit affiliation).  Therefore keeping the maroon beret is odd, but there is a corps in Edmonton to I believe that where it too.

Friggin 'orrible!  The statements aren't even accurate; once you decipher what this person is trying to say.

 

[McG]

This may be of interest to some of the posters on this thread:  http://www.armycadethistory.com/shoulder_titles.htm

Note the date of the Airborne Cadet Corp shoulder title is 1979.  I would suspect that they had been wearing the maroon beret at least that long.

Here they are in 1983:  http://www.armycadethistory.com/Cadet%20Corps%20DB/CC2642/db_cc_2642_1983.htm
(Wearing Maroon)

 

[Greymatters]

Friggin 'orrible!  The statements aren't even accurate; once you decipher what this person is trying to say. 

Maybe too much wine, but thats hilarious... :rofl:

 

[IntlBr]

http://www.armycadethistory.com/Cadet%20Corps%20DB/CC2551/db_cc_2551_1980.htm

Check the "clipped" wings on these folks.  Interesting!

 

[rwgill]

http://www.armycadethistory.com/Cadet%20Corps%20DB/CC2551/db_cc_2551_1980.htm

Check the "clipped" wings on these folks.  Interesting!

Clipped wings were around for quite some time, and occassionally they seem to pop their ugly heads out again.

In many cases, they stood for X number of jumps from the mock tower.  The wings were as much symbolism as they were merit.  They symbolized that the cadet unit was participating in affiliated unit training.  In any case, these clipped wings were never truly authorized.

There is another varient of wing out there as well.  It was authorized.

There seems to be some confusion as to why exactly they were issued.  They were issued for sport parachuting and they were also issued for a Cadet Para Rescue Course, which was short lived.

 

[armyvern]

http://www.armycadethistory.com/Cadet%20Corps%20DB/CC2551/db_cc_2551_1980.htm

Check the "clipped" wings on these folks.  Interesting!

Actually,

Check your link and scroll down to the 1969 pics. Note the two cadets standing in front of the aircraft.

Cadet CWO Mann ... and Cadet Sergeant Buxton.

Something tells me that Cadet Sgt Buxton (who placed second that year in the province on his Master Cadet Examinations) may be Pat Buxton (went on to serve with 3 PPCLI??) the son of RSM Dick Buxton who has that DZ in Namao named in his memory.

DZ Buxton

Another pic

Yep, interesting indeed. Wow, how small the world is. 

 

[MP 811]

I thought DX Buxton was in Edmonton?  When I was on my basic para at CABC in Edmonton, I was sure the dz we dropped on was DZ Buxton.

 

[armyvern]

I thought DX Buxton was in Edmonton?  When I was on my basic para at CABC in Edmonton, I was sure the dz we dropped on was DZ Buxton.

You are correct; I am not.  ;D

 

[riggermade]

Lancaster Park used to be referred to as Namao as well

 

[Roy Harding]

http://www.abheritage.ca/aviation/history/military_namao.html

Let's get back on track, folks (Cadets - Maroon Berets)


Roy

 

[MP 811]

hmmm....see, I learned something new today too!.....guess we were both right ArmyVern.

And the question's been answered I guess, so to speak.  I had never seen cadets wearing maroon berets and found out that it does happen.  End story.

 

[Signalman150]

Okay, I feel a little funny replying to this one.

There are a few replies on this thread regarding the shoulder patch worn by the Yellowknife Army Cdt Corps.  Let's begin with a couple of corrections; the corps number in 2837.  At the time the shoulder patch was designed, (1988) the Corps' affiliation was the CFPMD (Parachute Maint Depot) which was still in Edmonton.  There was no affiliation in any way, shape or form to either the PPCLI or the Airborne Regiment.  In those days, things such as unit badges were tolerated "Up North", and were even--to a certain degree--encouraged.

Now, on to the symbolism of the badge in the pictures. 

The knife--for it is indeed a knife--is patterned after similar knives used by the Dene hunters in the area.  And, wouldn't you just know it, the darn thing's YELLOW.  Hmmm, It's a knife and it's....yellow. Yellow knife....yellowknife.....hey: YELLOWKNIFE! As poetic and symbolic as it may seem, it is not the sword of Damocles, just a Native hunter's knife, rendered to evoke the name of the city.

The red flames behind the knife are, in actual fact, a red sunburst, meant to indicate the NWT, or the LAND OF THE MIDNIGHT SUN, (with apologies to Robert Service).

The wings were intended to represent the Corps' affiliation with the CFPMD. The CFPMD soldiers did indeed wear the maroon beret, and were (and presumably still are) considered a part of the airborne community with the CF.  For that reason, the cadet corp wore the headress of its affiliated unit.

The badge was carefully designed to make sure there could be no mistaking it for the badge of the SSF, (or--spare me--the SAS), hence the colours, the knife (vice a sword), and a scroll with the words 2837--CADET.

So, no; the cadets were not a bunch of SSF/SAS/Special Forces wannabes. They wanted a military style crest for their Corps that would portray their city, their territory and their affiliated unit.  I hope they took pride in it, and recognized the significance of each of the devices on the crest.  Why would I care? And why would I know what the impetus was behind it's design?

Simple; I designed it, back in 1988 while I was a civ instructor with the unit.

 

[Michael OLeary]

Signalman150, thank you for that explanation.  Sometimes people fail to realize that their own interpretation of a symbol is not always applicable, and their umbrage may be misplaced.  Sometimes a cigar is just a cigar, and maroon is just the colour of a hat.

Thank you.

 

[IntlBr]

http://www.armycadethistory.com/Banff%20photos/Banff_1970_Officer_staff.htm

Just found this on the Army Cadet History site.  Check out the CSoC Officer, Captain, middle left, wearing a "half wing".  I didn't know this same para-wing was worn by CSoC officers as well.

 

[D. Nicholson]

Back to a topic from page 1 - 2551, via the League at least, is still affiliated to the Airborne.

 

[MCpl. Burwell]

hey i was just wondering if there was ever a cadet corp for the Canadian airborne regiment. and did it get disbanded with the regiment its self (which i think was a stupid move on the liberals part. but than again what isn't)?

I have seen PPCLI cadets wearing maroon berets so I am guessing there is an affiliation there with edmonton CAC

 

[medaid]

I have seen PPCLI cadets wearing maroon berets so I am guessing there is an affiliation there with edmonton CAC

Holy necropost batman!

 

[aesop081]

  edmonton CAC

The Edmonton what ?

 

[MCpl. Burwell]

The Edmonton what ?

Sorry, that should read CAR in Edmonton.