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New Air Force epaulets
« on: September 04, 2015, 06:47:19 »
So i've been out of country for a good 4 years now and just saw a picture of this epaulet.  Is this the newest version of us reinventing the wheel?

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Re: New Air Force epaulets
« Reply #1 on: September 04, 2015, 07:17:05 »
That's the improved CADPAT shirt, worn by Army and Air Force, so the rank insignia is now hook and loop fastener (since we can't say Velcro).
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Re: New Air Force epaulets
« Reply #2 on: September 05, 2015, 17:27:50 »
That's the improved CADPAT shirt, worn by Army and Air Force, so the rank insignia is now hook and loop fastener (since we can't say Velcro).
That's good,  I hate Velcro. God,  I hope I can get at least a few more years out of the shirts I have. I really,  really don't like these uniforms.

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Re: New Air Force epaulets
« Reply #3 on: September 05, 2015, 19:44:58 »
So i've been out of country for a good 4 years now and just saw a picture of this epaulet.  Is this the newest version of us reinventing the wheel?

Maybe I'm old, but that looks fookin' ridiculous to me.
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Re: New Air Force epaulets
« Reply #4 on: September 05, 2015, 19:57:39 »
Maybe I'm old, but that looks fookin' ridiculous to me.
You're right, they should have pearl grey in there somewhere, I almost had no idea that person was in the RCAF.

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Re: New Air Force epaulets
« Reply #5 on: September 05, 2015, 20:06:28 »
That person may be in the RCN, CA, CJOC, or any of the other functional commands and empires.

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Re: New Air Force epaulets
« Reply #6 on: September 05, 2015, 21:34:20 »
That person may be in the RCN, CA, CJOC, or any of the other functional commands and empires.

Still doesn't change the look of the shingle. Kinda looks like the patches my mother used to iron on my pants.
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Re: New Air Force epaulets
« Reply #7 on: September 07, 2015, 01:31:04 »
Thanks guys.......I don't get to wear capdat much these days and I agree...this looks awful, so I think I'll stick with the old epaulets until I'm forced into the new ones.  I just received all the new silver coloured ranks for my DEU as well......what a joy it will be to explain to a local tailor the exact measurements for putting these on!

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Re: New Air Force epaulets
« Reply #8 on: September 07, 2015, 11:53:29 »
Anyone know if the CADPAT and flight suit ranks are changing to the new DEU style as well? Or will operational dress stick with the dark blue embroidery?
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Re: New Air Force epaulets
« Reply #9 on: September 07, 2015, 12:12:16 »
I am certain that some gainfully-underemployed twit with a budget is considering it.

As for the velcro patches, they simplify the uniform and therefore reduce production cost. That is good.

Midnight field promotions in Number 3 Trench might be a little more risky, though.

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Re: New Air Force epaulets
« Reply #10 on: September 07, 2015, 22:05:13 »
My question about the new rank patches is it easy to rip off? If it is, any cost savings would likely be lost to having to constantly replace them.

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Re: New Air Force epaulets
« Reply #11 on: September 07, 2015, 22:06:25 »
My question about the new rank patches is it easy to rip off? If it is, any cost savings would likely be lost to having to constantly replace them.

I find the flags curl at the edges, the ranks are on the center of the chest and less likely to be torn off.

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Re: New Air Force epaulets
« Reply #12 on: December 04, 2015, 05:50:07 »
I find the flags curl at the edges, the ranks are on the center of the chest and less likely to be torn off.

...wait for it - next thing you know, patches will also have to be sewn in as well, like the slip-ons on flying suits.   >:D
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Re: New Air Force epaulets
« Reply #13 on: December 04, 2015, 07:56:54 »
slip ons don't need to be sewn on flight suits.....

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Re: New Air Force epaulets
« Reply #14 on: December 04, 2015, 09:57:03 »
slip ons don't need to be sewn on flight suits.....
Apparently you don't live in the same airforce as the rest of us.
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Re: New Air Force epaulets
« Reply #15 on: December 04, 2015, 10:12:42 »
In my 21st year in fact, flying operationally since 2002...and have never had them sewn on, nor have been ordered to.


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Re: New Air Force epaulets
« Reply #16 on: December 04, 2015, 10:37:13 »
In my 21st year in fact, flying operationally since 2002...and have never had them sewn on, nor have been ordered to.

It's pretty much stated in every Wings Flying Orders.

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Re: New Air Force epaulets
« Reply #17 on: December 04, 2015, 10:52:12 »
"Pretty much" being the operative word(s).

No such order exists for our flyers.  Also discouraged by those who run the SERE courses as it makes santizing of clothing difficult.

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Re: New Air Force epaulets
« Reply #18 on: December 04, 2015, 15:06:08 »
As per the Geneva Convention, you have to give your captor your Rank and Service ID (giving away your nationality) when requested.  Sanitizing epaulets doesn't do anything for you.

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Re: New Air Force epaulets
« Reply #19 on: December 04, 2015, 15:27:14 »
Did I have my slip-ons turned into sewn-ons?

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Re: New Air Force epaulets
« Reply #20 on: December 04, 2015, 18:34:39 »
As per the Geneva Convention, you have to give your captor your Rank and Service ID (giving away your nationality) when requested.  Sanitizing epaulets doesn't do anything for you.

Geneva convention applies certain rules depending on your status once captured as per the theatre specific SPINS and EPA (PW vs hostage vs other...).
Your status also dictates what information you divulge and what types of questions you answer.

Regardless....latest iterations of ASERE had everyone sanitize clothing, including cutting off sewn-on ranks and Canadian flags.

Make of that what you wish.


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Re: New Air Force epaulets
« Reply #21 on: December 04, 2015, 21:24:22 »
Anyone who has to 'cut off their flag' wasn't adhereing to the Div Dress Orders!!   :clubinhand:  Velcro is a must!!!!   :tsktsk:   

I'd say Geneva Convention 'always' applies.  I'm not aware of a time I can say "ya screw that stuff"!  The enemy is not bound to it but as a  :cdn: I am.  Always.

It's always *BIG 7* which includes all the info on your slip-on anyways.   :subbies:
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New RCAF slip ons?
« Reply #22 on: April 05, 2016, 19:38:58 »
So, I just saw pictures of the new demo F18, and the demo pilot looks like he's wearing a prototype slip on. Green with the new style stripes it looks like. Has anyone heard anything about this?


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Re: New RCAF slip ons?
« Reply #23 on: April 05, 2016, 19:55:00 »
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Re: New RCAF slip ons?
« Reply #24 on: April 05, 2016, 19:58:58 »
So, I just saw pictures of the new demo F18, and the demo pilot looks like he's wearing a prototype slip on. Green with the new style stripes it looks like. Has anyone heard anything about this?



The "new" slip-ons where announced in Dec 2014....so not that new....

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