Ukraine - Superthread

[The Bread Guy]

Vice-speaker of UKR Parliament calling for what sounds like a no-fly zone

... There are four power plants with 15 energy units in Ukraine and letting Russia attack a country like that is a collapse of the entire international security system!
For exactly this reason I am calling on you to do everything you can at the level of your local parliaments in order to close the sky over Ukraine and introduce a no-fly zone. This is the only way to save hundreds of thousands of lives, or equally by silent idleness become accomplices in war crimes against Ukrainian people ...

 

[KevinB]

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1498278869756956676

Coming back via V Corps

 

[Kirkhill]

Lookit how well RUS state media says the separatist rebels are doing ...

DPR forces completing encircling Mariupol — Russian defense ministry

On February 24, the Russian president said that in response to a request by the heads of the Donbass republics he had made a decision to carry out a special military operation

tass.com

Any other articles from TASS or Pravda making reference to the Northern Operations in the Kyiv - Kharkiv area?

 

[Kirkhill]

Have to ask the question, where is the Russian infantry to support their tanks?

Brewing up in the back of their BTRs.

 

[KevinB]

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1498360815245615104

So what's that $5USD now?

 

[Kirkhill]

Well I did see a picture of a truck with a "Z" painted the wrong side up, scrawled out, and a new Z put right beside it. You had one job.

That's Karl with a K.

 

[Kirkhill]

I am sure the Belarus situation of we are no longer a nuke restricted country will piss them off. Don't think Poland will tolerate if Russians puting nukes there. Its bad enough they have to be next to Kalingrad. Haven't heard any news from Poland if they shut down the border. They might just to choke that exclave.
Kalingrad is a strategic hold for the Russians. Friends and family in Poland are frustrated, scared and mad. Border crossings are mad busy estimated 150k are entering Poland. Ukrainian and Polish have a good amount of commonalities so they will easily acclimate.
Glad Poland spends the 2% on defense. Although if this goes side ways Poland will just end up the battlefield of Europe as always. No one in Poland wants to see that.

Ukraine is gone be this century Poland of partitioning. If the Russians don't completely take over they will neuter Ukraine. Russia needs the Black sea, they will take Donbas regions. Once negotiations start we will at least know the real demands.

Noteworthy commentary. Thank you.

 

[McG]

And IF only.

Our Government built a Pipeline out east and Stop importing Russian Oil.

Stop listening to a screeching 13 year old girl about energy needs.

all IFs and no action. I will not hold my breath.

From statistics that I have seen, Canada hasn't imported quantities of oil from Russia since 2019. If we want to officially ban the import as a symbolic or feel-good measure, then I have no objection. But we should not fool ourselves into thinking that is anything substantive.

The reason to build a pipeline to the east coast is not to remove any need for Russian oil; the pipeline is to facilitate export. Maybe exported Canadian oil could (after a few years of pipeline construction) offset some European need for Russian oil. But I don't see how anyone is going to get a pipe across the St Lawrence over the objections of vote rich Montreal. If you really want a pipe, maybe stay north of the river and terminate at Sept-Îles or Port-Cartier.

 

[Remius]

Regular caveats of course on veracity.

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1498332002449248258

 

[Haggis]

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1498360815245615104

So what's that $5USD now?

RU 5M = $63,200 CAD today. I suspect this is a time limited offer with a daily declining value.

 

[Kirkhill]

And IF only.

Our Government built a Pipeline out east and Stop importing Russian Oil.

Stop listening to a screeching 13 year old girl about energy needs.

all IFs and no action. I will not hold my breath.

A point of agreement HTC.

 

[Kirkhill]

Just a quick tidbit from today's announcement from Ottawa ...

Well there go the rest of our military stocks.

 

[KevinB]

Regular caveats of course on veracity.

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1498332002449248258

His own personal twitter feed posted it yesterday

 

[TacticalTea]

From statistics that I have seen, Canada hasn't imported quantities of oil from Russia since 2019. If we want to officially ban the import as a symbolic or feel-good measure, then I have no objection. But we should not fool ourselves into thinking that is anything substantive.

The reason to build a pipeline to the east coast is not to remove any need for Russian oil; the pipeline is to facilitate export. Maybe exported Canadian oil could (after a few years of pipeline construction) offset some European need for Russian oil. But I don't see how anyone is going to get a pipe across the St Lawrence over the objections of vote rich Montreal. If you really want a pipe, maybe stay north of the river and terminate at Sept-Îles or Port-Cartier.

There was a project for a terminal at the Saguenay river.

It was denied last month by the Liberals.

 

[daftandbarmy]

.....and still speaking...................and still speaking...................and still speaking...................and still speaking...................and still speaking...................and still speaking..............

(solid point about ensuring Belarus held to account too, but please...)

Wait, I'll get my pillow.

I think he's done a great job at turning a disastrous experience (for Ontario) as Premier into an average result as an international diplomat.

At least it shows there's some hope for every mediocre Canadian politican, at whatever level they choose to mess up

 

[KevinB]

Everyone is joining the party apparently.

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1498366362540032001

 

[Czech_pivo]

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1498360815245615104

So what's that $5USD now?

Alot of these conscripts would be happier with a house, 10 acres of farmland and wife. Offer than that instead. The Rubles will just be stolen from them the moment they are back in Russia.

 

[Remius]

Everyone is joining the party apparently.

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1498366362540032001

Needs a bit more training lol. Looks like she set herself on fire as well

 

[KevinB]

Needs a bit more training lol. Looks like she set herself on fire as well

I'm sure it was the first run for her.
But they kept fairly calm and made it out.

 

[The Bread Guy]

Latest from UKR Pres info-machine on the talks:

Ukrainian and Russian delegations held the first round of negotiations in the area of the Ukraine-Belarus border in order to find common ground for the fastest ceasefire. The parties discussed in detail a number of key topics on which they have prospects for finding mutually acceptable decisions. A decision was made to immediately hold additional consultations in the capitals of the states. After that, the second round of negotiations of Ukrainian and Russian parties is to take place in the near future.