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Direct from the DND web site:

MONTHLYPAY RATE TABLES
Regular Force
OFFICERS
RANK BASIC
1
2
3
4
5
6
7
8
9
10
OfficerCadet 
Second-Lieutenant 
Seeapplicable plan below
Lieutenant 
     
Captain 46414819499351705340550656705839593660346135
Major 62756386649566046713682169297037

ROTP
RANK BASIC
1
2
3
4
5
6
7
8
9
10
OfficerCadet 1172119712241246
Second-Lieutenant 3359
Lieutenant 34083660390941594406
Captain See tableabove
Major Seetable above

CEOTP
RANK BASIC
1
2
3
4
5
6
7
8
9
10
OfficerCadet 21192206
Second-Lieutenant 26712827
Lieutenant 28273097336836673972
Captain See tableabove
Major Seetable above

DEO
RANK BASIC
1
2
3
4
5
6
7
8
9
10
Second-LieutenantC2873
 D31163359360838564104
 E33593608385641044349
 F3608385641044349
LieutenantC3158340836603909
 D3408366039094159
 E34083660390941594406
 F3660390941594406
Captain See tableabove
Major Seetable above


 
MONTHLYPAY RATE TABLES
Regular Force
PILOTS
RANK BASIC
1
2
3
4
5
6
7
8
9
10
OfficerCadet 
Second-Lieutenant 
Seeapplicable plan below
Lieutenant            
Captain49605184543859426258650366606830692869676995
Major70697140719272487319739374227466

ROTPPILOT
RANK BASIC
1
2
3
4
5
6
7
8
9
10
Second-Lieutenant 3555
Lieutenant 36043980422844794726
Captain See tableabove
Major Seetable above

CFCCEPPILOT
RANK BASIC
1
2
3
4
5
6
7
8
9
10
Second-Lieutenant 28663023
Lieutenant 30233416368739874292
Captain See tableabove
Major Seetable above

DEOPILOT
RANK BASIC
1
2
3
4
5
6
7
8
9
10
Second-LieutenantC3068
 D3311
 E3555
LieutenantC3353372839804228
 D3604398042284479
 E36043980422844794726
Captain See tableabove
Major Seetable above

MONTHLYPAY RATE TABLES

REGULAR FORCE


NON-COMMISSIONEDMEMBERS
Rank 
Stand
Spec1
Spec2
Private
1
2081
  
2
2544
  
3
3057
  
Base
3497
3769
3991
Corporal
1
3548
3836
4071
2
3599
3901
4151
3
3649
3966
4232
4
3698
4033
4312
Base
3643
3913
4137
MasterCorporal
1
3693
3981
4217
2
3742
4049
4296
3
3794
4112
4376
4
3845
4181
4460
Base
4017
4334
4593
Sergeant
1
4057
4374
4636
2
4097
4418
4677
3
4142
4461
4718
4
4181
4499
4760
Base
4476
4693
4872
WarrantOfficer
1
4517
4734
4913
2
4557
4777
4955
3
4602
4819
4999
4
4643
4857
5038
Base
4939
5074
5178
MasterWarrant Officer
1
4988
5124
5228
2
5039
5176
5279
3
5089
5225
5328
4
5138
5276
5376
Base
5482
5482
5482
ChiefWarrant Officer
1
5541
5541
5541
2
5600
5600
5600
3
5657
5657
5657
4
5712
5712
5712
DAILYPAY RATE TABLES
PRIMARY RESERVE
OFFICERS
RANK
TABLE
BASIC
IPC1
IPC2
IPC3
IPC4
IPC5
IPC6
IPC7
IPC8
IPC9
IPC10
Second-Lieutenant
A
79.04
83.66
85.02
92.20
Lieutenant
A
103.78
107.02
110.28
113.26
116.22
Lieutenant
B
123.74
127.14
130.22
135.02
139.90
Captain
A
129.70
134.68
139.54
144.48
149.24
153.88
158.46
163.18
165.88
168.62
171.44
Captain
B
138.62
144.88
151.98
166.06
174.88
181.74
186.12
190.88
193.60
194.70
195.48
Major
A
175.36
178.46
181.50
184.56
187.60
190.62
193.64
196.66
Major
B
197.54
199.54
200.98
202.56
204.54
206.60
207.42
208.64
TableA - General Service Officer
Table B - Pilot


The rates for lessthan 6 hours are 50% of above rates.

DAILYPAY RATE TABLES
PRIMARY RESERVE
NON-COMMISSIONED MEMBERS
  
Stand
Spec1
Spec2
Private
1
66.98
  
2
75.90
  
3
85.44
  
Basic
97.72
105.34
111.54
Corporal
1
99.16
107.20
113.76
2
100.58
109.02
116.00
3
101.98
110.84
118.26
4
103.34
112.70
120.50
Basic
101.80
109.36
115.62
Master
Corporal
1
103.20
111.26
117.84
2
104.58
113.16
120.06
3
106.02
114.92
122.30
4
107.46
116.84
124.64
Basic
112.26
121.12
128.36
Sergeant
1
113.38
122.24
129.56
2
114.50
123.46
130.70
3
115.76
124.66
131.86
4
116.84
125.74
133.02
Basic
125.08
131.16
136.16
Warrant
Officer
1
126.24
132.20
137.30
2
127.36
133.50
138.48
3
128.60
134.68
139.70
4
129.76
135.74
140.80
Basic
138.02
141.80
144.70
Master
Warrant
Officer
1
139.40
143.20
146.10
2
140.82
144.64
147.52
3
142.22
146.02
148.90
4
143.58
147.44
150.24
Basic
153.20
153.20
153.20
Chief
Warrant
Officer
1
154.84
154.84
154.84
2
156.50
156.50
156.50
3
158.10
158.10
158.10
4
159.62
159.62
159.62
Theseare daily rates for more than 6 hours. For 6 hours or less, use half thedaily rate.

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What does these means
           Stand  Spec 1   Spec 2  
Private  1 66.98    
         2 75.90    
         3 85.44    
     Basic 97.72  105.34   111.54
?????
What is STAND and SPEC1 and 2 means
and those 1 2 3 numbers
I guess those are the ranks you get , but how do you get higher rank?


And I have one more question to ask. Me and my friend would like to join army but we would like to be together all the time. Is that possible. We would chose same carrier.

And do you have to pay anything such as book or classes ?


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Stand means "Standard" or the pay that the majority of the CF gets. "Spec" means specialist, which refers to certain trades in which you need extra qualifications. If you‘re joining the reserves as an NCM, don‘t worry about this, it won‘t apply to you. If you and your friend want to join at the same time, then go for it, but do NOT have any expectation of staying together. On most courses, assuming you were even on the same course, they like to split up people as much as possible. That way, you learn to work with people you‘re not friends with... necessarily.

To advance in rank, you need to take courses and have a certain amount of time in each rank. As for books and classes, yes, there are a great many formal classes with books, studying and written tests. The higher up in rank you get, the higher the percentage is of "textbook learning."

Oh, and just a note, not to be offensive, but you may want to seriously consider taking some English classes before joining. From what I‘ve seen of your writing, you might have some problems with the written test to get in, since your first language isn‘t English. Just a suggestion.
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As a basic recruit, what is the actual take home pay at the end of the pay week?

I have seen all the charts and such but I am curious to know what the actual deposit is after room, board, tax are all taken...

Thanks.

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I think it works out to about $600/every two weeks after rations and quarters.

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I just got back from my basic at Shilo and I got paid about 860$ every two weeks that‘s clean already after taxes. I still have to go and get my 16.50$ away from home pay times 58 days. But that‘s the Comm Res School so I don‘t know about reg force but I was being paid about 71.40$ a day.

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kinda related.....

For reg force when you go to basic, how long till the first payday?

Workin out the budget so my wife and I don‘t get caught short...

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It depends on when you start.  Paydays are on the closest working days to the 15th and end of the month. I think it took me about 3 weeks until I got my first pay deposit.

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If you look on the pay scales for a reg force NCM member you see an incentive pay category, for private its 1-3 and from corp and up its basic then 1-4. How long would it usually take a private to move up in the incentive category?
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with each year you‘ve been in, you move up in pay

when you join, your a P1 pay, after you‘ve been in a year, your get P2 pay, etc

once you‘ve been a private for 3 years, theres no more pay raises for time-in, the next big pay raise would be when your promoted to Cpl

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Thanks alot D-N-A.

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The recruiters told me that u would recieve a pay raise after Basic training by going to the next lvl of private for pay.
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when you first join up, your  a Private(Recruit), after your basic training, you become a Private(Trained), theres a bit of a pay increase there

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Originally posted by D-n-A:
[qb] when you first join up, your  a Private(Recruit), after your basic training, you become a Private(Trained), theres a bit of a pay increase there [/qb]
What? Unless I‘m mistaken, you become a private (trained) and get your hook after completing your MOC training. Your pay increase comes once you‘ve been in a year.
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Last I saw, in the reg force you didn‘t get a hook until you‘d had a year after being trained.  The reserves work differently, or at least all the units I worked with and have seen did.
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I‘m going by how it is in the reserve

also, a Private(Trained) doesnt get a hook, a Private(Basic) does though

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Um, so am I

and wtf is a private(basic)?
*recalls rank structure pushups*
private recruit....private trained...corporal...
nope, not there  :)
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When I finished QL3 reserve infantry, I got a hook and a small pay raise.  That was private trained.  My course was combined QL2/3 infantry.  A Private, with just basic training (QL2) doesn‘t get a hook.  I got a raise after my first year.  And again in my second year, and again in my third year as a reservist.  Then I left the reserves for the regular force.

Just a note, they‘ve apparently changed a lot of the qualification names since I did my course.  So who knows what they call basic and trained today.
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When you are a Private Recruit, doing your first phase of training, you are doing your ‘basic‘.  You are still a Private Recruit.  You then move on to your trade training which for me, was reserve infantry.  When I finished that, I was Private trained and got my hook.
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Before anyone puts in thier 2 cents worth:
1. If you have no overseas experience,
2. Have no clue how they determine Risk and Hardship points, and
3. Unless you have something interesting to say how they will implment it,

Then just sum up before you start...

You may not think it is, but this article is a true morale killer for those of us still in Bosnia on this "not dangerous" mission. Quote from below:
"While service in places such as Afghanistan qualify as high risk, Bosnia does not." unquote. Its not like they don't already rake it in on the higher benifits for risk and hardship.

 http://www.canada.com/national/features/budget_2004/story.html?id=499525bb-8d55-4bff-b9a7-8dfbfa330b2d


Budget gives tax break to soldiers, police on high-risk missions
   
John Ward
Canadian Press
March 23, 2004

OTTAWA -- Troops and police sent abroad on high-risk operations will not pay taxes on the money they earn while deployed, under a new break announced in Tuesday's budget.

It was a largely symbolic gesture in a document which offered the beleaguered military some extra money for peacekeeping bills and promises of some future cash for new search-and-rescue planes.

Any big budget jump, which many say is needed to keep the Forces afloat and replace their rusting equipment, will depend on the outcome of a policy review expected to be completed by the end of the year.

The tax break, which is retroactive to Jan. 1 this year, will save soldiers and police officers about $30 million a year. It comes on top of existing tax-free bonuses for hazardous duty areas.

Salaries up to $6,000 a month are covered. That's the maximum earned by a chief warrant officer, the highest non-commissioned rank. Junior officers up to the rank of captain will get the full benefit, while more senior officers will have to pay taxes on that portion of their pay that exceeds the $6,000 limit.

Not all troops abroad will qualify. While service in places such as Afghanistan qualify as high risk, Bosnia does not. There are about 1,800 Canadians in Afghanistan and about 900 in Bosnia. The mission in Haiti, with about 450 soldiers, has yet to be classified in the military's four-level risk assessment system.

The budget also allotted $300 million to cover extra costs of the peace missions in Afghanistan and Haiti and pledged to cover all such incremental costs in future missions. Under the old policy, the military never knew how much extra money it might get to cover unexpected deployments.

There was another $300 million promised for next year to speed up the purchase of new search-and-rescue aircraft. The air force uses aging Buffalo and some Hercules transports in the role and had hoped to replace them with a dedicated, twin-engine search-and-rescue plane around 2010 or so.

Now, the replacements will start arriving within 18 months, Finance Minister Ralph Goodale said.

In a gesture to history, the budget also provided $1.5 million to help the Juno Beach Centre in Normandy commemorate the 60th anniversary of the D-Day landings during the Second World War. Juno was the code name for the Canadian landing site during the invasion.

With this "incentive", I personally will hesitate voluntering for those less "risky" missions. I am interested to see how it all plays out...

As for the rest...just another popcorn fart.

Have fun...   :cdn:
« Last Edit: October 24, 2004, 05:44:38 by Bruce Monkhouse »
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I think personally that whenever we are deployed on any UN/NATO mission we should not have had to pay income tax at all. I am surprised that Bosnia does not qualify.
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I think it is somewhat flawed but sure I‘ll take the tax break.Bosnia is not a dangerous place hasn‘t been for a few years now,I know that some of you that were just there were bitching about the "roto that the world forgot" and other nonsense,but face it nothing is happening there!Bosnia is on par with tours such as the Golan Heights,Cyprus (when we had a large contingent)no direct threat to CF personel.
 Bosnia should have been shut down a few years ago,it‘s over and done with.

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I agree bosnia is not like ity used to be . try it early 90‘s. try haveing the "WARRING FACTIONS"
fire their rounds right through your OP area. which means haveing intresting holes in your flag.
Jeez the worst thing about Bosnia now is when your iso trailer heats up or you sunburnyourself on r and r .   :cam:
I'm not saying to kill all the stupid people . .. Just remove the warning labels and let nature run it's course

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I was just wondering, where are there Canadian soldiers in the world other than Bosnia and the Middle East?
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Check on DND.ca under current operations. A total of just under 3800 people...It will be interesting to see which they class as "high-risk". Unfortunately the DGPB site which says what the risk and hardship for each AOR is not avail...

 http://www.forces.gc.ca/site/operations/current_ops_e.asp
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