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True or a Division…
Down here we just make a city around a Div plus base…
A big enough Base creates it own ecosystem.
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Down here we just make a city around a Div plus base…
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That would be true, if our formations were large enough and our support from industry wasn't centralized within the Windsor-Montreal corridor.
The "SuperBase" idea in the 1994 White Paper overlooked that key tidbit. Calgary, Vancouver, London, and Winnipeg all had access to logistical supports and industry to support a garrison and their families. Shilo, Petawawa, Gagetown, and Cold Lake... not so much. Everything takes more time and effort to support when external support is coming from those urban areas we sold our land off to to balance the budget.
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3 pages mostly of CAF training areas and how the CAF can (or can't) use them in the Ukraine thread.
Maintenance of the aim.
Maintenance of the aim.
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Have I mentioned how bad the new RCN DEU shirts are? They are essentially transparent...
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MacKenzie King's line - too much geography.
Everything in Canada is going to cost more because there are too few people and there is too much distance.
The cost of maintaining a trained force in Canada is going to be greater than it is in the states. On the other hand our geography and population forces us to deal with small units widely dispersed.
Which sounds like the battlefield predicted and the war being fought.
We should be ahead of the game in Adaptive Distributed Operations. Our country forces that on us. In peace or war.
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Because we're dumb. We need more doing officers. Besides, they're not really "planning" officers. For the most part they are relatively innocuous paper pushers.
I can point back to only two Chief's of Land Staff who were genuine "planning" officers in the Army during my 44 years of service.
The first was Charlie Belzile who came up with Corps 86 and the second was Mike Jeffery who came up with Advancing with Purpose. In each case they looked at the need of the times and had the vision to propose and implement a model to address the then existing challenges. There are obviously disagreements that many have with both models; there always are and hindsight is always 20/20. But the point is they moved the yardsticks while most everyone else has merely reshuffled the deckchairs on the Titanic through ineffective fine tuning.
Ike reportedly said that “The plan is nothing , planning is everything”.
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How to fix a howitzer: US offers help line to Ukraine troops
A MILITARY BASE IN SOUTHEASTERN POLAND (AP) — On the front lines in Ukraine, a soldier was having trouble firing his 155 mm howitzer gun. So, he turned to a team of Americans on the other end of his phone line for help.
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Out freakin' standing.... And telemaintenance ....
How to fix a howitzer: US offers help line to Ukraine troops
A MILITARY BASE IN SOUTHEASTERN POLAND (AP) — On the front lines in Ukraine, a soldier was having trouble firing his 155 mm howitzer gun. So, he turned to a team of Americans on the other end of his phone line for help.
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Connected to the war perhaps? Iranian arms and drone manufacturing sites were hit over night.
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Iran FA'd, and has now FO'd.
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I’d venture Israel.
Iran has been active recently, and payback is a bitch. It’s a multiple benefit COA for Israel, as it hurts an enemy and helps direct and indirect Allies.
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Bit dated info wise. Look up the RCR Battle school. Some 130 M spent in new infrastructure. Armor trg could be done here with additional maint and supply folks and with a new template extending into Georgian Bay ( not popular with boaters) also reinstatement of the Meaford Navy to patrol templated area during live fire. I speak from actual experience.Meaford used to be used for basic armour training for both the RegF and ResF. I haven't been there in decades but Google Earth makes me think that the old tank hangar is still there. It strikes me as adequate to teach basic skills such as driving and static gunnery (assuming that there is practice ammunition available to fit in the Georgian Bay trace.) I think southern Ontario artillery regiments still use it for weekend live fire exercises.
The basic facilities are still there and with some effort could be made to work. Borden would provide your maintenance infrastructure.
The problem with Canada is that it always looks for the 100% solution and dismisses out of hand a doable 70% one. There's no need to use Meaford for tanks if you have no wish to train the three reserve units within a couple of hours of Meaford on tanks. There's no need to put LAV's in Meaford if you have no intention to train the dozen infantry regiments within a couple of hours of Meaford on LAVs.
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How to fix a howitzer: US offers help line to Ukraine troops
A MILITARY BASE IN SOUTHEASTERN POLAND (AP) — On the front lines in Ukraine, a soldier was having trouble firing his 155 mm howitzer gun. So, he turned to a team of Americans on the other end of his phone line for help.
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There's a catch with the M1s going to Ukraine...
We’ve undoubtedly committed the tanks to Ukraine, but don’t expect to see them there anytime soon. We are not providing the M1A2s from our existing inventory of tanks; the Ukrainians will get shiny (OK, dull OD green ones, actually) new ones fresh off the assembly line. It could be several months before tanks can be assembled and shipped overseas to the warzone. And we can make them in only one place; a government-owned General Dynamics-operated plant in Lima, Ohio.
Building a tank is slow going, and the Ohio facility can only put out a dozen new units per month. But wait, there’s more holding up the delivery. The assembly line is now full, fulfilling orders for Poland and Taiwan. These are paying customers; we can’t exactly toss them to the back of the line and throw them on the proverbial backburner. Poland has ordered an impressive 250 M1A2s at a cost of at least $9 million each (who says war isn’t big business?). They are supposed to be delivered in 2025. Politico tells us that, in the meantime, we are supplying the Poles with over 100 M1A1 tanks recently retired by the Marine Corps. You see, Warsaw needs them to replace the more than 250 old T-72 tanks they gave to Ukraine last year.
The Taiwanese placed their order for 108 M1A2 Abrams in 2019, anticipating possible future issues with mainland China. The first of these units was supposed to be delivered in 2024. Things are starting to get a bit sticky, and someone has to decide who gets what and when.
Abrams tanks are no longer “stick-built” from the ground up. Instead, “seed vehicles” are used. These seed vehicles are bare-bones A1 tanks that General Dynamics modifies to meet the customer’s needs. Each one is custom-built according to the technology and armaments that the customer chooses.
An M1A2 Abrams is unloaded from a C17 in Bulgaria in June 2015. It was later used in the joint training exercise Operation Speed and Power. US Army photo by Spc. Jacqueline Dowland, 13th Public Affairs Detachment. DVIDS
What are the Ukrainians to do in the many months it will take to build and ship their tanks? We plan to begin training them on the care and maintenance of the tanks they do not yet have, and we will be teaching them how to operate the vehicles individually and instruct their leaders in American combined arms maneuver tactics.
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OK, What’s the Catch?
We’ve undoubtedly committed the tanks to Ukraine, but don’t expect to see them there anytime soon. We are not providing the M1A2s from our existing inventory of tanks; the Ukrainians will get shiny (OK, dull OD green ones, actually) new ones fresh off the assembly line. It could be several months before tanks can be assembled and shipped overseas to the warzone. And we can make them in only one place; a government-owned General Dynamics-operated plant in Lima, Ohio.
Building a tank is slow going, and the Ohio facility can only put out a dozen new units per month. But wait, there’s more holding up the delivery. The assembly line is now full, fulfilling orders for Poland and Taiwan. These are paying customers; we can’t exactly toss them to the back of the line and throw them on the proverbial backburner. Poland has ordered an impressive 250 M1A2s at a cost of at least $9 million each (who says war isn’t big business?). They are supposed to be delivered in 2025. Politico tells us that, in the meantime, we are supplying the Poles with over 100 M1A1 tanks recently retired by the Marine Corps. You see, Warsaw needs them to replace the more than 250 old T-72 tanks they gave to Ukraine last year.
The Taiwanese placed their order for 108 M1A2 Abrams in 2019, anticipating possible future issues with mainland China. The first of these units was supposed to be delivered in 2024. Things are starting to get a bit sticky, and someone has to decide who gets what and when.
Abrams tanks are no longer “stick-built” from the ground up. Instead, “seed vehicles” are used. These seed vehicles are bare-bones A1 tanks that General Dynamics modifies to meet the customer’s needs. Each one is custom-built according to the technology and armaments that the customer chooses.
An M1A2 Abrams is unloaded from a C17 in Bulgaria in June 2015. It was later used in the joint training exercise Operation Speed and Power. US Army photo by Spc. Jacqueline Dowland, 13th Public Affairs Detachment. DVIDS
Why Don’t We Send Them What We Already Have?
Great question. I was just wondering that. Wouldn’t it be easier to send them the M1A2 Abrams from our existing inventory and slowly replenish our stockpiles, as we are not currently at war? Yes, it would, but it would also be against the law. US federal law prohibits the export of tanks with classified armor packages. This includes those that utilize depleted uranium as a critical component. So, we strip off all of the high-speed classified stuff and custom-make the new tanks for export to our allies. This takes time. Time that the Ukrainians can ill afford.What are the Ukrainians to do in the many months it will take to build and ship their tanks? We plan to begin training them on the care and maintenance of the tanks they do not yet have, and we will be teaching them how to operate the vehicles individually and instruct their leaders in American combined arms maneuver tactics.
The US Agrees to Send M1 Abrams Tanks to Ukraine, but There Is a Catch
The Biden administration has decided to provide the Ukrainian armed forces with 31 M1A2 Abrams main battle tanks, a stunning reversal of policy. The new tanks will be custom-made for export and will take several months to assemble and ship, as the assembly line is currently full with orders from...
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