LPC leadership race - 2025

[Remius]

When push comes to shove the LPC seem to fall back on rich white men to save them. After lamenting how evil rich white men are.

When has the LPC specifically lamented evil rich white men? Or is that more an interpretation of their other statements? I understand the hypocrisy angle but this candidate was terrible by any standard.

Does the 180 ethical violations in the $400M green slush fund the Liberals refuse to be transparent over I keep whining about count?

It kind of seems like the Liberals only care about ethics when it suits them.

Definitely yes. No different than a CPC who claims that foreign interference is a serious issue but refuse to be briefed on the matter or let it run its course in their last leadership race. Only important when it suits them right?

No party is clean in that regard.

Ruby Dhalla is no loss to anyone.

 

[MilEME09]

Does the 180 ethical violations in the $400M green slush fund the Liberals refuse to be transparent over I keep whining about count?

It kind of seems like the Liberals only care about ethics when it suits them.

*alleged slush fund, there's a big difference between the majority of the liberal ethics violations (not all were deliberate) and knowingly skirting campaign finance rules, and potentially receiving aid of a foreign government. There's breaking the rules, and then there's breaking the law. Given how 40+ members of team Trudeau aren't running again, nows as good as time as any to start fixing the ship and cleaning up

 

[Jarnhamar]

When has the LPC specifically lamented evil rich white men?

Trudeu's entire tenure, and, Liberal supporters trash talking Poilievre for being "a corporate banker type" -until Carney popped on scene.

Only important when it suits them right?

Every party called for an investigation into foreign interference except one. The Liberals bent over backwards to avoid it.

No party is clean in that regard.
Ruby Dhalla is no loss to anyone.

Yeah, she seems like a typical politician dirt bag. Typical "I didn't know any better" response for unethical behavior.

It's still super hypocritical of the LPC, which is extremely common for them. Iconic even.

 

[Fishbone Jones]

So they should just allow any crazy type to run and break the rules?

Do you really believe she was a serious candidate? With only 107 donors (clearly questionable). She was a problem back when she was a MP and she is clearly one now.

The only people upset are all the “new” members that joined with an intent to vote her in lol.

You're assuming the LPC Election Committee is telling the truth. She had the votes and money to become a candidate.
$350,000 is a hell of a lot of money for someone who is not a serious candidate.
Problems are in the eye of the beholder. What you consider a problem others might not. Opinions and all that.

Nice crystal ball that you can determine that only new members are upset. I wish I could look into that many minds to make a determination like that.

In the end, it doesn't matter. The liberals will be out of power soon enough, with whatever conman they've picked for a leader. 338 is showing a plateau at the moment with a fairly comfortable conservative lead and a majority of 42% and 192 seats

Whether she's in or out, I really don't care. I simply posted the article and gave my thoughts on a proven disfunctional and dishonest party, that can't be trusted to do the right and honourable thing. I didn't expect someone would see my posting as support for her and try pick an arguement.

 

[Fishbone Jones]

When has the LPC specifically lamented evil rich white men? Or is that more an interpretation of their other statements? I understand the hypocrisy angle but this candidate was terrible by any standard.

Definitely yes. No different than a CPC who claims that foreign interference is a serious issue but refuse to be briefed on the matter or let it run its course in their last leadership race. Only important when it suits them right?

No party is clean in that regard.

Ruby Dhalla is no loss to anyone.

How about everytime they run the commercial of that evil rich white Pierre Poliviere, his pension and act like he is Mr Burns. Sure sounds like lamentations and whining to me. Pretty damn hypocritical too.

As I said that is just your opinion about how terrible she is. It's not a point of fact. What is fact is the support she had in members and enough of it to raise $350K. Not everyone is in agreement she was terrible.

Nice deflecting to the conservatives though.

 

[Jarnhamar]

*alleged slush fund

Alleged? They brought parliament to a stand still IOT avoid answering questions about it.

there's a big difference between the majority of the liberal ethics violations (not all were deliberate)

Can you give examples of how any of those 180 ethical violations the Liberals refuse to discuss weren't deliberate? What kind of accidental ethical violations did they do?

 

[Remius]

You're assuming the LPC Election Committee is telling the truth. She had the votes and money to become a candidate.
$350,000 is a hell of a lot of money for someone who is not a serious candidate.
Problems are in the eye of the beholder. What you consider a problem others might not. Opinions and all that.

It is a lot of money for only 107 supporters. You actually think she’s a serious candidate because of that?

opinions and all that.

Nice crystal ball that you can determine that only new members are upset. I wish I could look into that many minds to make a determination like that.

Yep. It’s a skill.

In the end, it doesn't matter. The liberals will be out of power soon enough, with whatever conman they've picked for a leader. 338 is showing a plateau at the moment with a fairly comfortable conservative lead and a majority of 42% and 192 seats

Exactly. No reason to get up in arms about it. I’m looking forward to seeing what 338 says on Sunday. I’m a fan of their aggregate.

Whether she's in or out, I really don't care. I simply posted the article and gave my thoughts on a proven disfunctional and dishonest party, that can't be trusted to do the right and honourable thing. I didn't expect someone would see my posting as support for her and try pick an arguement.

I never implied you supported her lol.

 

[Lumber]

More liberal shenanigans. This should bump freeland and, maybe, baylis. I wonder which one will get blindsided next. It might appear they seem to be doing everything possible to fix and rig the system for carney.

God, I hope Canadians wake up to what a corrupt, disingenuous and utterly despicable party the LPC really is. Anyone holding a membership should go take a long look in the mirror and question their morals.

https://twitter.com/x/status/1893088315802353665

"We need to do more to prevent fraud, corruption, and foreign interference in our government processes!"

-LPC proceeds to deal swiftly and aggressively with potential fraud, corruption, and FI in our government processes-

Fishbone: "How dare they!"

 

[Remius]

Trudeu's entire tenure, and, Liberal supporters trash talking Poilievre for being "a corporate banker type" -until Carney popped on scene.

I was hoping for something specific. Ah liberal supporters, you said LPC.

Every party called for an investigation into foreign interference except one. The Liberals bent over backwards to avoid it.

Right. They all seem to be playing games right?

Yeah, she seems like a typical politician dirt bag. Typical "I didn't know any better" response for unethical behavior.

Yep.

It's still super hypocritical of the LPC, which is extremely common for them. Iconic even.

Sure. Same with the other side…

I don’t buy the fake outrage some are expressing though.

 

[Remius]

How about everytime they run the commercial of that evil rich white Pierre Poliviere, his pension and act like he is Mr Burns. Sure sounds like lamentations and whining to me. Pretty damn hypocritical too.

Never saw that one. Have a link? He is a rich white guy though.

As I said that is just your opinion about how terrible she is. It's not a point of fact. What is fact is the support she had in members and enough of it to raise $350K. Not everyone is in agreement she was terrible.

107 members is what she had. Fact. So 107 people don’t agree she is terrible. Opinion.

Nice deflecting to the conservatives though.

Yep. Have to keep things balanced at times. Again no party is clean in that regard.

 

[YZT580]

When has the LPC specifically lamented evil rich white men? Or is that more an interpretation of their other statements? I understand the hypocrisy angle but this candidate was terrible by any standard.

Definitely yes. No different than a CPC who claims that foreign interference is a serious issue but refuse to be briefed on the matter or let it run its course in their last leadership race. Only important when it suits them right?

No party is clean in that regard.

Ruby Dhalla is no loss to anyone.

In a truly democratic organization, anyone should be allowed to put their name forward and have their peers decide whether they are the right person for the job. All should have equal opportunity to present their position. I don't know anything about Ruby or her stand on any issue but I can smell a 4 day old sucker and that is the odor I get from the whole liberal leadership scenario

 

[Remius]

In a truly democratic organization, anyone should be allowed to put their name forward and have their peers decide whether they are the right person for the job. All should have equal opportunity to present their position. I don't know anything about Ruby or her stand on any issue but I can smell a 4 day old sucker and that is the odor I get from the whole liberal leadership scenario

Then maybe do some research on her.

 

[YZT580]

Then maybe do some research on her.

don't need to, I am not about to vote for either her or anyone else in the party. The point is she met all the qualification marks and she raised the money. So what has disqualified her in the eyes of the committee?

 

[Jarnhamar]

I was hoping for something specific. Ah liberal supporters, you said LPC.

Could chalk it up to my white fragility

It's an over all white-men-bad ambiance of the LPC, and what seems like much of their voting base.

Trudeau brags about racial parity in his government but when racialized females get out of line Who replaces them? Wilson-Raybould and Anand? Or Freeland?

Right. They all seem to be playing games right?

I don't think the LPC avoiding an investigation to foreign interference was a game to them, more like survival.

Sure. Same with the other side…

But this is the LPC leadership thread.
In a tit for tat I think the Liberals are well ahead of the Conservatives for ethical violations over the last 10 years, don't you agree?

 

[Lumber]

don't need to, I am not about to vote for either her or anyone else in the party. The point is she met all the qualification marks and she raised the money. So what has disqualified her in the eyes of the committee?

Again, go read about it.

 

[Fishbone Jones]

Never saw that one. Have a link? He is a rich white guy though.

No. I stream most of what I watch and I see it pop up maybe twice a day. If you search 'liberal commercials', you might find it. It starts out whining about his pension. All red background. The whole thing looks pretty amateurish and hypocritical.

 

[RangerRay]

I don’t like the Liberals, but I favour strong parties. That is that they should have the institutional strength to reject any candidate that they view as not lining up with their institutional values. They should be able to tell candidates “You’re not running for us” for any reason. That means the Tories can ditch Brown for dodgy behaviour, the Liberals can ditch Dhalla for dodgy behaviour, and the B.C. NDP can ditch that looney tree-hugger that was running against Eby because she was too extreme. It’s too bad the Liberals were weak when they chose Trudeau and didn’t foresee that he would turn their party into a cult. They could have ditched him before he drove the party off a cliff.

Institutionally weak parties will be taken over by cult leaders that don’t share the values of the party.

 

[RangerRay]

Freeland is again the target of disinformation, this time it’s Kremlin-aligned.

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[brihard]

More liberal shenanigans. This should bump freeland and, maybe, baylis. I wonder which one will get blindsided next. It might appear they seem to be doing everything possible to fix and rig the system for carney.

God, I hope Canadians wake up to what a corrupt, disingenuous and utterly despicable party the LPC really is. Anyone holding a membership should go take a long look in the mirror and question their morals.

https://twitter.com/x/status/1893088315802353665

I’ll reserve judgment on this until we see if anything becomes public from it. The info that’s been leaked/released is pretty ambiguous; if, as the party says, there are various elections act violations, it’s certainly in the realm of the possible that there may be a police investigation to come. It would not be the first police probe into shenanigans in a leadership race. I have no idea if there actually is one or not, but it sounds like it could be a possibility.

 

[FSTO]

Political Parties are private clubs, so they can do what they want to keep people in or out. They like it that way but they must know they are very susceptible to manipulation by bad faith actors, foreign and domestic.