US Army drops the Beret for most troops.

[cupper]

Just in time for summer heat, Army bids adieu to black berets, returns to baseball-style caps

By Associated Press, Published: June 14

COLUMBIA, S.C. — It’s hot, it doesn’t keep the sun out of your eyes, and you need two hands and a mirror to make sure it’s on straight. After 10 years of complaints, the Army is all but ditching the black wool beret and allowing soldiers to go back to the old brimmed patrol cap for their everyday duties.

“It’s the military equivalent of being able to wear a baseball cap to work,” said Col. Pete Brooks of the South Carolina Army National Guard. “Wearing the beret in 100-degree South Carolina heat was like wearing a wet piece of black wool on your head.”

Army Secretary John McHugh ordered the change to take effect Tuesday, the service’s 236th birthday.

Elite units in the 1.1-million-member Army will continue to wear their colored berets as a mark of honor — green for Special Forces, tan for Rangers, maroon for airborne troops. But from now on, other soldiers will have to pull out the black beret only for special events, such as change-of-command ceremonies. Soldiers, of course, will still wear their helmets in combat.

“This just makes things a little bit easier for us,” said Staff Sgt. Mylinda DuRousseau, who works with the 3rd Army at nearby Shaw Air Force Base. She said working as a cook meant she had to keep her shoulder-length hair tied back in a bun, which couldn’t fit under the tight beret.

And then there was the three-step process of putting the thing on right: First, adjust the blue patch over the left eye; next, use two hands to straighten it; then, pull it on far enough so it stayed put, DuRousseau said.

In fact, the Army had to install mirrors at entries and exits so soldiers could be sure they had it on properly.

As for the patrol cap — a soft, 50-50 cotton-nylon blend that looks like a flat-top baseball hat in camouflage green — “you could reach in your pocket and flip it on, and just keep moving,” Brooks said.

The change is one of several new uniform adjustments, including allowing soldiers to either sew or use Velcro to attach insignia and nametags. In the past, badges had to be pinned on, a lengthy process that required the use of a ruler to keep everything lined up. Another switch will be a return to dressier uniforms for Army men and women inside the Pentagon, a step ordered to spiff up the Army’s image.

The uniform changes — especially the dropping of the beret — were popular on the Army’s Facebook page, which registered at least 3,000 “likes” after the switch was made.

The black beret became standard a decade ago, introduced in a surprise move by then-Army Chief of Staff Gen. Eric Shinseki as a “symbol of unity” and a morale booster. But elite units that were distinguishable by their berets resented the change.

Lt. Col. Jeff Hannon, who works for the Army chief of staff in the Pentagon, had mixed feelings about the dropping of the beret.

“Under some circumstances it is clearly a good-looking piece of headgear” and more formal than the cap, he said.

But Hannon and others said the cap is more utilitarian because it affords protection against the sun when troops are out in the field. Hannon was showing his wife and young sons around the Pentagon on Tuesday amid the Army’s birthday celebration.

“I actually liked the beret,” said Hannon’s wife, Katherine. “I thought it looked so much better than the cap, a little more sophisticated.”

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[cupper]

“This just makes things a little bit easier for us,” said Staff Sgt. Mylinda DuRousseau, who works with the 3rd Army at nearby Shaw Air Force Base. She said working as a cook meant she had to keep her shoulder-length hair tied back in a bun, which couldn’t fit under the tight beret.

And then there was the three-step process of putting the thing on right: First, adjust the blue patch over the left eye; next, use two hands to straighten it; then, pull it on far enough so it stayed put, DuRousseau said.

In fact, the Army had to install mirrors at entries and exits so soldiers could be sure they had it on properly.

Is it just me or do they seem to be having a more difficult time wearing berets than members of the CF have? I can understand some of the more practical arguments regarding comfort, tradition for Spec Ops units, etc. but seriously, is it really that difficult to wear?

 

[chrisf]

Does this mean the barter value of dirty old spare Canadian beret will once again rise?

 

[Robert0288]

Is it just me or do they seem to be having a more difficult time wearing berets than members of the CF have? I can understand some of the more practical arguments regarding comfort, tradition for Spec Ops units, etc. but seriously, is it really that difficult to wear?

What you quoted just sounds a lot like lazyness and crying about nothing to me.  Also if your in the field and/or 100+ degrees wouldn't you be switching to a field/patrol cap anyways?

 

[dimsum]

What you quoted just sounds a lot like lazyness and crying about nothing to me.  Also if your in the field and/or 100+ degrees wouldn't you be switching to a field/patrol cap anyways?

Not if the base is in a location that's over 100 degrees (such as parts of South Carolina.)  On the other hand, the Brits and Dutch wore (and prob still wear) berets while in KAF when most others wore the wide-brimmed hat (or patrol cap for the US forces), so I guess that argument isn't all that great.

 

[PMedMoe]

“This just makes things a little bit easier for us,” said Staff Sgt. Mylinda DuRousseau, who works with the 3rd Army at nearby Shaw Air Force Base. She said working as a cook meant she had to keep her shoulder-length hair tied back in a bun, which couldn’t fit under the tight beret.

Okay, I want to know where on her head the bun is located?  Under the beret?  ???

 

[OldSolduer]

Most Americans that wore berets wore them like pizzas anyways.

 

[George Wallace]

Okay, I want to know where on her head the bun is located?  Under the beret?  ???

Sounds like a "headspacing" problem...........

 

[George Wallace]

Most Americans that wore berets wore them like pizzas anyways.

The US Air Force had a felt 'hat' that resembled a beret, but wasn't a 'beret' per say, if I recall correctly.

 

[Journeyman]

And then there was the three-step process of putting the thing on right: First, adjust the blue patch over the left eye; next, use two hands to straighten it; then, pull it on far enough so it stayed put, DuRousseau said.

:rofl: I can see how that could really cut into your day

 

[211RadOp]

Sounds like a "headspacing" problem...........

And then there was the three-step process of putting the thing on right: First, adjust the blue patch over the left eye; next, use two hands to straighten it; then, pull it on far enough so it stayed put

Or it could be "timing"  ;D

 

[cupper]

Having spent the past 10 years living 20 miles from the 5 sided monument to Murphy's law, I have never seen so many different possible ways that one can wear a beret. 9 out of 10 were oversized, so they either looked like a pizza or came so far down on one side over the ear that they almost rested on the shoulder. Ive seen replicas of the balloon that the ballonboy supposedly flew off in. I even see lots of mushroom caps as well. :nana: