Curious- VRed Twice- Will They Give Me a Third Chance?

[jonez500]

Hi There

I have quite the situation... I'll try to make it as short as possible. I've always wanted to be AVN... Always. It's my dream.
I was in the navy (STWD) once for 9 months fresh out of highschool, got out Voluntary Release. I tried to up my grades in high school at a local adult high school in order to get another kick at the aptitudes test (only qualified for cook and steward). It wasn't sufficient enough to get another chance. I decided to genuinely give STWD a chance. Did my QL3 and a short tour on the Iroquois to Boston. Wasn't for me... I voluntarily released again but this time I decided to go to college and do something I love and dream about. I'm currently in my second year Aircraft Maintenance Engineer Program and I'm interested in potentially applying again. Some may say my odds are slim but I'm am determined to do everything in my power to at least TRY. So I've been told from my local RC that an education waiver MAY be in my favour at this point. Has anyone gone through this? I know that an education waiver has been something that people here have spoke about but I havent been able to find one regarding the Apt test. I'm doing VERY well in school and I'm looking forward to graduating but I hope that this isn't the end of the road for my military career. The aptitudes test is what gets me every time! Am I crazy for thinking that an education waiver might work out for me? Is it crazy for me to think that I may still have a shot?
One Goal. I've been chasing for 3 years... I can do this.

 

[Ex-Dragoon]

So you were a Steward twice and VRed twice?

 

[jonez500]

Thats correct

 

[Sizzle709]

You might get a 3rd chance.

Try to study properly for the CFAT, work on your math, play with legos and read the dictionary.

 

[Ex-Dragoon]

The CF is not obligated to give this person a 3rd chance. For whatever circumstances exist he/she have demonstrated that they unreliable by not sticking out. My advice to the OP is contact your CFRC explain your circumstances but don't be surprised if they deny your application. Good luck!

 

[MAJONES]

When I was in recruiting an education waiver was granted if someones academics weren't quite up to snuff, (i.e. didn't have grade ten math), but there were compelling reasons to enroll them.  At that time you could not get a waiver for a CFAT score.  This was 6 years ago and may have changed.  The best person to ask is the personel selection officer (PSO) at the CFRC.

 

[Jarnhamar]

If you've already joined and quit twice why not let someone else who hasn't had a chance yet take a spot in the CF?

What's to say you won't quit again? 

 

[MusclesGlasses]

If you've already joined and quit twice why not let someone else who hasn't had a chance yet take a spot in the CF?

What's to say you won't quit again?

What's to say he will? The pessimism and negativity of some people on these forums astounds me sometimes.

At the end of the day, whether or not the OP attempts to rejoin is between him/herself and the recruiting office they deal with, no-one else.

Cheers

 

[Jarnhamar]

What's to say he will? The pessimism and negativity of some people on these forums astounds me sometimes.

At the end of the day, whether or not the OP attempts to rejoin is between him/herself and the recruiting office they deal with, no-one else.

Cheers

What you consider pessimism I call pragmatic.  Many members here are jumping through hoop after hoop after hoop to try out for their first chance at the Canadian Forces.

He's tried it and quit twice already. The OP needs to examine his thoughts and take a soul searching look at whether or not he will just quit again and waste everyone's time.

You can rub his back and give him the ol one two three believe in yourself!
I'll question his resolve.

He's asking a question only the recruiters can answer on an open forum on the internet- it comes with the territory.

 

[PuckChaser]

At the end of the day, whether or not the OP attempts to rejoin is between him/herself and the recruiting office they deal with, no-one else.

If the OP didn't want negative feedback, maybe he should have put it in the thread title. That way, we won't hurt his feelings by telling him the truth that he's got a huge hill to climb to prove to a recruiter that he should get a third shot. There's lots of people that are waiting in line for their shot, and he's thrown away a career twice. To me, he'd be in the back of the line.

 

[DAA]

What's to say he will? The pessimism and negativity of some people on these forums astounds me sometimes.

At the end of the day, whether or not the OP attempts to rejoin is between him/herself and the recruiting office they deal with, no-one else.

Cheers

It's an "open" forum so you best get used to it!  And on the brighter side of life........

If you have already written the CFAT twice, you may not be allowed to do it a third time, until you have finished your current academic endeavours.....

 

[MusclesGlasses]

It's an "open" forum so you best get used to it!

Exactly, and my opinion had every right to be expressed on this open form, just like the OP has every right to attempt a third application.

Cheers

 

[DAA]

Exactly, and my opinion had every right to be expressed on this open form, just like the OP has every right to attempt a third application.

Cheers

You have every right to expres your opinion here on this forum but when it comes to the aspects of a "third application", you have NO right for a third rewrite and whether or not your "request" is entertained, will be determined by the CFRC your dealing with.  As a matter of fact, it is not even within their control......

 

[lee465]

Over the past summer, I frequented the recruiting centre in Hamilton and talked to very encouraging recruiters, young and old. I was having a lot of difficulty narrowing down my choices (I was interested in at least 4 or 5 different officer positions as well as NCM position in both Navy and the Army). The best advice that I received from a captain of the RCAF was to never settle down for something you don't want. Applying is a career choice, a life choice, as well as an investment in time and money from both you and the CF. I'd say go for what you want, but hope for the best and expect the worst. Writing the CFAT for the third time is a privilege (writing my first CFAT this Thursday), not a right. That being said, you do have your rights to pursue your dreams and best of luck to you.

 

[MusclesGlasses]

You have every right to expres your opinion here on this forum but when it comes to the aspects of a "third application", you have NO right for a third rewrite and whether or not your "request" is entertained, will be determined by the CFRC your dealing with.  As a matter of fact, it is not even within their control......

Didn't say he/she had the right to a third rewrite, I said they have the right to attempt a third application. Big difference.

Cheers

 

[DAA]

Didn't say he/she had the right to a third rewrite, I said they have the right to attempt a third application. Big difference.

Cheers

The first rule of recruiting is "Every Canadian Citizen has the right to make application".....you can make as many as you want and the first application is married up with the second, third, fourth, etc....what happens with it after it is received is another story.  So when you apply the first time around, write the CFAT, do an interview, etc, all that carries over to each and every application after that.  So in summary, there is no such thing as "starting over new"...hence, there is no "third application".  If you submit another application, all that happens is your OLD file from your first application is "re-opened".....

 

[Tank Troll]

Ummmmmm Don't see any where that the OP did a SECOND write of the CFAT ask to do it but was denied.

 

[2 Cdo]

I know that if I was working in recruiting his application would get all the attention it needs but only AFTER everything else was done for the day including refilling the coffee maker and personal PT.  8)

Twice he enrolled and twice he quit, I'm detecting a distinct pattern.

 

[DAA]

Ummmmmm Don't see any where that the OP did a SECOND write of the CFAT ask to do it but was denied.

I looked at the original post again today and I think your right!  I misunderstood what the OP was saying regarding the CFAT.  Seems strange that they would not allow him to "rewrite" a second time to try and increase his scores but rather just go and re-enrol him back into the original occupation from the first time around.

Things that make you go....Hmmmmmmmm

 

[Tank Troll]

:nod: Yes it does. Apparently he didn't do enough up grading to warrant a rewrite.