BinRat55 said:This is a very valid point - I for one have worked for Vern, and never ... NEVER want to get caught with my ass hanging in the wind... You know where the leave pass is, don't you Mike?
geo said:If the CO feels that everyone deserves a full or half day "reward" for good work, that can be used for XMass shopping, he can give a "short".
CountDC said:I have done both in the past (yesterday is the past right?) >
+1CDN Aviator said:I support everyone doing their shopping on their own f*****g time.
MARS said:I agree with Vern re: common practices about blank leave passes. However, I see nothing wrong with that. E.R Campbell told me the following, a long time ago in a galaxy far, far away:
Manager do things right; Leaders do the right thing.
The two are sometimes mutually exclusive, in my opinion. Sometimes it feels like I have too many "managers" working for me and not enough “leaders”. Don't get me wrong, my staff, through doing things "right" have kept me out of jail on multiple occasions, particularly on PF/NPF/COMSEC and CSD matters, but as I rose in rank, I began to realize that sometimes you need to deviate from the regulations to ensure your people are not seen off. I am certainly NOT suggesting that we burn the rule books - most of them are darn good rules, but occasionally, very occasionally, some wiggle room needs to be found. Would I expect my NCOs to do this kind of thing on their own? Not necessarily - I wouldn't put them in that kind of position - it (wilfully deviating from established regulations) is a responsibility that I, as 2nd in Command, accept fully and on my own, as are the subsequent repercussions should something go pear shaped. If that makes me a poor leader, so be it.
My 2 cents
MARS
geo said:Vern.. not a problem with your technicality.
As Pmedmoe proposed... DS solution to that quandary is for the CO to hand out a short, if so deserved to personnel in November... thus leaving those 2+2shorts for Dec/Jan XMass block leave
ArmyVern said:... the boys would STILL be rushing about on Christmas Eve doing last minute shopping ... having utilized their own November short day as an excuse to gather somewhere and drink beer/play hockey/drink more beer ... >
ArmyVern said:the boys would STILL be rushing about on Christmas Eve doing last minute shopping ... having utilized their own November short day as an excuse to gather somewhere and drink beer/play hockey/drink more beer ... >
geo said:But vern... Beer was the 1st XMass gift that the boys would buy.
Then, just to be certain, they would have to do a "quality control" test.... would want 9D to be drinking bad beer at XMass - would you?
geo said:OK... I can quality control that for you ;D
(is that with or without the worm ?)
geo said:Vern... I love the way you think 8)
Just a darned shame that you are in Gagetown & I'm in Montreal
Oh well..... :cheers: