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I had a helicopter when I was there.

And conscripts chopping wood into bite-sized morsels to feed the stoves in the Norgie tents at night.

I was there in fall 92. I remember the rain and the mud. We burnt everything we could find in those stoves to keep the tents somewhat dry.

Beautiful country between Bardufoss and Skeboten...
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Radio Chatter / Re: Armyrick's Land Healing Farm...
« Last post by SeaKingTacco on Today at 01:22:22 »
Good stuff, Rick! Keep it coming!
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Global Politics / Re: Discussing Politics
« Last post by mariomike on Today at 01:07:32 »
Saw this in Canadian Politics. Perhaps Global Politics is a better forum to reply.

, America is great again

If MAGA has been such a success, why did Democrats make a net gain of 41 seats in the United States House of Representatives in the mid-term election? The election was widely characterized as a "blue wave".
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Recruiting / Re: Int O Competition
« Last post by winds_13 on Today at 00:40:25 »
itsrobin, yes the trade is hyper competitive due to only few spots and no shortage of applicants. As such, unless you meet the competitive cut-offs for both the CFAT and GPA, your application won't even be considered.

Why is it that you want Intelligence Officer specifically though?
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For some background to any discussion, link to the Federal Court decision.

https://decisions.fct-cf.gc.ca/fc-cf/decisions/en/item/423806/index.do

I haven't have an opportunity to completely read through it, but I did note the following in the introduction. (Makivik is the organization that applied for this judicial review.)

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[5]   Makivik submits that this case really is not about polar bears, nor is it about the duty to consult. It submits that this case is about the implementation of Inuit treaty rights under NILCA. Makivik also claims that the Minister’s October 19, 2016 decision was neither correct nor reasonable. It does not seek to quash the Minister’s decision. Rather, Makivik seeks several declarations concerning the Minister’s decision.
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I don't know how this will end...

https://www.msn.com/en-ca/news/canada/federal-court-sides-with-ottawa-in-decision-to-reduce-nunavik-polar-bear-hunt/ar-BBX0AMk?ocid=spartandhp

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OTTAWA — A Federal Court judge has sided with Environment Minister Catherine McKenna in a decision she made to reduce the number of polar bears that Nunavik Inuit can hunt, despite claims that she failed to consider traditional knowledge about the health of the bear population.
The decision was the culmination of a years-long process, the first of its kind under a modern treaty signed by the Nunavik Inuit and the federal government in 2006, meant to balance Inuit knowledge with scientific evidence.
The case highlights an ongoing source of tension between Inuit hunters and researchers when it comes to   polar bear populations. Several Inuit communities have reported an increased number of bear encounters and attacks in recent years, prompting calls to increase hunting quotas. Scientists, however, insist that populations are on the decline, and that the larger number of sightings is because bears are spending more time on land as sea ice dwindles.
The Makivik Corporation, the legal representative of the Nunavik Inuit, launched a legal challenge in 2016 of McKenna’s decision, which concerned the Southern Hudson Bay polar bear population. Scientific evidence suggests the population is very likely declining, but an affidavit filed in this case states that, “By and large, Nunavik residents have observed an increase in the polar bear population, and a particularly notable increase since the 1980s.”
The history of the case dates back to 2010, when there was a sudden spike in polar bear hunting in Nunavik, a vast area comprising the northern third of Quebec. For several years prior, the Nunavik Inuit had hunted up to 11 polar bears each year. But in 2010, that number jumped to 36, and then to 74 bears in 2011, sparking concerns about the sustainability of the hunt. A voluntary agreement reached in the fall of 2011 limited the Nunavik Inuit to 26 bears. There had never before been a limit on the hunt.
In 2012, then-Conservative environment minister Peter Kent wrote to the Nunavik Marine Region Wildlife Board, a co-management board made up of members appointed by Makivik and representatives of the federal and Nunavut governments, asking it to establish a formal quota. The board is responsible for wildlife management in the region, and is supposed to weigh western science and traditional knowledge. It was created under the Nunavik Inuit Land Claim Agreement (NILCA), a modern treaty signed in 2006.
The resulting process took several years, as the board waited for the results of an aerial survey of the bear population, conducted public hearings, and prepared a study of Inuit traditional knowledge. In July 2015, the board sent its decision to the environment ministers in Nunavut and Ottawa, establishing a quota of 28 bears.
In September, however, both governments rejected the decision. According to court documents, the federal deputy environment minister told the board that the quota “is likely not sustainable and creates conservation concerns for this management unit.” Instead, Ottawa said, the harvest should not exceed 4.5 per cent of the total population.
But the board stood its ground in a final decision submitted to the government in December 2015, arguing the deputy minister’s rejection “clearly disregards the extensive body of Inuit traditional knowledge” and was based “solely on the scientific population estimate.”
Finally, in October 2016, McKenna advised the board she was cutting the quota to 23 bears, which would bring it closer to the 4.5 per cent maximum, “to ensure the population remains stable and the harvest sustainable.”
In its application for judicial review, Makivik argued that McKenna had “pre-judged the outcome” of the process, “(set) aside entirely the Inuit traditional knowledge” the board had relied on, and “(failed) to even attempt the integration of the two systems of knowledge.”
Makivik also claimed that McKenna “approached the issue with a closed mind, failed to respect the decision-making procedure established by NILCA, (and) undermined the confidence of Nunavik Inuit in the wildlife management system.”
The organization said the Nunavik Inuit rely on the polar bear hunt for meat, economic benefits from the sale of hides, and the transmission of Inuit culture between generations. But it also argued this case is less about polar bears and more about the implementation of Inuit treaty rights. 
The federal government countered that McKenna did consider Inuit knowledge in her decision, and that a quota of 23 bears is actually slightly higher than a harvest rate of 4.5 per cent. That decision was a result of the inclusion of traditional knowledge, government lawyers argued.
In a judgment released on Oct. 30, Federal Court Justice Paul Favel found that McKenna acted reasonably when she made her decision and considered a number of relevant factors, including Inuit knowledge. However, he also acknowledged the co-management process didn’t work as smoothly as it should have, and said there was room for improvement. “In the future, the parties would benefit from better communication so that wildlife management decisions are properly made at the board and ministerial level rather than by recourse through the courts,” he wrote.
In a statement, a spokesperson for McKenna said the minister respects the court’s findings. “Indigenous peoples are key partners in conserving and protecting nature, and we recognize their unique perspectives, knowledge, rights and responsibilities that can improve conservation outcomes,” Sabrina Kim said.
Nicholas Dodd, a lawyer for Makivik, declined to speak about the case with the National Post. On Friday, however, he told the Lawyer’s Daily that his client is considering an appeal of the decision. The deadline to file an appeal is Nov. 29.

Conservation:
1. Protect the breeding stock.
2.Harvest the surplus wisely. (Surplus being the animals the habitat cannot sustain)
3.Balance animals and habitat.

Who should be responsible (who knows best) in polar bear "conservation"? The Nunavik Inuit, Government, or both?

Discuss.
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Radio Chatter / Re: Auto-connect and Predator text....
« Last post by GK .Dundas on Yesterday at 23:00:06 »
So I wanted to start a thread about ridiculous things our phones have done. I call it Auto-connect (My phone gave me this instead of autocorrect when I was having a grumpy about autocorrect) and predator text (phone gave me this once when I was trying to say predictive texts).

So far my favorite one
Wifes Text "Anything else needed before I finish the grocery order?"
Me text "White supremacy"
Wifes text "??? Something your not telling me?"
Me Text "White SUGAR for the coffee, not white supremacy"

How in gods green earth did my iphone switch out white sugar to white supremacy?

Now my wifes text look something like this every week "Aside from white supremacy, what else do we need from groceries?"

My wife's co-worker (a nice black lady) bugs me with "Hey Rick, want some white supremacy in your coffee?"

Errrrrrrrr . It will be awhile before I live that one down.

What are stories of phone mishaps?
Currently don't have a phone,but I do have a tablet.
And it's autocorrect is quite frankly the reason I have basically stopped posting on well over a dozen varied forums.
I have also developed a intense cynicism about about any hope developing artificial intelligence...artificial stupidity on the other hand.
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I had a helicopter when I was there.

And conscripts chopping wood into bite-sized morsels to feed the stoves in the Norgie tents at night.

That's a great ad for any 'stay in school' initiative ;)
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Australia’s most decorated former soldier, Ben Roberts-Smith, has gone on record saying that he wouldn’t recommend young Australians join the Australian Defence Force under its current leadership, slamming Defence for its lack of support for veterans.

Roberts-Smith's comments come as Minister for Veterans and Defence Personnel Darren Chester reportedly told a grieving Adelaide mother, whose son took his own life in February this year, that he would not support a royal commission into veterans suicides, saying it would "bog the DVA down for two years".

David Stafford Finney committed suicide earlier this year as a result of post traumatic stress from over two decades in the Royal Australian Navy, with his mother Julie-Ann Finney campaigning since for a royal commission into ex-service personnel taking their own lives.

At the time of writing, nearly 265,000 signatures have been registered for Finney's petition into pushing for a royal commission.

"He desperately wanted to stay alive, but David was failed by a broken system that is seeing more than one veteran a week take their own life. More than one death a week. That’s why I am calling for an urgent royal commission into veteran suicide rates," Finney's petition reads online.

"This petition is about the systemic failures the Australian Defence Force (ADF) and Department of Veterans Affairs (DVA), who had numerous opportunities to save my son and they failed. David was just one of too many veterans losing their battle with PTSD. This failure has created a whole new warzone for our veterans, one they can’t come home from."

The issue is also one being raised by Australia's most decorated former soldier, who has only recently been contacted for his first welfare check since leaving the Australian Army in 2012, and which Roberts-Smith said only came about due to his comments publicly criticising the current leadership of the ADF.

“My opinion is the Australian Defence Force needs good young Australians … but when you look at what is happening at the moment it gives me pause to think, ‘Is it a good option for somebody to do that’, knowing that at any point you could be injured, leave and not be supported in a way that is expected and that you should be supported because you have chosen to serve,” Roberts-Smith said last week.


“So from my perspective at the moment, it would take serious consideration before you would be advising people to [join the ADF]." [emphasis mine]

The Victoria Cross recipient went on further to say that he believes the current leadership regime should be replaced immediately.

Australian Defence Association executive director Neil James last week went on record himself to say that there was evidence of a need for a royal commission into veteran suicide, but stopped short of endorsing one himself.

"It really wouldn't matter to some fair extent which government's in power or who's at the top of the bureaucracy of the Defence Force, the problem is the law," James said.

"The ADA is of the view, and it's one shared by a lot of young veterans, that the royal commission wouldn't hurt."

James also suggested that cultural changes between generations of service personnel also made it more difficult for effective treatment across the board for veterans, noting that Vietnam veterans and Iraq or Afghanistan veterans could have very different ways of coping with post traumatic stress.

Earlier this month, the Department of Veterans Affairs launched a new Veteran Card for former service personnel, which it said aimed to show Australia's respect and recognition for veterans.

Prime Minister Scott Morrison said Australians had a great deal of respect for those who have served our nation in the uniforms of the Navy, Army and Air Force, and through the Veteran Card, veterans would have access to more than 10,000 offers from around 500 businesses, both over the counter and online.

“Much like the lapel pin gives every day Australians the opportunity to recognise veterans and thank them for their service, the offers available through the Veteran Card allow the business community to show its thanks,” the Prime Minister said following its launch.

“The broader recognition package we’ve developed, which includes the Veterans Covenant, the lapel pin and card is a way each and every one of us, including the business community, can say to our veterans ‘thank you for your service’.”

However, the card's have been somewhat ill received among veteran circles, who while grateful of the new cards, also believe more should be done to support ex-service personnel transition to civilian life.

https://www.defenceconnect.com.au/key-enablers/5171-debate-rages-about-royal-commission-into-veteran-suicide-as-victoria-cross-recipient-slams-adf
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Release, Retirement & SCAN / Re: Depart with Dignity
« Last post by Eye In The Sky on Yesterday at 22:32:39 »
Ref the "do it themselves" part...unless things have changed, there should be a RFC (Retirement Function Coordinator?) assigned.  I haven't done a DWD for a retiring mbr in a few years but...that was the title when I was the OPI. 

https://www.canada.ca/en/department-national-defence/corporate/reports-publications/transition-guide/annex-c.html

Annex C -CAF MEMBER TRANSITION – AIDE-MEMOIRE FOR UNIT COMMANDING OFFICERS

The initial enhancements to the transition experience, implemented immediately, are listed below. As the initial authority, the Unit CO is responsible to ensure the member is informed of these changes, has access to the initial transition resources and completes the following:

•Underlining the importance of the Depart-with-Dignity (DWD) program and ensuring all members receive a DWD ceremony as a form of acknowledgement of their service in the CAF.

CO’s Roles & Responsibilities:

•Arrange for, and ensure the member receives a Depart-with-Dignity (DWD) ceremony.
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