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BC Murders / MB Manhunt of Kam McLeod and Bryer Schmegelsky

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Humphrey Bogart said:
Supposedly Schmegelsky has over 500 hours clocked playing the video game RUST.

The game essentially revolves around being dropped off naked in the woods somewhere and then scavenging for water, food, shelter and equipment.  It is a multiplayer game and other players try and steal your stuff with WHATEVER MEANS NECESSARY.

Should we be concerned that you seem to know a little too much about that game HB? :)
 

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milnews.ca said:

The publicly available BC Court Services Online tells a different story of dad then the one he tells about himself. I only searched Victoria Provincial Court (as I understand he has lived in other jurisdictions) but I came up with a lot of results over a number of years for criminal harassment and breaches of court ordered conditions of various sorts. It seems the guy can't leave things well enough alone. Multiple convictions for crim harassment is enough to raise my eyebrows, as it can be a hard charge to prove and Crowns are often unwilling to move forward with it here.
 

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Humphrey Bogart said:
Supposedly Schmegelsky has over 500 hours clocked playing the video game RUST.

The game essentially revolves around being dropped off naked in the woods somewhere and then scavenging for water, food, shelter and equipment.  It is a multiplayer game and other players try and steal your stuff with WHATEVER MEANS NECESSARY.

I own the game, played exactly one hour and could only find a measly rock before some 12 year old with an AK47 gunned me down and laughed in to my computer speakers. 

;D
 

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An Aurora is now supporting the search.  IMO, this was the right asset to bring into the fold.  If the 2 suspects are watching, this outta change their sense of 'freedom of movement' some.

Good hunting to the crews!!

Updated: July 29, 2019 2:29 pm

The Canadian Forces has deployed a C-130H Hercules and a CP-140 Aurora aircraft to aid in the search. One aircraft, the Aurora, is equipped with infrared camera and imaging radar systems.

Global News Article Link

 

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Humphrey Bogart said:
I own the game, played exactly one hour and could only find a measly rock before some 12 year old with an AK47 gunned me down and laughed in to my computer speakers. 

;D

And that's when I realized I was better suited for the Navy.
 

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Bruce Monkhouse said:
And that's when I realized I was better suited for the Navy.

:rofl:

I am a mean Rocket League player though! 
 

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The suspects were stopped by a safety officer before the manhunt kicked off.

https://www.foxnews.com/world/canada-murder-suspects-were-stopped-by-constables-let-go-before-manhunt-announced-official-says
 

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Via CBC.ca
The Canadian military is pulling out of the hunt for two B.C. fugitives in northern Manitoba as the search in the area stretches into its ninth day.

The police force decided Wednesday morning that they no longer needed military assistance, RCMP Insp. Kevin Lewis told reporters.

"At this point in time … we want to again be focused with our own resources and determine where we should go from here," Lewis said.

Ground and air searches will continue in the area around Gillam, Man., the last place Bryer Schmegelsky and Kam McLeod were confirmed to have been seen.

Police officers in the area are now down to 40 members (police numbers at the height of the search were never disclosed). The RCMP also said they will be returning to Fox Lake Cree Nation, where they have previously done door-to-door searches ...
 

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The US border with Canada is on alert should the killers try to cross. For two untrained teens they have either been very lucky to escape arrest. It may be a tactic to make the bad guys think that the RCMP have given up, but its possible that the lads are dead.
 

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A bit more detail from the RCMP in MB:
Statement from the Assistant Commissioner Jane MacLatchy on the reduction of resources deployed in the Gillam area

July 31, 2019
Winnipeg, Manitoba


Statement

On behalf of every member of the RCMP in Manitoba, I want to offer my condolences to the families and friends of the victims of the homicides in British Columbia.

On the afternoon of July 23rd, the Manitoba RCMP became aware that two murder suspects from BC could be in our Province.

As you all know, a vehicle had been found burnt - out in a remote area, approximately 40 km kilometers from Gillam and close to Fox Lake Cree Nation. It was later established that this vehicle was indeed the vehicle the suspects had been driving.

Manitoba RCMP responded immediately, deploying front-line and tactical officers, police dogs, forensic identification specialists and Major Crime investigators to the Gillam area.

An RCMP plane with infrared capabilities was also deployed and conducted an aerial search of the area that same evening.

Over the last week, we have done everything we can to locate the suspects.

Using RCMP and Royal Canadian Air Force assets, we searched approximately 11,000 square kilometres in northern Manitoba.

We canvassed every home and searched every abandoned building in Gillam and Fox Lake Cree Nation. This equals to over 500 homes and buildings.

We searched rail lines, hydro corridors, lakes, rivers, vast areas of tundra and muskeg, dense forests and brush.

We conducted exhaustive searches on foot, with dogs and with all-terrain vehicles. We used boats on lakes and searched from the air with drones, helicopters and planes.

We used some of the most advanced technologies available and received assistance from some of the most highly skilled search and rescue personnel in the country.

In addition, over 250 tips were received and followed-up on.

RCMP and RCAF personnel have logged thousands of hours, working 24/7, during this search for the suspects.

However, even with this extraordinary effort, we have not had any confirmed sightings of the suspects since the burned vehicle was located.

Taking into account all of the work so far, it has come time to re-assess our deployment of resources to the area.

Over the next week, the RCMP will begin to scale down the search efforts in northern Manitoba.

This will include the phased withdrawal of the majority of specialized RCMP and RCAF personnel and assets over the coming week.

To be clear, we're not ending the search – a number of tactical resources and specialized assets will remain positioned in the Gillam area and will continue with the efforts to locate the murder suspects.

In addition, all of our resources will be ready to respond to the region as required should new information emerge.

We have also received assurances that the RCAF will be ready to assist us if needed.

I know that today's news is not what the families of the victims and the communities of northern Manitoba wanted to hear.

But when searching for people in vast, remote and rugged locations, it is always a possibility that they are not immediately located.

The terrain in northern Manitoba is immense and unforgiving. The weather is often unpredictable.

Additionally, there remains a possibility that the suspects had some sort of assistance to flee the area. This of course is still an area of consideration for the RCMP.

We continue to encourage the public to be on the lookout for these two suspects and to continue to submit tips. Something that may seem insignificant to you may be extremely valuable to our officers.

If you have information or if you believe you see the suspects, please contact your local police immediately.

As the search begins to scale down in the area, I want to thank the communities of Gillam, Fox Lake Cree Nation and York Landing for their incredible support and the resiliency they've demonstrated over the last week.

You have shown incredible strength and courage during a time of uncertainty. You came together and looked out for one and other.

I applaud you, and thank you for all the help you have provided to our officers during these challenging times.

I also want to assure you that our officers will still have a presence in the area and will be there for you. Do not hesitate for a moment to reach out to us if you need any help.

To the officers involved in the ongoing search efforts; you exemplify the professionalism and dedication that Canadians know they can expect from the Royal Canadian Mounted Police.

Through difficult terrain, voracious bugs, all night shifts, and knowing you could be confronted by a dangerous fugitive at any moment, you never wavered in your duty, and I am incredibly proud of you all.

I would also like to thank the RCAF and RCMP Divisions from across the country who supplied incredible support to Manitoba over the last week.

While the search in northern Manitoba is being scaled down, it is not over, not by any means.

I want to assure everyone that the RCMP is continuing to work on this investigation and will not stop until there is a resolution.

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tomahawk6 said:
The US border with Canada is on alert should the killers try to cross. For two untrained teens they have either been very lucky to escape arrest. It may be a tactic to make the bad guys think that the RCMP have given up, but its possible that the lads are dead.

Lucky for sure.  I don’t think they are that bright.

They got stopped once and lucked out.  They were helped by locals after getting stuck in the muck.  Again luck and timing.  The only thing they did “right” was get the hell out of B.C. as fast as they could to get a solid head start.  If they aren’t already dead or dying they will slip up again.
 

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milnews.ca said:

The Mounties always get their man...


“Thanks to the vigilance of Major Irvine and the energy of Captain Winder, of the N.W. Mounted Police, another attempt to smuggle whiskey has been frustrated by the arrest of three men, who were tried, found guilty and sentenced to pay a fine of five hundred dollars each or be imprisoned for the minor period of six months. They preferred the former. Horses were sacrificed for the arrest, but the M.P.’s are worse than bloodhounds when they scent the track of a smuggler, and they fetch their men every time.”

https://www.rcinet.ca/en/2015/04/13/history-april-13-the-rcmp-always-get-their-man/
 

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Reminds me of the "Mantracker" TV show.
 

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I didnt know there was rail service in the area and maybe thats how they have escaped the search.

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tomahawk6 said:
I didnt know there was rail service in the area ...
The line is there, but the service is once every few days, though, not daily - I stand to be corrected, but I don't think there's scheduled stops between Winnipeg and Churchill, either.  If that's the case, they'd have to hop on a quickly-moving train - although who knows what these guys'll try, right?
 

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milnews.ca said:
The line is there, but the service is once every few days, though, not daily - I stand to be corrected, but I don't think there's scheduled stops between Winnipeg and Churchill, either.  If that's the case, they'd have to hop on a quickly-moving train - although who knows what these guys'll try, right?

There are stops at each little hamlet from The Pas to Churchill and this is far far from a quickly moving train.
 

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FSTO said:
There are stops at each little hamlet from The Pas to Churchill and this is far far from a quickly moving train.
Less unlikely, then - thanks for that.
 

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FSTO said:
There are stops at each little hamlet from The Pas to Churchill and this is far far from a quickly moving train.

Is it a traditional via or via esque type train?

If so.. sometimes.. they leave doors open on their trains and security is not very tight at all.. that they could have boarded the VIA at a station and exited easy enough. If we are pursuing the escape by train scenario.. well even if it was all locked up.. you can buy the keys easy enough to get on/in and lots of youtube channels exist on how to train hop.

If it was a freight train.. to easy to jump on and go and if their is freight service out of there.. assuming they had the brains they could have jumped on a freight train and exited easy enough. I'm guessing trains are not or were not getting searched. Roll outs by train crews can very easily miss a couple dedicated people trying to hide.

This imo could be a more likely scenario.. then them evading the rcmp and caf for a week in the woods... but yeah.. thats my arm chairing for the day.

Abdullah
 

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The passenger trains were being searched, but I don't have any context as to how thoroughly...I just saw a few pictures in news articles.
 

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I know that Canada is different from Alasa but the Alaska RR runs between Fairbanks and Anchorage and they will stop for hitchhikers and people living in the bush.
 
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