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Sexual Misconduct Allegations in The CAF

Good2Golf

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Do you have the answer to that one question?
The answer’s out there…and who knows…it might not even include old, male, white general/admiral.

Perhaps we’ll see in due course.

Some of us won’t be too surprised. Others may be very surprised. Perhaps shocked. In the end though, toxic is toxic.
 

trigger324

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The answer’s out there…and who knows…it might not even include old, male, white general/admiral.

Perhaps we’ll see in due course.

Some of us won’t be too surprised. Others may be very surprised. Perhaps shocked. In the end though, toxic is toxic.
Right, and those who benefit, as the question was posed, should very well be the victims.
 

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The answer’s out there…and who knows…it might not even include old, male, white general/admiral.

Perhaps we’ll see in due course.

Some of us won’t be too surprised. Others may be very surprised. Perhaps shocked. In the end though, toxic is toxic.

The truth is out there? Really? :)

X Files GIF by The X-Files
 

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Breathe deeply.

D - e -e - e - e - e - p - l - y - y - y . . .

I - i - i - i - i - n - n - n - n . . .

and

O - o - o - o u - u - u - u - t . . .

R - e - e - l - a - a - x - x - x . . .

Doesn't that feel much better now?
 

hattrick72

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Removing oneself from the CoC? Does everybody have that option?
You have two options, you go to mental health and layout why you need MELs and you remove yourself from the CoC, but may well fall within that CoC's responsibility. The second option is you VR and that completely removes you from the CoC. If you VR now, you too can be a part of the transition center.
 

trigger324

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You have two options, you go to mental health and layout why you need MELs and you remove yourself from the CoC, but may well fall within that CoC's responsibility. The second option is you VR and that completely removes you from the CoC. If you VR now, you too can be a part of the transition center.
Right, those options have always have existed, as we all know, but I’ve never seen anyone removed from a CoC outside terminating service. You always answer to someone in one way or another, do you not? That seems to be a CoC to me.
 

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The TC becomes your unit and your CoC. It can be permanent, or temporary depending on the situation.
 

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Right, those options have always have existed, as we all know, but I’ve never seen anyone removed from a CoC outside terminating service. You always answer to someone in one way or another, do you not? That seems to be a CoC to me.
Right. Parsing actions instead of acknowledging actions. LGen Rouleau has resigned. He no longer is part of the CAF CoCfrom a Command construct. He will still be part of a admin CoC until such time as he retires.
 

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All these allegations could have been handled with a couple of meetings and some conversations between the two parties. You know, like how adults solve problems.

Imagine being punished and losing your career for checking in on the well being of a fellow soldier no matter the situation, does that seem fair or just? F the investigation. We all know that nothing would take higher priority than knowing the well being of another soldier potentially in trouble.

This Man asks Vance to go golfing with the intension of making sure he is doing okay, and ends up losing his career. I realize there are some ethical issues due to the investigation, and it could have been done smarter. However, that's how he decided to do it and should just have been moved to clear any bias in the investigation.

What if Vance hung himself over the stress of this situation? People would be strung up for not checking in on him.
 

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I was under the impression that a posting to JPSU or even just going on medical leave takes a while to facilitate.
Medical leave can be fairly quick, sometime arranging for continuing or specialist care not so much
Took me about a 2 weeks from injury to JPSU, has a amazing Adj who got everything rolling quickly
That is super fast and not the norm. It was also likely easier as a Pres mbr as D Mil C did not have to get involved as they are often the slowest point in the process. Other key hang-ups are the medical staff approving JPSSU as a viable option and the units themselves as they need to start the process but are also the lynch pin to keep the ball rolling. Often they lose sight of an application as it bounces from org to org.
 
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