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Justin Trudeau hints at boosting Canada’s military spending
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I don’t recall the Canadian army coming up against the German army since WW2.
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Was reading in another article that one of the sticking points is the refurbed vehicles would be better armed and armoured than the originals, and the cost for that is being absorbed by DND.
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I'm with you brother, but don't get to excited until its happened. The man is made of Teflon and the Cons love a good self implosion.
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Indeed, remember, please that
this is the normal fighting position of the Conservative Party of Canada:Attachments
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Without comment from me ... two charter members of the progressive left, Ernie Regehr of Project Ploughshares and Douglas Roche a retired senator and Canadian ambassador for disarmament, tell us their views, and I daresay a views of a very large minority if not an absolute majority of Canadians, in the Globe and Mail:
CONTRIBUTED TO THE GLOBE AND MAIL
Powerful voices are driving Canada toward meeting NATO’s arbitrary target of spending 2 per cent of GDP for defence, but this singular focus on military expansion is not the path to a secure and peaceful future. Instead, Canada needs to get off the defensive and launch a new initiative for peace – one that boosts diplomacy as the surer route to global security.
Donald Trump, who is on the campaign trail as the Republican nominee for president, has promised to up the ante if he is elected by pressing NATO to reach a new military spending target of 3 per cent of GDP. NATO’s assistant secretary-general for defence policy and planning, Angus Lapsley, was quick to voice his support, calling the 2 per cent target the “floor” and insisting that spending “will have to rise considerably above” it. The U.S.’s annual spending on defence already represents 3.4 per cent of its GDP.
The world is clearly moving to more and more confrontation in international relations. The relentless Ukraine war, the attacks on Israel and the extraordinary toll of human suffering in Gaza, the breakdown of U.S. and Russian arms-control agreements, and China’s growing nuclear arsenal are tilting the world toward chaos and existential threats that have been unseen since the Second World War.
In this new surge of militarism, diplomacy has been pushed aside, at our collective peril. Without robust diplomacy, sharp increases in military spending lead inevitably to mutual escalation and reduced security. The way out of that self-defeating spiral is strategic dialogue, direct engagement with adversaries, and arms control – in other words, diplomacy.
Canada needs to stop apologizing for its supposedly meagre military efforts and launch an offensive campaign with like-minded countries to put teeth into peace diplomacy and the United Nations’ New Agenda for Peace.
Ottawa should act on two fronts. First, it must debunk the myth that Canada doesn’t carry its weight in military matters. It is already NATO’s seventh-highest military spender by dollar amount, with our $30.5-billion putting us within the top 20 per cent of Alliance military forces. Canada consistently ranks as 15th- to 17th-highest in military spending in the world, well within the top 10 per cent. Canada is also taking timely and sustainable steps to beef up domain awareness and defences through NORAD in the Arctic, and it leads NATO’s multinational battlegroup in Latvia.
Simply repeating the complaint that Canada fails to meet NATO’s 2-per-cent benchmark is not a security strategy. A GDP-linked spending target amounts to a money-making slogan for the defence industry and a formula for perpetually expanding military budgets.
The $10-billion to $15-billion (and counting) of additional annual military spending that it would take to move fully to 2 per cent of GDP, let alone beyond that, would mean starving the already underfunded health, housing, and other social and climate mitigation programs on which Canadians rely.
Second, Canada has the credentials to help invigorate the international system to better understand the underlying drivers of conflict, to renew efforts to build support for more effective collective security responses, and to take meaningful steps to manage emerging risks. In other words, Canada should move to a holistic approach to conflict and peace. Unfortunately, NATO doesn’t do holistic peace.
Last year, U.N. Secretary-General António Guterres laid out a comprehensive set of measures for global security in A New Agenda for Peace. He called for the elimination of nuclear weapons, preventative diplomacy to head off wars, more support for the Sustainable Development Goals to address the underlying causes of violence and insecurity, the reinforcement of climate action, and expanded peacebuilding efforts.
Mr. Guterres’s proposed approach is the right one, but he can’t be heard amid today’s clamour for more military spending. For Canada to move beyond the simplistic 2-per-cent formula would require vision and initiative from its political, military, and diplomatic leaders. Instead of playing catch-up in NATO, which is already spending 10 times more than Russia on defence, Canada should advance security by boosting diplomacy, peacekeeping and peacemaking efforts. That is what the world needs – not more arms.
Canada has a history of sparking creative initiatives, including the Anti-Personnel Mine Ban Convention, the International Criminal Court, and the Responsibility to Protect pledge. We can summon that creativity again, but only if we refuse to be intimidated by myopic demands by NATO and the U.S. for ever more military spending.
As I said, no comment fro me.
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Canada should invest in diplomacy, instead of spending more on defence
ERNIE REGEHR AND DOUGLAS ROCHECONTRIBUTED TO THE GLOBE AND MAIL
Powerful voices are driving Canada toward meeting NATO’s arbitrary target of spending 2 per cent of GDP for defence, but this singular focus on military expansion is not the path to a secure and peaceful future. Instead, Canada needs to get off the defensive and launch a new initiative for peace – one that boosts diplomacy as the surer route to global security.
Donald Trump, who is on the campaign trail as the Republican nominee for president, has promised to up the ante if he is elected by pressing NATO to reach a new military spending target of 3 per cent of GDP. NATO’s assistant secretary-general for defence policy and planning, Angus Lapsley, was quick to voice his support, calling the 2 per cent target the “floor” and insisting that spending “will have to rise considerably above” it. The U.S.’s annual spending on defence already represents 3.4 per cent of its GDP.
The world is clearly moving to more and more confrontation in international relations. The relentless Ukraine war, the attacks on Israel and the extraordinary toll of human suffering in Gaza, the breakdown of U.S. and Russian arms-control agreements, and China’s growing nuclear arsenal are tilting the world toward chaos and existential threats that have been unseen since the Second World War.
In this new surge of militarism, diplomacy has been pushed aside, at our collective peril. Without robust diplomacy, sharp increases in military spending lead inevitably to mutual escalation and reduced security. The way out of that self-defeating spiral is strategic dialogue, direct engagement with adversaries, and arms control – in other words, diplomacy.
Canada needs to stop apologizing for its supposedly meagre military efforts and launch an offensive campaign with like-minded countries to put teeth into peace diplomacy and the United Nations’ New Agenda for Peace.
Ottawa should act on two fronts. First, it must debunk the myth that Canada doesn’t carry its weight in military matters. It is already NATO’s seventh-highest military spender by dollar amount, with our $30.5-billion putting us within the top 20 per cent of Alliance military forces. Canada consistently ranks as 15th- to 17th-highest in military spending in the world, well within the top 10 per cent. Canada is also taking timely and sustainable steps to beef up domain awareness and defences through NORAD in the Arctic, and it leads NATO’s multinational battlegroup in Latvia.
Simply repeating the complaint that Canada fails to meet NATO’s 2-per-cent benchmark is not a security strategy. A GDP-linked spending target amounts to a money-making slogan for the defence industry and a formula for perpetually expanding military budgets.
The $10-billion to $15-billion (and counting) of additional annual military spending that it would take to move fully to 2 per cent of GDP, let alone beyond that, would mean starving the already underfunded health, housing, and other social and climate mitigation programs on which Canadians rely.
Second, Canada has the credentials to help invigorate the international system to better understand the underlying drivers of conflict, to renew efforts to build support for more effective collective security responses, and to take meaningful steps to manage emerging risks. In other words, Canada should move to a holistic approach to conflict and peace. Unfortunately, NATO doesn’t do holistic peace.
Last year, U.N. Secretary-General António Guterres laid out a comprehensive set of measures for global security in A New Agenda for Peace. He called for the elimination of nuclear weapons, preventative diplomacy to head off wars, more support for the Sustainable Development Goals to address the underlying causes of violence and insecurity, the reinforcement of climate action, and expanded peacebuilding efforts.
Mr. Guterres’s proposed approach is the right one, but he can’t be heard amid today’s clamour for more military spending. For Canada to move beyond the simplistic 2-per-cent formula would require vision and initiative from its political, military, and diplomatic leaders. Instead of playing catch-up in NATO, which is already spending 10 times more than Russia on defence, Canada should advance security by boosting diplomacy, peacekeeping and peacemaking efforts. That is what the world needs – not more arms.
Canada has a history of sparking creative initiatives, including the Anti-Personnel Mine Ban Convention, the International Criminal Court, and the Responsibility to Protect pledge. We can summon that creativity again, but only if we refuse to be intimidated by myopic demands by NATO and the U.S. for ever more military spending.
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As I said, no comment fro me.
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They're not completely wrong we do need to invest more in Global Affairs. But a caveats, we really do have to spend a hell of lot more
on Defence.
And put responsibility for this country's diplomatic matters back in the hands of the foreign policy professionals and Cabinet where it belongs.
As opposed to the PMO and the usual collection of weasels in short pant who view our relationship with the world as just another tool in keep thé big guy and themselves in gainful employment.
on Defence.
And put responsibility for this country's diplomatic matters back in the hands of the foreign policy professionals and Cabinet where it belongs.
As opposed to the PMO and the usual collection of weasels in short pant who view our relationship with the world as just another tool in keep thé big guy and themselves in gainful employment.
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Maybe if we didn’t spend almost 3x more on a increasingly unproductive federal public service that complains about a 3-day/week in office policy, than we did on defence?
Regher and Roche fail to address the degree to which bureaucratic encumbrance wastes that defence budgeting they crow about as a world standard…
Regher and Roche fail to address the degree to which bureaucratic encumbrance wastes that defence budgeting they crow about as a world standard…
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There really isn't much of bureaucracy left these days at Global Affairs at least where it matters. We close and consolidate embassies and consulates.
We're country of cheapskates and no riskers . Our current Government policy consists primarily of issuing virtue signalling press releases and generally pontificating on world affairs because it's cheaper and politically safer then actually doing something.
We're country of cheapskates and no riskers . Our current Government policy consists primarily of issuing virtue signalling press releases and generally pontificating on world affairs because it's cheaper and politically safer then actually doing something.
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Not many foreign governments are interested in listening to our current generation of moralizing leaders.
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It’s sad that, in this day and age, there are so many prominent Canadians who still refuse to accept that the world is becoming an increasingly violent place. Douglas Roche and Ernie Regehr seem like carryovers from the mid-1930s.
Kind of reminds me of an obviously-troubled boy who used to come in to my father’s retail store and intentionally damage things. When I or anyone else would stop him he would tremble with hatred. The mother would pay for any damage and apologize profusely. She said how she had taken the boy to a psychiatrist who recommended giving in to the little brat and letting him have what he wanted, which is basically what she and her husband did. Even when he would hit or steal from his older brother, the sibling was not allowed to reciprocate. The mother would simply say to the errant boy that his behaviour was not acceptable. And so it went, for a number of years…until…the boy got mad at his dad for some reason and, in a severe rage, got in his car and ran over his dad repeatedly, killing him. I see people like Roche and Regehr as the psychiatrists.
Nations can be a lot like individual people, some good and some bad. And sometimes singing Kumbaya around the campfire only encourages the wolves to pick off the sheep.
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