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Arctic/Offshore Patrol Ship AOPS

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All pigs are equal but some pigs are more equal than others. ;)

There's a crane and a flat bit on the back. That would be perfect for a big RV or, even better, a couple of double wides.

Have to maintain brand integrity, after all ;)
 

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There's always the back of the pickup truck in the garage....
 

Oldgateboatdriver

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IIRC, they can ship three full size containers on the aft deck, partly under the flight deck. This should mean they can carry six of the 20 foot container accommodation modules that are used onboard the MCDV's. That's six times self-contained six person accommodation units (that's 36 total for you pongos) each with it's own bunks, heads and shower facilities. With the other 20, that can make 56 total: enough for a company of RCR or a platoon of Vandoos ... whatever!
 

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IIRC, they can ship three full size containers on the aft deck, partly under the flight deck. This should mean they can carry six of the 20 foot container accommodation modules that are used onboard the MCDV's. That's six times self-contained six person accommodation units (that's 36 total for you pongos) each with it's own bunks, heads and shower facilities. With the other 20, that can make 56 total: enough for a company of RCR or a platoon of Vandoos ... whatever!
I see what you did there.........hah.

I am a little distressed at your suggestion that infantry needs any cover.
 

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So, with the delays and such, is it safe to say that Irving will start on the first CSC after the 6th and final RCN AOPS is completed and not build at all the 2 CCG AOPS's? In essence, there won't be any 'production gap' that everyone was nattering on about and biting their nails to the quick, oui or non?

Here's a link to the latest Govt Canada site on these 2 ships - note, no project cost or timeline mentioned.
https://www.tpsgc-pwgsc.gc.ca/app-acq/amd-dp/mer-sea/sncn-nss/arctique-coastgd-eng.html
 

Colin Parkinson

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Likely the government will keep those two AOP's in reserve and confirm the contracts if needed to keep things going, but with increased costs for the CSC and possibility of no gap in steel cutting, they may disappear likely to the relief of the CCG who wants more specialised ships.
 

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Likely the government will keep those two AOP's in reserve and confirm the contracts if needed to keep things going, but with increased costs for the CSC and possibility of no gap in steel cutting, they may disappear likely to the relief of the CCG who wants more specialised ships.
I agree, its looking more and more that the CCG will not be operating any version of the AOPS and the CSC will have steel cut in the 2023-2024 time frame.
 

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gravy train for Irving and the design team at CCG regardless. They have the contract in hand for the design work so it will keep their draftspeople going
 

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Steel is cut far in advance of when you would think it was. JSS steal is almost completely cut for ship set one and they are looking to start the CCG ship shortly.
 

Colin Parkinson

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I agree, its looking more and more that the CCG will not be operating any version of the AOPS and the CSC will have steel cut in the 2023-2024 time frame.
We need a replacement for the 500 class, with the stern ramp, but also improved towing capacity. the AOP's is to big and to many features that won't work.
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Steel is cut far in advance of when you would think it was. JSS steal is almost completely cut for ship set one and they are looking to start the CCG ship shortly.
Great point; the production gap they are talking about is really at the module assembly level and up. The steel cutting is really cool to see, but basically it gets loaded on a conveyor and rolls through, with only a few people involved. After that it spools up and gets spread around to all kinds of workstations for the fitup and welding. Once the steel is cut the bits can get bundled up into work packages and chucked in storage so it doesn't become a choke point. There is a balance between doing it far enough ahead so it doesn't hurt production, and the storage/additional prep costs.

Wild to see though; it's a huge plasma cutter with an ink jet head, so the whole sheet will get marked up, cut to size, and parts labeled with minimal wastage.
 

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yes I saw that setup at Seaspan, impressive how little wastage there is in modern shipbuilding.
Watching it go from cut steel, through forming, made into modules, blocks then megablocks is pretty impressive. There is a more wastage on the first build, but once they dial everything in there is very little trimming left before they line up these huge steel assemblies to tight enough tolerances where the pipe flanges line up and all the weld points line up. The 3D surveying across each stage is nuts.
 

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Watching it go from cut steel, through forming, made into modules, blocks then megablocks is pretty impressive. There is a more wastage on the first build, but once they dial everything in there is very little trimming left before they line up these huge steel assemblies to tight enough tolerances where the pipe flanges line up and all the weld points line up. The 3D surveying across each stage is nuts.
Not sure if you have ever seen the oilfield modules they make out West, it is pretty awesome to see the precision of module built off site. Transported umpteen hundred kms, Then reassembled. It is awesome. Modern design is so amazing.
 

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Likely the government will keep those two AOP's in reserve and confirm the contracts if needed to keep things going, but with increased costs for the CSC and possibility of no gap in steel cutting, they may disappear likely to the relief of the CCG who wants more specialised ships.

Agreed. The sooner the first steel is cut on the CSCs, the better.
 
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