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CDN/US Covid-related political discussion

OceanBonfire

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I'm also getting frustrated of those who keep the virus circulating around. Guess how preventing idiots from spreading the virus works in France:

 

Colin Parkinson

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France has vaccinated about 61% of it's population, so Canada is actually doing better in that regards.

rant mode on As for doctors, perhaps they can wean themselves off of a billing cycle that rat racing from patient to patient, over the last year and bit of dealing with my daughters health has not helped my opinion of many doctors. Funny enough the doctors I like best are ones that immigrated here and have a totally different patient-doctor dynamic. rant mode off
 

The Bread Guy

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rant mode on As for doctors, perhaps they can wean themselves off of a billing cycle that rat racing from patient to patient, over the last year and bit of dealing with my daughters health has not helped my opinion of many doctors. Funny enough the doctors I like best are ones that immigrated here and have a totally different patient-doctor dynamic. rant mode off
Paying them piece work leads to this :cry: I've had my primary care from nurse practitioners since my family doc died many years ago, and all 4 I've had have been great: accessible, not tied to the "conveyor belt" model (appointments are 30 or 60 minutes) and can hook up with docs/specialists as needed. Also had great service from PA's in emerg, too.
 

Remius

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Paying them piece work leads to this :cry: I've had my primary care from nurse practitioners since my family doc died many years ago, and all 4 I've had have been great: accessible, not tied to the "conveyor belt" model (appointments are 30 or 60 minutes) and can hook up with docs/specialists as needed. Also had great service from PA's in emerg, too.
In another lifetime my wife used to be an RN. Back when nurses were being cut. She worked at an apple tree clinic and the Doctor that ran it was all about volume and quantity over quality care. When he was asking how they could improve she told him that it was a problem when patients were still discussing their issues with him as he ushered them out. Not saying it’s still like that but I have no doubt that things haven’t Improved much.
 

FJAG

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In another lifetime my wife used to be an RN. Back when nurses were being cut. She worked at an apple tree clinic and the Doctor that ran it was all about volume and quantity over quality care. When he was asking how they could improve she told him that it was a problem when patients were still discussing their issues with him as he ushered them out. Not saying it’s still like that but I have no doubt that things haven’t Improved much.
This is why people go to naturopaths. Listening to the patient is part and parcel to the process. The super diluted medicine given to them is worthless but at least the patient feels that they've been listened to.

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Fishbone Jones

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I wonder, if hospitals didn't receive extra funding for covid patients and deaths, if some numbers would change dramatically? I'm still of the mind that covid numbers should be counted by hospital admissions, not cases based on test results. Thousands of people will test positive with no ill effects. Those numbers should not be used to lock us down or impose restrictions on us arbitrarily. Especially notwithstanding the efficacy of some of the tests.
 

brihard

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I wonder, if hospitals didn't receive extra funding for covid patients and deaths, if some numbers would change dramatically? I'm still of the mind that covid numbers should be counted by hospital admissions, not cases based on test results. Thousands of people will test positive with no ill effects. Those numbers should not be used to lock us down or impose restrictions on us arbitrarily. Especially notwithstanding the efficacy of some of the tests.
Covid patients are vastly more expensive based on longevity of hospital admissions.


Are hospitals receiving disproportionately more money, or does the alleged extra funding get eaten up in expenses? Is it offset by all the forced overtime the medical staff are running?
 
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