Ukraine - Superthread

[RangerRay]

You know things are bad when neutral countries (Sweden, Finland) join NATO, Sweden and Germany send anti-tank missiles to a war zone, and Switzerland participates in EU sanctions.

 

[Czech_pivo]

Anyone else notice that Germany's announcement over the weekend that they are stepping up military spending and are now publicly committing to honour the 2% pledge is getting ZERO coverage here in Canada? Nothing mentioned by any of the mainstream media, no similar calls for Canada to finally start honouring its previously announced commitment as well. And people say that the Canadian media is not in the pockets of a certain political party - stuff like this certainly doesn't help.

 

[Altair]

Into the "every weapon" spectrum falls chem and bio. Yes I realize these are proscribed but that hasn't been much of a deterrant to various tinpot dickheads. So are we ready to defend against either a well or not so well targetted attack or just continue to have our collective heads up our arses?

You want a honest answer or the answer that would make us collectively feel better?

 

[Altair]

Anyone else notice that Germany's announcement over the weekend that they are stepping up military spending and are now publicly committing to honour the 2% pledge is getting ZERO coverage here in Canada? Nothing mentioned by any of the mainstream media, no similar calls for Canada to finally start honouring its previously announced commitment as well. And people say that the Canadian media is not in the pockets of a certain political party - stuff like this certainly doesn't help.

Since when has it been as germany goes as goes Canada?

 

[KevinB]

Anyone else notice that Germany's announcement over the weekend that they are stepping up military spending and are now publicly committing to honour the 2% pledge is getting ZERO coverage here in Canada? Nothing mentioned by any of the mainstream media, no similar calls for Canada to finally start honouring its previously announced commitment as well. And people say that the Canadian media is not in the pockets of a certain political party - stuff like this certainly doesn't help.

German effectively doubled its Military Budget this year - which works out to about 45B USD extra to spend on modernization.

 

[KevinB]

Since when has it been as germany goes as goes Canada?

Furthermore German is in the heart of it. Life got a lot more "real" for Germans in the past week.

Canada has the advantage of still being at the Mall, not the Wall.

 

[KevinB]

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1498243146601349125

I'm guessing the UKR got some Mig's and SU's this weekend...

 

[Remius]

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1498289020757061632

 

[tomydoom]

German effectively doubled its Military Budget this year - which works out to about 45B USD extra to spend on modernization.

I watched the announcement on BBC, my jaw hit the floor. The Germans are angry.

 

[KevinB]

Leadership

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1498224921205481478

and Anon strikes again

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1498072266583818241

 

[Dana381]

I watched the announcement on BBC, my jaw hit the floor. The Germans are angry.

Angry or scared?

 

[KevinB]

Angry or scared?

Both - but the voters are more angry than scared.
AND a lot of shame

 

[Remius]

Angry or scared?

Can be both. Sometimes being scared helps channel the anger.

 

[Dana381]

Leadership

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1498224921205481478

There has been a lot off good leadership demonstrated in Ukraine. Mayor's joining the resistance force, the president staying to fight. Never ask/send you subordinates anywhere you are unwilling to go yourself!

 

[Remius]

Zelensky is likely frustrating the hell out of Putin who probably thought he had him figured out.

 

[The Bread Guy]

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1498289020757061632

Honk honk, Russia

 

[KevinB]

Caveat that it's probably a little inflated - but...

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1498259137569902598

 

[Good2Golf]

Anyone else notice that Germany's announcement over the weekend that they are stepping up military spending and are now publicly committing to honour the 2% pledge is getting ZERO coverage here in Canada? Nothing mentioned by any of the mainstream media, no similar calls for Canada to finally start honouring its previously announced commitment as well. And people say that the Canadian media is not in the pockets of a certain political party - stuff like this certainly doesn't help.

Canada had to stop and tie its shoelace…it’ll be back up shortly………

 

[GK .Dundas]

Two things as I have noted elsewhere for unless you have an Ukrainian background the current war might as well be happening on another planet. As KevinB put it, we're at the Mall not the Wall..
And my second point that Remius.raised about about Russians complaining about.protests and the safety of their diplomats.
I would not be too surprised if someone from our diplomatic staff over there got himself a semi official beat down with officially profound apologies of course.

 

[Czech_pivo]

Since when has it been as germany goes as goes Canada?

It doesn't of course - but I'd like to think that it just got a bit harder for Canada to continue to shirk a commitment that it has publically made in the past on a go forward basis.