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aesop081

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Danno1 said:
The theme of this thread seems to be that all trades can be deployed, and it's not easy to predict.

That is correct. It is not difficult to predict. It is near impossible. Take 2011 for me. I was deployed overseas 3 times on actual operations. One of them was OP MOBILE, i got 3 hours notice for that one. You can't predict stuff like that (we deployed with around a dozen different trades in my unit alone) regardless of trade or current unit.
 

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3 hours notice?? LMAO! thanks for the heads up...  :D

From my enrollment experience, the NCM and Officer trades are two completely different files as are the NCM-SEP vs the direct entry trades.  Other than perhaps a paperwork nightmare I'm not sure why they don't allow more than one file to be opened.  (Apparently I could not open a new NCM -SEP file with my direct entry trade file open BUT I was able to send in my ROTP questionnaire and therefore open a second file in this case - that being said, my direct entry file was complete already and I was on the merit list.  Not sure if that had a bearing on it or not) 
 

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Diamondwillow said:
3 hours notice?? LMAO! thanks for the heads up...  :D

That is definitely a possibility, depending on your trade.  Same goes with unexpected deployment extensions, change of postings, etc....
 

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Dimsum said:
That is definitely a possibility, depending on your trade.  Same goes with unexpected deployment extensions, change of postings, etc....


Alrighty then - definitely keeps one on their toes... I like that ... lol until it happens to me ... then I'm sure it will seem *inconvenient*  ;)
 

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Hey Ghost, glad you're still around to post this  :warstory:

I submitted my application for MARS, and want that or the NCM Naval trades of NES, NCI, or Sonar Op, in that order. I expect to be deployed consistently, but this is what I want to do with my life.

It was frustrating that on the application you could only choose either 3 Officer jobs, or 3 NCM jobs, as opposed to a mix. I have no interest in any Officer position other than MARS, but am interested in 3 other NCM Naval jobs, which I could not select. Does anyone know why they use this method?

The theme of this thread seems to be that all trades can be deployed, and it's not easy to predict. Ghost, your post seems to go against that, implying that you expect some trades to be deployed more than others.

Can you elaborate?

If the is the overall message you got from my post, I apologize as it is incorrect. All jobs go out the door. Does every trade go for 6mons to the 'dangerous' frontlines of the Gan? No. The navy goes seaside a lot, the airforce seems to go everywhere. On the flipside, say you aren't deployed, then you can be put on career courses that last a few weeks to a few months or exercizes of the same type of duration.

From MY experience, as an infanteer, here's what I can recall for time away from home or deployment.

-Every 2-3 mon was a 2-3wk training ex where I was in the boonies. If you were lucky, didn't get jacked up, and were not in a tactical ex, you could trudge up to the top of a hill for a 15min cell call (assuming you have a cell tower nearby)
-Twice a year was a PCF cycle where you get to leave a little earlier and son some days, stay later. The course would run about a month. Mine were all on base so I got to go home. Some courses are elsewhere so you will be away for that month.
-A 6month deployment to the Gan. I had snail mail and email but I am informed that those at the front now (in FOBs) don't have those luxuries all the time. Email for an hour every 2-4wks and snailmail that arrive via supply delivery every few days. The workup training can mean 6-12mon before you go overseas, you are on early mornings/late evening or frequent ex's too (again, this info is from '08 so I don't know if they have improved that family stresser or not)
-The occasional bugout where you are called in at 3am

Now from what I know:
-Some trades and positions can be on 3hr/24hr/3d/1wk notice to move meaning they can be deployed away with only that much notice given. Sometimes, regular units and positions can be put on this length of notice in a time of need. My unit was on 24hrs notice when MB was flooding, as an example.
-The higher up you go in your trade, more specialised courses are available to you. Unfortunately, these courses frequently require you to go away for a period of time to take them. Usually the courses offered when you are an FNG are offered at or near your place of work.

My closing opinion about your original predicament:
Yes, the job can be stressful for a family. What I have seen around my unit (again, infantry) is the real successful marriages involve the member and a really strong spouse who can take goto work, take the kids to school, shop for groceries and clean all by themselves. I believe they stay in their union b/c the genuinely love the member and enjoy being a part of something bigger. The great thing about 'army spouses' is that there are a lot of them and while you are at work working admidst your tight-knit briotherhood, the spouses have their own form of tight-knit comraderie that mutually supports oneanother. I look at some of my comrades' wives and admire how strong they are. They may not have all started off being that strong of a person, but their experiences and efforts make them into those people who I admire today.

I realise this may be a lot of information. I understand it may also bring up more questions. The military is like any job out there. Do you wish to commit to the job? Does your significant other wish to commit to you and your endeavor in achieving this goal? You could be in any other job and it may take you from home, put you in danger, or occupy a lot of your life at random times. Your spouse will have to deal with them too. Policemen, firefighteres, corporate CEO, scientist, even Greenpeace activist. That's the joy of being tied to another person these days.
 

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I'm posted to Edmonton HQ&Sigs as a 1.1 qualified LSS. Any thoughts on if I will make it over to Afghanistan... And when?
 

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CDNLMN said:
I'm posted to Edmonton HQ&Sigs as a 1.1 qualified LSS. Any thoughts on if I will make it over to Afghanistan... And when?

LFWA has 1 roto left for Op Attention, and unless we extend the mission that's your last kick at the cat. I haven't seen any other line types over here, except for in the Signals School mentor team and they're all MCpls and above.
 

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Thanks Puck Chaser.

... And Frank - if you weren't just a civi troll you'd know that good soldiers help the new ones out. I'm new enough I don't know which brigade is on which roto - but I knew someone would be able to provide a helpful answer.

Out to you.
 

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Your question was not "Does 1 CMBG have one more deployment in line before the end of Op Attention" your question was "what are your thoughts on me getting a tour in Afghanistan". You were asking for an opinion in relation to you, not the brigade's deployment. For all you know, since you only registered to this site today, this site is only visited by a bunch of civi trolls. Thankfully for you, it's not, but it isn't an official Government of Canada website. Instead of trying to get opinions from a bunch of strangers on a website, see your Sect Comd.
 

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Frank it was just a question he had maybe someone might have info, as a civy I don't think you have a right to reply like you are working in Ottawa and know it all.  :blotto:
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I thought they are bringing everyone back from Afghanistan?

You thought wrong,  the current training mission (Op Attention) is running till 2014.

The combat mission and close out tour recently ended though.
 

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Gulruthina said:
I thought they are bringing everyone back from Afghanistan?

They are?! Well maybe I should get back on the plane and fly home then...
 

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Oh crap  [yells] Jammer, get off the plane man.  We are not there anymore!![/yells]
 

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I am joining the military as a infantry soldier and I have always wanted to go to Afghanistan. As crazy as that sounds to some people its been my dream to go over there and fight for our country. But I know some people who are Canadian who have gone to the U.S.A military and fought in Afghanistan for the U.S.A instead of there home country. Which I think is wrong but hey its their life they can do what they want.

What my question is, is what are the chances of me being Deployed to Afghanistan to fight for our country in the Canadian Forces ? or would I have a better chance being deployed to Afghanistan in the U.S.A military ?
 
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MikeL

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The combat mission ended recently and the training mission is going until 2014.  Unless the mission gets extended and goes back to a combat mission your chances of deploying and fighting are pretty much 0.

You can not just go to the US and join their Military.. you need a green card or citizenship.  No, the Military can not sponser you for that, an immediate family member who is a US citizen(or green card?) must sponser you.  No sponser, you are SOL.


How old are you by the way?
 

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Ok thanks, is there any other deployments that we are in at the moment ? I know of some but are they all like combat or ?
 
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