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The Bundeswehr posted this on their Instagram last Wednesday (the day after the pics surfaced of Russia's failed crossing attempt):
Preparing for the Very High Readiness Joint Task Force 2023 – Panzergrenadierbrigade 37 will be part of the NATO Rapid Reaction Force in the coming year. With this, the Atlantic Alliance can react quickly and flexibly to security policy developments if necessary. However, large-scale exercises are required to ensure that all the cogs mesh perfectly between the international combat and support organizations. One of these has now started with the “Wettner Heide” exercise. The first troops have now moved from Klietz and the Senne military training area towards the Bergen and Munster military training areas, where, as a highlight, more than 5,000 soldiers from up to nine nations will train together.

On the way there, the associations had to cross the Weser and the Elbe, among other things. These could be overcome via a bridge from the Amphibian M3 rapid-floating bridge or by ferry with the folding floating bridge and motorboat 3. Heavy equipment was also prepared for rail transport.

The timing was impeccable.
 

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Also to add to that... most homes in Eastern Europe are made of concrete and rebar. There is very little timber used in homebuilding because it's prohibitively expensive compared to North America (where we have matchbox houses springing up like daisies).
In the four years I was stationed in Naples, Italy ('99-'03) I only once saw a wooden house; everything else was like you say stone or concrete (being Italy not sure about the rebar). And I used propane for my kitchen stove, dryer and indoor heating (winter time) and I don't mean a gas line. You went down to the dealer and bought these propane tanks, the same as we use for our BBQs, named, appropriately enough "bombas."
 

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Still unconfirmed but Haartez is reporting that the siege at Mariupol is over and the Ukrainian defenders are being evacuated. More to follow:

Buses Carrying Ukrainian Servicemen Out of Azovstal Appear to Signal End of Siege
The unit holed up in what was the last Ukrainian stronghold in Mariupol said it was fulfilling orders to save the lives of troops at the plant, which has become a symbol of Ukrainian resistance to Russia's invasion

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May. 16, 2022 11:12 PM


The Ukrainian unit holed up beneath the Azovstal steelworks in Mariupol said on Monday its garrison was fulfilling orders to save the lives of troops, an apparent sign that the longest and bloodiest battle of the Ukraine war had come to an end.

Reuters saw about a dozen buses apparently carrying Ukrainian fighters leaving the plant on Monday. It was not possible to determine how many people were aboard.

Some 600 fighters have been estimated to be inside the vast Soviet-era plant, including dozens of wounded. "In order to save lives, the entire Mariupol garrison is implementing the approved decision of the Supreme Military Command and hopes for the support of the Ukrainian people," the Azov Regiment said in a social media post.

It said the defenders of Mariupol, in the southeast, had held out for 82 days, buying time for the rest of Ukraine to battle Russian forces and secure Western arms needed to withstand Russia's assault.

The steel works was the last Ukrainian-held bastion in the once prosperous port, now in ruins after months of Russian siege that Ukraine says killed tens of thousands of people.

Since February, Mariupol's devastation has become a symbol both of Ukraine's ability to withstand Russia's invasion, and of Russia's willingness to destroy Ukrainian cities that hold out.

In a video accompanying the Azov Regiment statement, one of the unit's senior commanders, Denys Prokopenko, said: "The main thing is to realize all the risks, is there a plan B, are you fully committed to that plan which must allow for fulfilling the assigned tasks and preserve the lives and health of personnel?"

This is the highest level of overseeing troops. All the more so when your decision is endorsed by the highest military command."

Prokopenko did not spell out what action the defenders were taking. The video was released hours after Russia said it had agreed to evacuate wounded Ukrainian soldiers to a medical facility in the Russian-controlled town of Novoazovsk.

Apart from the steelworks, Mariupol is entirely in Russian hands after a siege which left residents huddled in basements with no food and water and streets littered with dead bodies.


Moscow denies having targeted civilians. The United Nations and Red Cross both estimate thousands of civilians died, with the true toll still uncounted.

The last defenders, including many who were wounded, had been holding out for weeks in bunkers and tunnels built to withstand nuclear war, deep beneath Azovstal, one of the largest metallurgical plants in Europe.


Civilians were evacuated from inside the plant earlier this month. "An agreement has been reached on the removal of the wounded," Russia's defense ministry said. "A humanitarian corridor has been opened through which wounded Ukrainian servicemen are being taken to a medical facility in Novoazovsk.

"Ukraine's Deputy Defense Minister Hanna Malyar told Ukrainian television: "Any information can harm the processes that are taking place … Inasmuch as the process is under way, we can't say what's happening right now."

Earlier, the wife of an Azov Battalion member had described conditions at the plant: "They are in hell. They receive new wounds every day. They are without legs or arms, exhausted, without medicines," Natalia Zaritskaya said.

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Still unconfirmed but Haartez is reporting that the siege at Mariupol is over and the Ukrainian defenders are being evacuated ...
Usual grain-of-salt info-machine caveats, but also "confirmed" by RUS state media
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Usual grain-of-salt info-machine caveats, but also "confirmed" by RUS state media
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Moscow Times is also saying its an evacuation of wounded soldiers.

Russia's Defense Ministry said Monday that an agreement has been reached to evacuate injured soldiers from the Azovstal steel plant in Ukraine's port city of Mariupol.

"An agreement was reached with representatives of the Ukrainian military blocked at Azovstal in Mariupol to evacuate the wounded," the ministry said, adding that a "regime of silence" was introduced for the duration of the evacuation.
 

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Moscow Times is also saying its an evacuation of wounded soldiers.
This from the UKR President's info-machine as of about an hour ago ....
... Regarding the situation in Mariupol.

Thanks to the actions of the Ukrainian military - the Armed Forces of Ukraine, intelligence, the negotiating team, the International Committee of the Red Cross and the United Nations, we hope that we will be able to save the lives of our guys. Among them are the seriously wounded, they are being provided with medical aid.

I want to emphasize: Ukraine needs Ukrainian heroes alive. This is our principle. I think that every adequate person will understand these words.

The operation to rescue the defenders of Mariupol was started by our military and intelligence officers. To bring the boys home, the work continues, and this work needs delicacy. And time ...
... not to mention the ultimate authority, right?
... The Azov battalion surrendered in the city of Mariupol. The wounded are being taken out of Azovstal. The commander of the Azov, Denis Prokopenko, published a video message in which he de facto recognized the surrender of the Azov. "The defenders of Mariupol fulfilled the order, despite all the difficulties, they delayed the superior enemy forces for 82 days and allowed the Ukrainian army to regroup, prepare more personnel and receive a large amount of weapons from partner countries. No weapons will work without professionally trained military personnel, which makes them the most valuable element of the army. For the sake of saving lives, the entire Mariupol garrison fulfills the approved decision of the supreme military command and hopes for the support of the Ukrainian people." ...
OP edit to add - this from the UKR's Deputy Defence Minister (Google English below - original in Ukrainian here)

Together, the GUR of the Ministry of Defense, the Armed Forces of Ukraine, the National Guard, and the Border Guard Service launched an operation to rescue defenders of Mariupol blocked on the territory of the Azovstal plant.​

2 hours ago | ID: 67538

On May 16, 53 seriously injured people were evacuated from Azovstal to a medical facility in Novoazovsk for medical treatment.

Another 211 people were taken to Olenivka through the humanitarian corridor.

An exchange procedure will be carried out to return them home.

As for the defenders who still remain on the territory of Azovstal, rescue efforts are being carried out by the joint efforts of the above-mentioned agencies.

Thanks to the defenders of Mariupol, we have gained critical time to form reserves, regroup forces and receive assistance from partners.

The defenders of Mariupol fulfilled all the tasks set by the command in full.

Unfortunately, we do not have the opportunity to unblock Azovstal by military means.

The most important common task of all Ukraine and the whole world is to save the lives of the defenders of Mariupol.

Deputy Minister of Defense of Ukraine Hanna Malyar.
 
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If it's in the Daily Mail, it must be true...


Putin's commanders are slaughtering their own wounded soldiers rather than retrieving them from the battlefield for medical treatment, captured Russian soldiers reveal
  • Russian lieutenant-colonel is accused of shooting dead multiple injured troops on the battlefield
  • Army intelligence troops captured by Ukraine say they saw the killings of five of their comrades
  • Ukraine has accused Russia of failing to take back its war dead, leaving piles of corpses
  • Ukrainian troops have reached the Russian border to the north of Kharkiv, pushing back Kremlin forces


    Russian commanders are slaughtering their own wounded soldiers instead of retrieving them from the battlefield for treatment, according to Putin's own troops

    The chilling account comes from young army intelligence troops captured by the Ukrainians.

    They are shown speaking in a video clip made by Ukrainian journalist Volodymyr Zolkin who has chronicled Russian captives for Open Media Ukraine.

    One soldier told how commanders had 'finished off their wounded'.

    Asked by Zolkin what he meant, the captured Russian said: 'Just like that…a wounded soldier is lying on the ground, and a battalion's commander shoots him dead from a gun.'

    He explained: 'It was a young man, he was wounded.

    'He was on the ground. He was asked if he could walk, so he was shot dead with a gun.'

    They are shown speaking in a video clip made by Ukrainian journalist Volodymyr Zolkin (pictured) who has chronicled Russian captives for Open Media Ukraine

    A second soldier said on the video: 'The most important thing - this wasn't a single case. The Lieutenant-Colonel was walking around….'

    A third soldier then says: 'He shot four or five like this.'

    The second soldier says: 'They were all young men.'

    The third added: 'They could have been rescued, given help, taken out of there. He simply shot them dead.'

    There was no clarity from the video where in Ukraine the alleged shooting of wounded soldiers by their commander took place.

    Nor was it clear from the exchanges where the men had been captured, or in which unit they served.

    The video came as Ukraine has accused Russia of failing to take back its dead.

    Some corpses are loaded in white body bags on refrigerated train wagons.

    Putin's spokesman Dmitry Peskov told Ostorozhno Media that the Kremlin has 'no information' on either the bodies of the dead soldiers nor the wounded in Ukraine.

    He was told: 'People from all over the country write in social networks that they cannot even get the bodies [of the dead soldiers in Ukraine]. The captives are in trouble too…

    'What will we do with our dead and will we exchange captives?'

    He replied: 'We do not have this information. It is with the Ministry of Defence

  • Russians are slaughter their own wounded soldiers, captured troops say
 

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So he is going to rename a few schools, change uniforms, and hair regulations, and expect to solve his man power issue without addressing the root causes? Brilliant!

Now, now... I'm sure that there are heroic efforts underway - as we speak - to increase the amount of loyalty required to guarantee a good outcome for our most senior ranks ;)
 
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