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Victoria is facing a public-safety crisis

CBH99

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Its happened in a few cases where an ordinary citizen has acted - however they usually end up being arrested by police and vilified by the Crown attorneys.
I always get a chuckle out of how Crown Prosecutors present cases in court.

Some of them are quite logical & straightforward, and treat it for what it is. Lots of time for folks like that.

Others act like they are prosecuting the crime of the century and sensationalize the hell out of it.

All the right words & phrases used to portray the accused as the most despicable piece of human trash who has ever existed…only to have it turn out to be something so petty it’s a waste of the court’s time.


Question - if the act of self defence meets the standards within the criminal code, can someone even be charged?
 

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I always get a chuckle out of how Crown Prosecutors present cases in court.

Some of them are quite logical & straightforward, and treat it for what it is. Lots of time for folks like that.

Others act like they are prosecuting the crime of the century and sensationalize the hell out of it.

All the right words & phrases used to portray the accused as the most despicable piece of human trash who has ever existed…only to have it turn out to be something so petty it’s a waste of the court’s time.


Question - if the act of self defence meets the standards within the criminal code, can someone even be charged?
You can always be charged. Even when it is a very clear cut case. Ask Ian Thompson how fair our justice system is.

Its called punishment by process, where even if your legally in the right they still make you pay.
 

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More details on the 'I can't understand why no one butt stroked him' incident ;(


As the Victoria Arion Male Choir sang In Flanders Fields, a man broke through the crowd part way through the ceremony and paced before the cenotaph yelling. He called for an end to Russia’s war on Ukraine, pulling out of NATO and “you can stand up for Africa … you show up every year for this bull—— but you don’t stop the wars.”

Dignitaries, soldiers, veterans and the crowd remained still and the choir continued throughout. He then walked off yelling profanities and was peacefully escorted away by Victoria police.

Victoria Police Chief Del Manak said he was glad police were on the scene to escort the individual away, allowing the remainder of the ceremony to continue.

 

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The former Mayor of View Royal is moving his store out of Victoria... it's a growing trend:

Home since ‘55, Greggs Furniture and Upholstery pondering move out of Victoria​


David Screech said an increasing amount of concerning incidents driving possible move


Greggs Furniture and Upholstery has called The City of Victoria home for more than 70 years, but as incidents of staff being attacked and property being stolen and damaged continue to increase, owner David Screech is starting to consider moving elsewhere in the region.

While the Government Street location has always had its encounters with graffiti, broken windows, and people setting up temporary shelters on the property, Screech said things have been escalating rapidly.

On Tuesday (Nov. 22) morning for example, Screech was alone in the showroom when he said a man came in and started yelling at him to clean the building’s windows, punching them as he left. On Monday, a fire pit was found set up next to the building, though fortunately not lit, and recently the catalytic converter was stolen off their delivery truck and the mirrors smashed, together totaling nearly $1,800 in damages.

Nearly every day, he said staff has to deal with more mundane issues like cleaning up garbage – sometimes including human waste – from the property, and removing people sleeping in the alcove in front of the store’s staff entrance.

But the really concerning incident came in October when a staff member was threatened at knifepoint after their car was broken into.

“It’s certainly unsettling for the staff members … and so by extension it has to become difficult for me because the staff are the lifeblood of the business,” said Screech. “What I’ve been thinking about more and more recently is how many people are not coming to our store now because of what is going on in this neighbourhood.”

Beyond the additional costs the business has had to cover for repairs and enhanced security measures like better exterior lighting, Screech said the incidents are also scaring off customers who don’t want to risk encountering any of these incidents themselves, especially seniors who often travel to the store by bus, requiring some walking in the neighbourhood.

Screech said he can’t describe the situation as anything other than “lawlessness,” driven by increased numbers of people living on the streets in the area. He said police do come when called, but they are only able to respond after the incident has been resolved, something he is understanding of given how busy police are in the region.


 

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The province has introduced a suite of fairly modest reforms. I’m still trying to find out what they mean by their proposed changed approach to bail.

 

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“Being compassionate, concerned and taking action on mental-health and addiction issues does not mean that we have to accept repeated criminal behaviour or violence,” said Premier David Eby. “Everyone deserves to feel safe in their community. We are making changes to bring key groups together to keep people and communities safe – ensuring those who commit violent acts face consequences, and creating as many opportunities as possible for them to address mental-health and addiction issues to break the cycle of a life in and out of jail.”
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To quote numerous police departments’ motto: “Deeds Speak”

I’ll be looking for material changes in lotus land before I consider entertaining my wife’s desire to return to her home town…or at least modify the landing zone up into Saanich or somewhere out of the main Victoria crap zone.
 

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To quote numerous police departments’ motto: “Deeds Speak”

I’ll be looking for material changes in lotus land before I consider entertaining my wife’s desire to return to her home town…or at least modify the landing zone up into Saanich or somewhere out of the main Victoria crap zone.

Sidney has a nice Legion with excellent scooter access ;)


scooter grandpa GIF
 

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As near as I can interpret, the plan is to have a lot more "responders" and temporary holding points so that people are being moved off the street and back onto it so fast and so often that they have no time to get up to any trouble.
 

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Have no fear for Victoria public safety. Parliament is slapping more guns (semi-auto center fire) to the guns ban list on Bill C21. That will sort everything out.
 
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