Boeing to offer P-8 as CP-140 Replacement

[Weinie]

There was the expectation to "scuff your heels" when you walked. Super-sized the kewl factor!

The scuffing came as a second order effect from the fact they were untied. LMAO.

 

[Eye In The Sky]

The scuffing came as a second order effect from the fact they were untied. LMAO.

I'm glad someone else knows what this was all about! I grew up in Prince County, PEI and after leaving realized...we weren't exactly caught up to...the rest of Canada/the world.

 

[Colin Parkinson]

I bet Boeing wishes they just mothballed the C17 production line, I bet they could easily sell another 10 right about now.

 

[Weinie]

I'm glad someone else knows what this was all about! I grew up in Prince County, PEI and after leaving realized...we weren't exactly caught up to...the rest of Canada/the world.

Amherst, N.S. ,at one time the teenage pregnancy capital of the world ( I suspect that pin-striped jeans and Kodiak work boots were a major contributor to that stat)

 

[Weinie]

I'm glad someone else knows what this was all about! I grew up in Prince County, PEI and after leaving realized...we weren't exactly caught up to...the rest of Canada/the world.

Or maybe they weren't caught up to us.

Anyways, back on track for this thread. I have learned a lot.

 

[CBH99]

But back in the 80s, you were stylin' if you had a rugby shirt, pin stripe jeans and a pair of (untied) Kodiak work boots on. Imagine...at the dance....Billy Jean starts playin'....your time has come. (* collar up on the rugby shirt, of course)

Nervously looking around the room with a panicked look, mixed with sheer cringe…

“Ah yes! The topic! Thank Heavens!”

 

[lenaitch]

They are small airframes, so my initial concern would be endurance and "all up weight"; MPAs need to be able to haul around lots of search and kill stores and fuel for abilty to remain ONSTA (on station).

Our current and near-future torps don't allow for external carriage (temperature concerns). Also, wing/exeternal stores will induce drag, drag reduces ONSTA and speed.

For those main reasons...my initial thought is "Pass". I'd give them a look for maritime surveillance perhaps, but we don't have the $ or personnel for specialized fleets like that. Which is exactly Bombardier is suggesting their platform is good for; " ideal for maritime surveillance". We need more than just that from the fleet.

What do (can) the Cyclones carry?

 

[Eye In The Sky]

What do (can) the Cyclones carry?

The same torps; but, they don't fly at the higher altitudes that Aurora's transit at typically (for ballpark calculations, air temp drops about 2 degrees per 1000 of altitude).

https://twitter.com/x/status/1152594012273954819

 

[SeaKingTacco]

What do (can) the Cyclones carry?

Cyclones carry the same torpedo, but don‘t fly to the scene of action at FL 250, where the temperature outside is -25C. At least.

edit: what EITS, said.

 

[lenaitch]

^ Tnx both. Makes total sense.

 

[Eye In The Sky]

Just to add, this is why I say "and future torps".

Canada to spend $500M on U.S. anti-submarine torpedo

The Canadian government is poised to spend more than half a billion dollars on new anti-submarine torpedoes after the U.S. State Department approved the deal last month.

vancouverisland.ctvnews.ca

 

[dimsum]

Just to add, this is why I say "and future torps".

Canada to spend $500M on U.S. anti-submarine torpedo

The Canadian government is poised to spend more than half a billion dollars on new anti-submarine torpedoes after the U.S. State Department approved the deal last month.

vancouverisland.ctvnews.ca

"Next generation"

Raytheon, the co-developer of the MK-54 alongside the U.S. Navy, began producing the lightweight torpedo in 2004.

 

[SeaKingTacco]

H

"Next generation"

Hey, they are “proven”!

 

[Weinie]

"Next generation"

How about “New to us”

 

[GR66]

"Next generation"

Hey....at least the production date starts with a "2"

 

[dimsum]

Hey....at least the production date starts with a "2"

...for parts of it. I didn't even realize that the Mk-54 is essentially a kit bolted onto a Mk-46.

At roughly $1.2 million apiece, the kits include enhanced guidance systems and improved counter-countermeasures that will convert Canada’s existing arsenal of Cold War-era MK-46 torpedoes into the modern MK-54 configuration.

 

[Eye In The Sky]

"Next generation"

You're just experiencing modern equipment differently!

 

[GK .Dundas]

...for parts of it. I didn't even realize that the Mk-54 is essentially a kit bolted onto a Mk.46 .

Primarily because the USN didn't want to pay the cost of the ultra high tech mk. 50.Which is even more super duper then the mk. 54 at an even more super duper price.

 

[GK .Dundas]

I bet Boeing wishes they just mothballed the C17 production line, I bet they could easily sell another 10 right about now.

50 +

 

[GK .Dundas]

50 +

To be honest the US could probably use the production line reopened.
And I could honestly say the French after their experience in Mali probably wouldn't mind some to supplement their A 400s.