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Turkey and the S400 SAM
« on: July 12, 2019, 08:42:04 »
Well Turkey has accepted delivery of its new S400 system from Russia. Look for its F=35 order to get canceled. They arent our friend anymore.

https://www.foxnews.com/world/russian-s-400-defense-systems-arrive-in-turkey-after-u-s-warns-of-sanctions
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Re: Turkey and the S400 SAM
« Reply #1 on: July 12, 2019, 09:10:57 »
Why on earth would the US want to include Turkey with the F35 program anyways?
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Re: Turkey and the S400 SAM
« Reply #2 on: July 12, 2019, 10:34:26 »
Why on earth would the US want to include Turkey with the F35 program anyways?
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Re: Turkey and the S400 SAM
« Reply #3 on: July 12, 2019, 17:41:39 »
BBC view. F35deal had Turkey building some of the parts. Now we want to prevent Turkey giving away the stor to the Russians.

https://ichef.bbci.co.uk/news/624/cpsprodpb/6213/production/_86970152_s400_vehicles_624in.png

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Re: Turkey and the S400 SAM
« Reply #4 on: July 13, 2019, 00:46:54 »

The F35 is supposed to be the world's premier strike aircraft, so I don't get the concern about the S400.  The Russians have no doubt been collecting on the F35 since it started flying (presumably from Syria whenever the Israelis fly theirs), so why is the S400 in particular such a "bogeyman" for the F35 programme?

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Re: Turkey and the S400 SAM
« Reply #5 on: July 13, 2019, 09:24:42 »
NATO ally?  On the org chart, anyway ...

I'm no political science major but I feel like the US and NATO should have the foresight to realize Turkey isn't  that trustworthy of an ally.
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Re: Turkey and the S400 SAM
« Reply #6 on: July 13, 2019, 10:16:47 »
I'm no political science major but I feel like the US and NATO should have the foresight to realize Turkey isn't  that trustworthy of an ally.

Some would say, “better the Devil you know...”

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Re: Turkey and the S400 SAM
« Reply #7 on: July 13, 2019, 13:06:41 »
I'm no political science major but I feel like the US and NATO should have the foresight to realize Turkey isn't  that trustworthy of an ally.
You'd think that, but "greater minds than ours", right?  #AllegedAlly
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Re: Turkey and the S400 SAM
« Reply #8 on: July 14, 2019, 11:06:36 »
The F35 is supposed to be the world's premier strike aircraft, so I don't get the concern about the S400.  The Russians have no doubt been collecting on the F35 since it started flying (presumably from Syria whenever the Israelis fly theirs), so why is the S400 in particular such a "bogeyman" for the F35 programme?

Because Turkey can now test the F35 against Russia's newest missile threat directly. I assume those test results aren't going to stay secured and locked up deep within a military base in Turkey.

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Re: Turkey and the S400 SAM
« Reply #9 on: July 14, 2019, 15:29:00 »
I wonder what use a $400 SAM really is? I would have waited for Prime Day and got it a lot cheaper on Amazon.
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Re: Turkey and the S400 SAM
« Reply #10 on: July 14, 2019, 16:34:32 »
Because Turkey can now test the F35 against Russia's newest missile threat directly. I assume those test results aren't going to stay secured and locked up deep within a military base in Turkey.

I wonder just how deep in Russia's pocket Turkey is for the Russians not to worry that turkey would sell Russia out and give the S400 to say the US military to analyze. Then again the Russians are suppose to be deploying the S500 within the next 5 years so maybe they aren't as worried.
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Re: Turkey and the S400 SAM
« Reply #11 on: July 15, 2019, 07:08:48 »
I wonder just how deep in Russia's pocket Turkey is for the Russians not to worry that turkey would sell Russia out and give the S400 to say the US military to analyze.
If public opinion is any indicator, the Turks appear to be no great fans of NATO (source) ...
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