Army Communication & Information Systems Specialists (Sig Op, Lineman and LCIS Amalgamation)
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tsokman said:
There's 11 pages of information just in this thread. There are people who are in the effected trade's who don't know whats completely going to happen yet, but you want to know before you've even been enrolled? I'm sure you've been told already, but I'll mention it again. Set your mind to "Receive" instead of "Transmit". You'll find its a lot easier to pick up information about the trade you want to join when you're not asking the same questions over and over and over.
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tsokman said:
Then you won't. The amalgamation does not get rid of the primary occupations it only makes them sub-occupations of one larger trade. I can tell you for certain that you won't climb anything (if they made it a qualification to be an ACCIS then they would lose 20% of candidates on the first day the climbing portion started). As you've already stated you are not interested in it (which the MWOs at the MES brief said would be one factor considered when putting you in your stream) and based on an apparent fear of heights are obviously unsuited for it. Being a danger to yourself and others while working aloft does not a Lineman make.
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tsokman said:
If you are straight, thats not usualy an issue.
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tsokman said:
:-\???????? What an odd thing to say. Seeing as "climbing poles" is only about 2% of the workload and the other 98% has nothing at all to do with them I would suggest that perhaps you don't actually know what a Lineman in the Canadian Forces does. I've spent plenty of my career not climbing poles, in fact I didn't even see a telephone pole today (most likely because I wasn't looking). Go be a gizmo guy if you will, for my part, I will continue to enjoy building your infrastructure.
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Swingline1984 said:
Not entirely correct, a few years in Gagenam brought that "2%" substantially higher, but I digress. At least in Wx, tracks aren't rolling 'back' guys consistantly (with the new poleline) but I suppose the training isn't the same as the cold war standard coupled with the stance on ecology (damn tracks :rage
. It shall be interesting to see the implementation of the amalgamation, I even heard a rumour that the PRes was going to be the lead out (not a very good test bed IMO, due to the irregularity of training value that will need to be monitored after the fact). At least I'll continue with "Once a Lineman, always a Lineman" :warstory:
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Brasidas said:
I'm not sure about the units but isn't 73 the one that was supposed to try the OSG route?(and the CO..... wouldn't that be Comd?) It looks as if there are many changes happening on the militia side of the house.
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From what I hear there are supposed to be many changes, but there are a lot of concerns about how the new trg is going to impact the comm reserve wrt retention. The progression from basic private to qualified tradesman is going to take a lot longer than what it once did, but to be fair, this is only based on conversations I've had with old friends in 72.
Pole line hasn't slowed much here in Gage either. ;D
Pole line hasn't slowed much here in Gage either. ;D
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LineJumper said:
Not to get all "mathy", but over an average 20 yr career where you spend (give or take) 10 yrs as a Jr NCO (worker bee) you would need to spend 4 (40%) of that 10 up a telephone pole to achieve the aforementioned 2%, thus it is hard to believe that you could possibly exceed that and still have working knees especially taking into account tower work, ladders and (for those qualified) the occasional fall out of a plane/helo (not to mention the sub-standard line boots we were issued for years)....but I digress, as this is the part where you roll your eyes :
and throw rocks at my head ;D.Cheers,
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Tsokman, i thought that you would have learned. As i've told you in another post, don't sweat what you haven't got to yet. If you are in St.Jean and have been enroled as an LCIS Tech then don't worry about your QL3, just your POET. If you haven't made it out of the CFRC and have written your CFAT then just concentrate on what you are qualified to proceed with. Other wise just read what is posted and forget about typing, it is just getting you in trouble.
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If you qualify for LCIS on the CFAT an you are enrolled as an LCIS Tech than you just have to pass your courses.. BMQ, SQ, POET and QL3. There are no special tests in the recruiting process for LCIS Tech like there is for other trades ie Pilot, MP, etc.
Are you currently in the recruiting process? If so don't you ask them any questions or just save them all for us?
Are you currently in the recruiting process? If so don't you ask them any questions or just save them all for us?
LineJumper said:
Yes, which was what the initial spiel was about when he addressed us. He asked for questions, and iirc, nearly all of the questions pertained to the amalgamation.
Probably. About the only person I've ever interacted with from 73 Comm GP outside of that discussion is MCpl Barnes.
And I'm pretty damned skeptical about them being thought-through for the reserves. I'm hoping that somebody has a coherent plan for how it's going to work for the reserves, rather than just implement it as some sort of afterthought.
With things not panning out to plan with reg force and their amalgamation timeline, I'd be pleasantly surprised if the reservist school's on top of things, is ready to implement first, and things go relatively smoothly.
If that means the only reservist trade is going to be sig op, so be it. But expecting a reservist lineman to effectively become a 3's-qualified sig op over the course of two 2-month courses before getting any substantial lineman training along the lines of the current trade course series seems pretty ridiculous to me. And that's the impression that I'm getting.
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