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All things Novel Coronavirus (2019-nCoV)

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The thing about scientists is that they do not fall into two exact camps: those who are correct about everything they claim, and those who are incorrect. More typically, each holds a mix of correct and incorrect views. Correctly-held views are not proof of infallibility; incorrectly held views are not proof of uniform error.
Its almost like they use a concurrence model to come up with scientific fact. Many voices agreeing and disagreeing. Like that 1 dentist that doesn't agree chewing Trident gum helps prevent cavities.

Amazing that you can have dissent without it negating the many other opinions countering it.
 

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About positives and false positives, a fairly simple explanation/example of what effect the latter have is here. Just the sections "Anatomy of a Test" and "How Accurate Is The Test?" should be enough.
 

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I've spent 6 yrs of my life in academia (BEng, MSc) and it looks just like most professor's offices that I have been in. What's your point?
Some people organize their office space to present an image of accomplishment or competency. Sometimes it's to demand respect. Candy dishes and family photos often impart hang around a while, flimsy or uncomfortable chairs, and files all over mean don't. That kind of stuff.

I found it interesting in her office that it looked like she stacked specific books on a dresser in the camera view but had others shoved in her bookcase. I wonder what those books were supposed to impart to the viewer if anything. Then again sometimes a cigar is just a cigar, right?

Regardless, I thought the video QV posted was interesting and I've watched it a couple of times. Ethics should be a huge topic.

  • A savage cultural practice hotline is bad - calling the police on your neighbors for covid concerns is good.
  • Politicians talk about following public health restrictions and supporting social distancing while they're on vacations down south.
  • The WHO looking like a big lapdog for China - our chief public health officer of Canada saying travel restrictions are racist.
  • People getting fines for walking their dog while the PM is getting photo ops in BLM protests.
  • Panic porn, especially in North America.
  • Doctors are experts and should be listened to (Tam) unless they're going against the grain (Conly).
  • Government using Covid to advance its agenda and try to shrug off parliamentary oversight.
 
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As a bit of a distraction the effects of this pandemic will affect us for a long time to come. If the restrictions were magically lifted tomorrow I do not think we'd go back to what we were pre pandemic at least not short term.
The Great Depression and its effects are still with us today over 100 years later.
 

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As a bit of a distraction the effects of this pandemic will affect us for a long time to come. If the restrictions were magically lifted tomorrow I do not think we'd go back to what we were pre pandemic at least not short term.
The Great Depression and its effects are still with us today over 100 years later.
We had a town hall today at work and if and when we go back we were told we will not be going back to a pre pandemic work model.
 

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As a bit of a distraction the effects of this pandemic will affect us for a long time to come. If the restrictions were magically lifted tomorrow I do not think we'd go back to what we were pre pandemic at least not short term.
The Great Depression and its effects are still with us today over 100 years later.
I'm not giving up my mask anytime soon....
 

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I'm not giving up my mask anytime soon....
I can hardly wait to ditch them - I do have some just in case. |I will wear them in businesses that ask to wear them.
Social distancing will be with us for a long time as will hand sanitizer etc and a paranoid obsession with cleanliness - which has been shown to weaken our immune systems. We do need a few germs to train the immune system.
 

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I look forward to seeing each other again! I also think that we should not come to work when we have symptoms of a communicable disease. Easier said by me in the public sector. So perhaps we will adopt the wearing of masks when we feel a cold coming as something normal?
 

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When my wife was in emergency the other day, she had a lady beside her in agony from pains in the legs. The son said it started shortly after her vaccination and this was the 4th day, no information on which one though.
 

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I haven't read the Lancet article but from what I have read false positive must invariably be due to contamination. The false negatives have been an issue since the start due to the different variants and the small amount of DNA to be amplified (I believe it is only 25 bases long section coding for the spike protein).
 

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When my wife was in emergency the other day, she had a lady beside her in agony from pains in the legs. The son said it started shortly after her vaccination and this was the 4th day, no information on which one though.

I've gotten a number of vaccines over the years for tours and stuff and have never really heard of anyone having side effects. A number of people I know have gotten their 2nd moderna dose and it's dummied them for a few days.
 

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My arm felt like I’d been hit by a truck. Could barely raise it above elbow height. Lasted the night then was fine in the morning. Was Pfizer.
 

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My arm felt like I’d been hit by a truck. Could barely raise it above elbow height. Lasted the night then was fine in the morning. Was Pfizer.
I've had all the childhood and post-retirement vaccinations. As well as the mandated ones, including flu, during my working years.

Got AZ #1 on 23 March. No side effects at all.

Except the one you mentioned. Felt like she used a Louisville Slugger on my left shoulder.

My mother and wife said they had no side effects, or shoulder pain.

Guess I can tolerate anything. Except pain. :)

I look forward to seeing each other again!
I look forward to our next pensioners luncheon. On the other hand, it will be sad when we pause to remember those we will not be seeing again.

We will also pause remember the First Responders who remained on street operations around the clock, while we stayed safe at home.
 

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Well let’s all hope Dr. Byram Bridle is wrong with what he states on On Point with Alex Pierson. The discussion starts 1:20 in.

 

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Well let’s all hope Dr. Byram Bridle is wrong with what he states on On Point with Alex Pierson. The discussion starts 1:20 in.

So basically the same as almost any medication you see advertised on American TV
 

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Long said Vietnam would soon publish genome data of the newly identified variant, which he said was more transmissible than the previously known types.

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Son of a... ARGH!
 

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So basically the same as almost any medication you see advertised on American TV
I’ve never heard the statement “we made a big mistake” with the use of Tylenol or the shingles vaccine, but hey if that is how you understand what he’s saying have at it.

I’m not going to argue with any of you the merits of Dr. Bridle‘s findings. I’ve simply presented new information from a credentialed source. Do what you want with it.
 

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I’ve never heard the statement “we made a big mistake” with the use of Tylenol or the shingles vaccine, but hey if that is how you understand what he’s saying have at it.

I’m not going to argue with any of you the merits of Dr. Bridle‘s findings. I’ve simply presented new information from a credentialed source. Do what you want with it.
It’s making the media rounds but they have yet to see if there is a direct link due to the numbers of teens and young adults getting vaccines. So they aren’t sure if it is a coincidence or not at this time. And it seems the numbers are quite low for now. And the inflammations are minor in nature.
 
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