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New light transport for US Special Forces

Kinda looks like him, doesn't it?

Wile-E-Coyote.jpg


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Kinda looks like him, doesn't it?

Wile-E-Coyote.jpg


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For the background trivia freaks....

Acme Corporation​


The company is never clearly defined in Road Runner cartoons but appears to be a conglomerate which produces every product type imaginable, no matter how elaborate or extravagant—most of which never work as desired or expected (some products do work very well, but backfire against the coyote). In the Road Runner cartoon Beep, Beep, it was referred to as "Acme Rocket-Powered Products, Inc." based in Fairfield, New Jersey. Many of its products appear to be produced specifically for Wile E. Coyote; for example, the Acme Giant Rubber Band, subtitled "(For Tripping Road Runners)".

While their products leave much to be desired, Acme delivery service is second to none; Wile E. can merely drop an order into a mailbox (or enter an order on a website, as in the Looney Tunes: Back in Action movie), and have the product in his hands within seconds.

 
Well PZL Mielec is a Lockheed Martin Company.

Small tangent. PZL Mielec got a helicopter contract for H-60 for the Philippines, you know after Trudeau cancelled one from Bell Canada.
 
Well PZL Mielec is a Lockheed Martin Company.

Small tangent. PZL Mielec got a helicopter contract for H-60 for the Philippines, you know after Trudeau cancelled one from Bell Canada.
Technically President Duterte cancelled the order, only after Team Trudeau (which includes his 20-something band of Tweeters in GAC) inferred that the Philippines would use the helicopters to conduct war crimes…
 
Not a Trudeau sycophant, but I am finding it hard to fault a sitting Govt (regardless of political stripes) of being critical of a Major Canadian Corporation willing to sell items that would be used in war crimes. If he was quoted in the National Post instead of on Twitter, would that make it better?
I don't think anyone can deny that President Duterte has not had the best human rights record, and has been known to applaud the overuse of force to keep the upper hand in the national power dynamic.
 
willing to sell items that would be used in war crimes.
The issue is in the words "would" and "could". No one would take issue with opposing selling anything that "would" be used in war crimes. On the other hand, anything - from a cigarette lighter to a length of rope - "could" be used in a war crime.

No one doubts Duterte is a problem. Does that mean we stop all dealings with the Philippines? Our trade with the Philippines exceeds $2 billion - roughly $1 billion export and $1.5 billion import. Our major exports are aerospace products, wood, iron and meat. All of these could in some way be tied to supporting their military in diverse ways and thus "could" be used in war crimes or to support those who commit them. Where does one draw the line between "would" and "could".

The problem here is that government, and this government in particular, draws artificial lines in the sand without adequate proof. Call it virtue signaling if you will, but this government is bent on destroying Canada's arms export capability because it has a Pollyanna view of the world which far too many do not share. This government listens too much to strident special interest groups that equate any conflict with war crimes and usually gloss over the clear terrorist activities conducted by many of these anti-government forces. The Maoists' and Islamists' violent campaigns against the Philippine government existed long before Duterte came to power. In many ways, his election was the people's response to what was happening there.

A policy of supporting human rights is laudable but easily subverted.

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Not a Trudeau sycophant, but I am finding it hard to fault a sitting Govt (regardless of political stripes) of being critical of a Major Canadian Corporation willing to sell items that would be used in war crimes. If he was quoted in the National Post instead of on Twitter, would that make it better?
I don't think anyone can deny that President Duterte has not had the best human rights record, and has been known to applaud the overuse of force to keep the upper hand in the national power dynamic.
It had already cleared ITAR and CGP previously when Bell was working directly with PHI. It was only when Canada Commercial Corp. (CCC) inserted itself into the sales process, delaying the contract, and then the junior staff tweets (Trudeau never himself complained openly about Duterte’s talk about internal security/defence use of the helos…so one actually should ask what controls and guidance is being applied to these junior apparatchiks) about ‘potentially using’ machine guns on citizens, that things went south and the Philippines cancelled the contract. Once things headed for scheiß, then they had to trot out our FM, Champagne, to be professionally affronted on Trudeau’s behalf once Duterte flipped Canada the middle finger.

Ironic, eh, that Chretien didn’t have an issue selling used CAF Bell helicopters to Colombia in the mid-90s…some of the very same helicopters that had been used with weapons for internal security operations in Canada…and let’s not judge the Canadians who had weapons pointing at them from the Canadian Bell helicopters!
 
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