• Thanks for stopping by. Logging in to a registered account will remove all generic ads. Please reach out with any questions or concerns.

Canadian Federal Election 44 - Sep 2021

Altair

Army.ca Veteran
Reaction score
517
Points
910
Food for though on FPTP

Liberals needed 10 more seats to hit 170.

1
Charleswood-St. James-Assiniboia-Headingley

CPC 17,336-LPC 17,312=34

2
NL
Coast of Bays-Central-Notre Dame

CPC 14,925-LPC 14,661= 264

3
Châteauguay-Lacolle

BQ 18,368-LPC 17,762=602

4
King-Vaughan

CPC 22,529-LPC 21,457=1022

5
Longueuil-Saint-Hubert

BQ 23,579-LPC 21,930=1,649

6
South Surrey-White Rock

CPC 24,176-LPC 22,164=2,012

7
Edmonton Mill Woods

CPC 18,248- LPC 16,499=1,749

8
South Shore-St. Margarets

CPC 20,444- LPC 18,527=1,917

9
Peterborough-Kawartha

CPC 27,301-LPC 24,564=2,737

10
Niagara Falls

CPC 23,650-LPC 23,650=3,160

34+264+602+1,022+1,649 +2,012+1,749+1,917 +2,737+3,160= 15,146 to tie the winner of these riding. 1 more each to win it.

15156 votes away from 170 seats. All the LPC technically needed was their percentage of the popular vote to go from 32.6 to 32.7 and they are in government for 4 years. And don't think for a second the LPC doesn't know this. They will be targeting these ridings with everything they have next election.

FPTP. Fair. Ha.
 
Last edited:

McG

Army.ca Legend
Reaction score
247
Points
680
FPTP is the most fair, in that it gives every candidate the same theoretical chance of election out of the gate.
Should “fair” be measured from the perspective of candidates competing for office, or from the perspective of voters who want to be represented in parliament?
 

ModlrMike

Army.ca Veteran
Subscriber
Donor
Reaction score
506
Points
960
I would think the two are the same, if measured from "could" be represented perspective.
 

Altair

Army.ca Veteran
Reaction score
517
Points
910

New seats!

Fun!

I know Alberta is due to get more, lets see how the rest break down
So Alberta gets 3 more seats, Ontario gets 1, BC gets 1,Quebec loses 1.

So

ON-122

QC-77

BC-43

AB-37

MB-14

SK-14

NS-11

NB-10

NL-7

PE-4

YK-1

NT-1

NV-1

Total=342
 

Altair

Army.ca Veteran
Reaction score
517
Points
910

For many, the election result would have provided more satisfaction had it been under a different seat allocation method. When shown the seat distribution under first-past-the-post (FPTP) proportional representation (PR) systems, three-in-five (61%) say they preferred the hypothetical makeup of the House under the latter.


Although a majority of Canadians (61%) would prefer the outcome of the 2021 election were it held under a proportional representation system, there are clear partisan differences. A majority of Liberal (70%) and Bloc Québécois (55%) supporters say they prefer the current seat distribution, compared with eight-in-ten CPC (78%) and NDP (80%) voters who say they prefer the opposite.

3 of 5 Canadians like PR more than FPTP and that's just with a binary FPTP vs PR and not a better system like MMP which merges the two.

But let's stick with FPTP. Why not.
 

The Bread Guy

Moderator
Staff member
Directing Staff
Subscriber
Donor
Reaction score
282
Points
1,130
3 of 5 Canadians like PR more than FPTP ....
Based on Angus Reid, 3 out of 5 would have liked the results the other system would have led to, not necessarily the other system.

People wanting a different result =/= people wanting a different way of doing things. I notice the question "what system of election do you prefer?" wasn't asked on this round.

Although the 3/5 want a different mix speaks volumes.
 

Altair

Army.ca Veteran
Reaction score
517
Points
910
Based on Angus Reid, 3 out of 5 would have liked the results the other system would have led to, not necessarily the other system.

People wanting a different result =/= people wanting a different way of doing things. I notice the question "what system of election do you prefer?" wasn't asked on this round.

Although the 3/5 want a different mix speaks volumes.
A fair point.

As you said though, 3/5 liking the results of PR does speak volumes.
 
Top