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Army Communication & Information Systems Specialists (Sig Op, Lineman and LCIS Amalgamation)

buzgo

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Hmm. I imagine that there are quite a few ISTs out there that predate the ACISS DP2 qual and will have the Sig Op QL5 qual. Maybe this is a way to save some $$.

I suspect that this is far from over, look at how complicated the LCIS payout became.
 

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Looks like they forgot to add the AKwhatever code for ACISS DP2 modernization. Probably easier for all you folks to just submit PLAR docs and get the courses granted.
 

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PuckChaser said:
Looks like they forgot to add the AKwhatever code for ACISS DP2 modernization. Probably easier for all you folks to just submit PLAR docs and get the courses granted.

No that's where I got the AKOH Competency, This does mean though, that I probably won't get back pay till 2011 as promised since I got loaded onto DP2.1D much later despite having a complete PLAR.

 

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Fvcked again.

How is DP2.0 relevant to being a tech?  Its a core course!  But hey, it's only 2.5 years of back pay down the toilet.
 

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Because your DP2.0 is part of your course package that makes you a substantive Cpl much like the old QL5 was the spec pay course.

If you've been a Cpl for 2.5 years and didn't mention to your CoC that you needed that course,  you need to shoulder some blame for not getting that back pay.
 

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Alpheus said:
Fvcked again.

How is DP2.0 relevant to being a tech?  Its a core course!  But hey, it's only 2.5 years of back pay down the toilet.

As Puckchaser mentioned, it's in line with other spec pay that you need the QL5 equivalent to prove you're out of the training stage and actually providing specialist skillsets to the job. As far as I'm aware all spec pay is after DP2.0/QL5.
 

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ringo598 said:
For any IST's interested, CDS order is being corrected, but some very good sources state that the pay/backpay/qual is:

"AKOX AND AKOF AND AKOH"

REF is CDS Directive 046/17, which currently has an OR in there, but its being changed to AND.

Do you have a link to this? I'm not seeing enumerated CDS Directives from the DIN, just a handful of directives to staff officers and the search is not helping.
 

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c_canuk said:
Do you have a link to this? I'm not seeing enumerated CDS Directives from the DIN, just a handful of directives to staff officers and the search is not helping.

Laughably, you may be able to find more information on the ACISS-IST FB group here. It's for IST's only though:

https://www.facebook.com/groups/239432422884449
 

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You can find the updated info here too, the public internet website has been updated with the codes as well:

http://www.forces.gc.ca/en/caf-community-pay/specialist-pay-reg-force-ncm-mosids.page
 

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I found out why I don't have AKOX on my docs, I have AKOY which was the Sgt's Conversion course, as I was 6As qualified at the time.

So my Trg Coord contact says he would assume AKOY being the conversion course for Sgt, it would be a higher level than AKOX which was the MCpl Conversion, should entitle me.

I figure I'll have to PLAR AKOX if the clerks don't see it that way. We shall see.
 

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FYI:  Not sure what most of this means, clerk speak, but from what I gather they've started getting things sorted out.

Date:  31 Jan 2018

Subject: ACISS ACCOUNT CORRECTIONS

DMPAP has commenced the correction to ACISS members pay accounts.  This is to advise units that they should place a PRZ note on ACISS member’s accounts for the foreseeable future.  Members with a 52D note with January 2018 date attached do not require a PRZ note.  These accounts have already been corrected.  There is no current timeline for completion of this project but DMPAP will remove individual PRZ notes as file corrections are completed.  DMPAP will place a 52D note on the account indicating that corrections have been made.
 

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PRZ notes mean you're paid manually instead of letting the system spit out numbers for the 15th and the 30th. I have had one before when my pay was all screwed up after CTing. Looks like they're trying to stop CCPS from compounding any errors already there.
 

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ringo598 said:
FYI:  Not sure what most of this means, clerk speak, but from what I gather they've started getting things sorted out.

Hardly.  Most CSTs have been on manually inputted pay since the spec pay back pay debacle started in March last year.  Didn't stop them from screwing up my end Feb pay, clawed back 7 months of spec pay that I never received, a time period that started AFTER my OT went through.  :facepalm:
 

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Alpheus said:
Oh, and those of us with f**ked up tax situations will receive a modified T4 in the spring to correct the pay balance issue.  I have complete confidence that this will not happen.

Hey look, right again!  I hate it when that happens.  At this rate, I probably won't even be paid mid-month.
 

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I was told by our clerks no new T4, its being paid out this year, so it'll be on this year (2018) T4 that we will get in 2019, so all the backpay will count towards this years income.  Not sure how accurate, but that's what I'm being told at least.
 

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ringo598 said:
I was told by our clerks no new T4, its being paid out this year, so it'll be on this year (2018) T4 that we will get in 2019, so all the backpay will count towards this years income.  Not sure how accurate, but that's what I'm being told at least.

That is the situation for ISTs I think, since they didn't have the backpay balance appear in on their pay account in March last year.

Most, if not all CSTs had the back pay appear on their pay balance in March last year, Revenue Canada thinks they were paid it in 2017.  My 2017 T4 has me earning 107K, that sure as heck did not happen.  My clerks are tracking and working to get an amended one.  And by working, I mean messaging Ottawa about it, since they don't have any control over my pay.

Also, my end Feb pay is also incorrect, to go along with the end Jan screw-up.  I'm seeing a trend here....
 

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Alpheus said:
That is the situation for ISTs I think, since they didn't have the backpay balance appear in on their pay account in March last year.

Most, if not all CSTs had the back pay appear on their pay balance in March last year, Revenue Canada thinks they were paid it in 2017.  My 2017 T4 has me earning 107K, that sure as heck did not happen.

Yeah, this is my issue.

With the "unforeseen" change of what qualifies CST for spec pay (AKOR+AKOX?, 2.0+2.1 CST) I owe back ~6 months of spec. If they don't get that figured out before the end of feb I will not receive an updated T4, so I will be paying taxes on the money in the higher bracket that I did not earn, and have the clawed back money taken off my 2018 T4, and get a tax return at a lower rate, thus I would loose money.
 

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Chad.wiseman said:
Wondering how long the trade training is for a reaervist in acis?  Thanks.

Roughly 2 months for your DP 1.0
You should have your drive wheel prior to going on the DP 1.0 which is another month. Your DP 2.0 is 2 weeks (it's a joke). Your 1.1 and 2.1 (linemen) courses are fairly lengthy.
 
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