Justin Trudeau hints at boosting Canada’s military spending

I'll believe it when I see it.

 

[Rifleman62]

Rest assured he’s not going to move the needle much on defence spending, but he will say and do whatever it takes to make it look like he is “taking bold action”, and of course blame everyone else.

At the 2:30 minute mark. Harper, Harper.

Justin Trudeau Gets MAD Talking To His Mainstream Media Reporters​

 

[Quirky]

Defence industry, allies call for Canada to increase military investments

Canada's announcement of an $11.2-billion contract to improve training platforms for the military is getting a lukewarm reception at the country's largest defence trade show, as allies and military industry companies want to see more investment from the federal government.

www.ctvnews.ca

Canada has announced an $11.2-billion contract to improve training platforms for the military, including the purchase of 70 training aircraft for the Future Aircrew Training (FAcT) program. The training aircraft will be split into fleets including two-seat turboprop training and aerobatic low-wing aircraft, helicopters and Dash-8 regional jets.

PC-21s as previously selected?

Now for the Hawk....

 

[dimsum]

Defence industry, allies call for Canada to increase military investments

Canada's announcement of an $11.2-billion contract to improve training platforms for the military is getting a lukewarm reception at the country's largest defence trade show, as allies and military industry companies want to see more investment from the federal government.

www.ctvnews.ca

PC-21s as previously selected?

Now for the Hawk....

I really want to know how media sites select their pictures. The Aurora isn’t any of those things they announced so why is it on the page?

 

[MacNav63]

Here's the actual news release: Minister Blair announces major investments in equipment and training for the Canadian Armed Forces in partnership with Canada’s defence industry - Canada.ca

 

[The Bread Guy]

Here's the actual news release: Minister Blair announces major investments in equipment and training for the Canadian Armed Forces in partnership with Canada’s defence industry - Canada.ca

And here’s the mix of airframes from the info-machine …

 

[KevinB]

hmm

G 120TP - GROB AIRCRAFT SE

grob-aircraft.com

PC-21 | The Next Generation Trainer | Pilatus Aircraft Ltd

To train the next generation of military pilots, Pilatus developed the next generation trainer: the Pilatus PC-21, designed and built specifically with students in mind.

www.pilatus-aircraft.com

Not being a pilot - is there any reason for two of those? or the two twin engine ones?

Beechcraft King Air 260 Turboprop | Textron Aviation

The Beechcraft King Air 260 turboprop sports cutting-edge touchscreen avionics and an entirely redesigned cabin for even greater versatility and comfort.

beechcraft.txtav.com

Home | De Havilland

dehavilland.com

Then this just seems like a waste - as Bell Mirable makes helicopters in Canada...

H135

Backed by experience and a long heritage, over 1,400 twin-engine H135s have been delivered and are in service in more than 60 countries. With over 300 operators, these versatile rotorcraft have flown 5.5 million hours (as of 2022).

www.airbus.com

 

[Czech_pivo]

And here’s the mix of airframes from the info-machine …
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Quick question, all of these planes are turbo-prop's, none are jet engine. Does this mean that we won't have any jet engine trainers going forward?

 

[dapaterson]

Quick question, all of these planes are turbo-prop's, none are jet engine. Does this mean that we won't have any jet engine trainers going forward?

FaCT does not include jet training. That's under FFLiT.

 

[Mick]

hmm

G 120TP - GROB AIRCRAFT SE

grob-aircraft.com

PC-21 | The Next Generation Trainer | Pilatus Aircraft Ltd

To train the next generation of military pilots, Pilatus developed the next generation trainer: the Pilatus PC-21, designed and built specifically with students in mind.

www.pilatus-aircraft.com

Not being a pilot - is there any reason for two of those? or the two twin engine ones?

G120TP to replace the current G120A in Portage la Prairie, and the PC-21 to replace the Harvard II in Moose Jaw, would be my guess.

The Grob is a simpler aircraft for initial training before progressing to the Harvard II / PC21.

King Air 260 for Multi-Engine pilot training, and Dash-8 400 for ACSO / AESOP training, replacing the current King Air C90B and Dash-8 100 in those roles.

 

[The Bread Guy]

FaCT does not include jet training. That's under FFLiT.

Hunt's apparently still on for that ....

Canada set to launch search for new trainer to support future F-35A fleet

The Royal Canadian Air Force will start engaging with industry from next month as it starts work towards defining its requirements for a future fighter lead-in trainer to enter service early next decade.

www.flightglobal.com

Info-machine update ....

RCAF embarks on Bridge FLIT as 419 Squadron begins hiatus

The Royal Canadian Air Force is reaffirming its presence at a major multinational jet pilot training school and placing its fighter lead-in training squadron on hiatus, as the RCAF prepares to transition its frontline fighter from the CF18 to the F35.

www.canada.ca

 

[dimsum]

G120TP to replace the current G120A in Portage la Prairie, and the PC-21 to replace the Harvard II in Moose Jaw, would be my guess.

The Grob is a simpler aircraft for initial training before progressing to the Harvard II / PC21.

King Air 260 for Multi-Engine pilot training, and Dash-8 400 for ACSO / AESOP training, replacing the current King Air C90B and Dash-8 100 in those roles.

I’d say “cue the lines of pilots wanting Q400 time for the regionals” but let’s be honest - the RCAF pays more

 

[dapaterson]

I’d say “cue the lines of pilots wanting Q400 time for the regionals” but let’s be honest - the RCAF pays more

Proposal: realign pilot pay scales away from time in rank to flight hours. So the Capt with 4000 hours gets more than the LCol with 2500.

 

[Fabius]

Here's the actual news release: Minister Blair announces major investments in equipment and training for the Canadian Armed Forces in partnership with Canada’s defence industry - Canada.ca

Training under this new contract is scheduled to start in the spring of 2029. 5 years from now.

 

[dimsum]

Proposal: realign pilot pay scales away from time in rank to flight hours. So the Capt with 4000 hours gets more than the LCol with 2500.

CAF: Hey RCAF, why are you led by ACSOs and AOOs? Where did the Pilots go?

RCAF:

 

[dapaterson]

CAF: Hey RCAF, why are you led by ACSOs and AOOs? Where did the Pilots go?

RCAF:

That would be a net benefit. The Army isn't commanded by MSE OPS.

Incentivizing pilots to fly runs counter to the current thinking, but...

 

[lenaitch]

I really want to know how media sites select their pictures. The Aurora isn’t any of those things they announced so why is it on the page?

It's big; it's grey; it's got the wordmark, plus a guy in camo. If those big things were spinning, even better.

 

[dapaterson]

Training under this new contract is scheduled to start in the spring of 2029. 5 years from now.

As I understand, it's a gradual process to transparently transition from the current training to that delivered by FaCT.

Almost as if such a change needs to deliberately planned and executed.

 

[daftandbarmy]

I really want to know how media sites select their pictures. The Aurora isn’t any of those things they announced so why is it on the page?

Easy... just find some stock photos from the US Military and put a maple leaf on them

Viz:

 

[Fabius]

As I understand, it's a gradual process to transparently transition from the current training to that delivered by FaCT.

Almost as if such a change needs to deliberately planned and executed.

If the institution can manage to deliberately plan and execute a transition from current training to FAcT in a proactive manner, what happened with the fighter lead in training then?

From what I’ve gleaned from some the FLIT bridge is not what I would call desirable. That makes me wonder how much of what is billed as deliberate and planned is actually either just accidental or by the hard work of individuals despite the ambivalence of the institution.

 

[dapaterson]

If the institution can manage to deliberately plan and execute a transition from current training to FAcT in a proactive manner, what happened with the fighter lead in training then?

From what I’ve gleaned from some the FLIT bridge is not what I would call desirable. That makes me wonder how much of what is billed as deliberate and planned is actually either just accidental or by the hard work of individuals despite the ambivalence of the institution.

FFLIT is tied to the FFCP implementation. Doing a long term solution before the latter was confirmed would have been excessive risk. An interim solution makes sense.