Boeing to offer P-8 as CP-140 Replacement

[Eye In The Sky]

give the globaleye to the coast guard for Arctic patrol and include one station for military. Home base in BG which will keep Quebec happy and patrol westbound to Inuvik, overnight and then the return trip. Shouldn't have a problem staffing a single position and would free up the P8s for the east and west coast and to pursue any observations from the man on the Bombardier without maintaining what would be primarily a fruitless effort in the Arctic

The Arctic piece is better covered with space assets IMO. I’d be more wanting to use a non-torp carrying aircraft differently.

 

[Good2Golf]

give the globaleye to the coast guard for Arctic patrol and include one station for military.

…not sure if you were tracking, but the Coast Guard doesn’t guard costs, it tends buoys and breaks ice.

#misnamedagency

 

[Colin Parkinson]

…not sure if you were tracking, but the Coast Guard doesn’t guard costs, it tends buoys and breaks ice.

#misnamedagency

Well they are pretty good at guarding their costs, sometimes to a fault....

 

[Good2Golf]

…and maybe their coats…especially in the winter.

 

[YZT580]

Well they are pretty good at guarding their costs, sometimes to a fault....

I know that but the same airplane that is looking for pollution or illegal fishing can easily be tasked with looking for shipping; it all depends upon the sensors being employed.

 

[Colin Parkinson]

I know that but the same airplane that is looking for pollution or illegal fishing can easily be tasked with looking for shipping; it all depends upon the sensors being employed.

I was listening to the pollution patrol aircraft flying over the fishing fleet and the pilot said "holy crap they have a whole bunch of big pumps down there, they must be for pumping oil......."
It was the herring fleet and what they were seeing was the big vacuums for sucking the fish out of the skiffs and into the holds.

 

[calculus]

Also posted on the CMMA thread:

Canada explores replacing fleet of Aurora aircraft with Boeing's P-8A Poseidon

OTTAWA (Reuters) -The Canadian government said on Monday it has made a request through the U.S. foreign military sales program to explore the viability of buying 16 Boeing Co P-8A Poseidons to replace its aging fleet of CP-140 Aurora aircraft. Canada submitted a letter of request through the...

ca.finance.yahoo.com

 

[Spencer100]

Also posted on the CMMA thread:

Canada explores replacing fleet of Aurora aircraft with Boeing's P-8A Poseidon

OTTAWA (Reuters) -The Canadian government said on Monday it has made a request through the U.S. foreign military sales program to explore the viability of buying 16 Boeing Co P-8A Poseidons to replace its aging fleet of CP-140 Aurora aircraft. Canada submitted a letter of request through the...

ca.finance.yahoo.com

Are we going to Canadianize them? Add the CAE AN/ASQ-508A Magnetic Anomaly Detector (MAD) like the India.

CAE, Canadian content for the win.

 

[Retired AF Guy]

Its not a done deal until the papers are signed. Todays reporting from Politico:

Another bidder: Bombardier, the Canadian aerospace household name, wants to bid on the contract. The company worries a sole-sourced contract is inevitable. CEO ÉRIC MARTEL has raised hell for months about the program, calling for a competition.

More recently, the feds have appeared to take an interest in Bombardier’s proposal. Martel has met with Defense Minister ANITA ANAND. The company has several meetings on the books with politicians and bureaucrats who claim to want to learn more.

The company received a head’s up from PSPC about Monday’s statement, and received assurances that no deal was done.

But the lingering anxiety remains: Are the assurances legit? Or is the fix in?

Link

 

[KevinB]

Its not a done deal until the papers are signed. Todays reporting from Politico:



Link

I’m sorry Bombardier is years late and doesn’t have a compliant system

 

[Good2Golf]

Bombardier’s energy would be best spent on expanding the RCAF’s capability with some AEW&C capability (think E-11/P-7(ish), not try to fights CANUS/FVEYs ASW pan-alliance P-8 interoperability/capability thing.

 

[KevinB]

Bombardier’s energy would be best spent on expanding the RCAF’s capability with some AEW&C capability (think E-11/P-7(ish), not try to fights CANUS/FVEYs ASW pan-alliance P-8 interoperability/capability thing.

Meanwhile at Bombardier

 

[SeaKingTacco]

Are we going to Canadianize them? Add the CAE AN/ASQ-508A Magnetic Anomaly Detector (MAD) like the India.

CAE, Canadian content for the win.

I am not close to the project, but my sense is that “off the shelf” is again the flavour of the day.

 

[Good2Golf]

They’re in danger of getting scooped by Gulfstream if they keep up with their shenanigans. For goodness sake, they make USAF’s BACN on the Global platform, offer some of that to the RCAF to augment NORAD or something, instead of trying to piss into the wind fighting what is some clear signaling of Canada working to get back on the good books of the 4OTHREYs…

 

[rmc_wannabe]

Bombardier can talk to the MND all they want; if they aren't compliant, they don't have a chance. Anita Anand seems to be building her portfolio on quick wins and successes, not boondoggle kickback bids.

 

[Retired AF Guy]

I’m sorry Bombardier is years late and doesn’t have a compliant system

They don't even have a system; its a fantasy that never got off the drawing boards.

 

[dimsum]

Bombardier can talk to the MND all they want; if they aren't compliant, they don't have a chance. Anita Anand seems to be building her portfolio on quick wins and successes, not boondoggle kickback bids.

Also a "talk" could be this:

Bombardier: MND, we'd like to -
MND: No.

 

[Good2Golf]

Also a "talk" could be this:

Bombardier: MND, we'd like to -
MND: No.

 

[Spencer100]

Its not a done deal until the papers are signed. Todays reporting from Politico:



Link

In the end it's up to the backroom boys and the Trudeau puppeteers.

If the MND can get the purchase past them she will have my respect.

Bombardier is just too much. Told years ago no government money if you do defense work. This is was after the CF18 maintenance contract debacle so they never did much in the defence area.....then missmanage the company so badly that it's just a rump of what it was. They all of a sudden say they deserve defence work now. After causing the problem with Boeing in the first place.

 

[suffolkowner]

Bombardier Goes On Defense For Long-Term Growth | Aviation Week Network

A newly created Defense unit is projected to triple Bombardier’s revenue in the next decade.

aviationweek.com

another look at bombardier.

no to the P6
maybe to a globaleye like platform