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    AOR Replacement & the Joint Support Ship (Merged Threads)

    Yep, if you want the AOR built in 1995 (HNLMS Amsterdam), you'll have to wait untill 2014. Would fit nicely with Patino AORs if Canada would decide to build those. The Patino class was a joint design by Spanish BAZAN and Dutch NEVESBU. HNLMS Amsterdam is the Dutch built version of that design.
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    AOR Replacement & the Joint Support Ship (Merged Threads)

    It isn't a LPD, it has no well. It has 2 RAS masts, one on the left and one on the right. Troop transport was always a minor issue with the Dutch JSS, since they have 2 real LPD's that together can carry 1159 troops (apart from their crew).
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    AOR Replacement & the Joint Support Ship (Merged Threads)

    Maybe someone at Damen thinks they can sell the design to Canada and that's the reason they put the Iltis (they just forgot you guys also use the G-wagon nowadays  ;D) and the Cyclone in. For the Dutch is should be the G-wagon (the Dutch never even used the Iltis unlike the Canadians) and the...
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    AOR Replacement & the Joint Support Ship (Merged Threads)

    For those that are interested. The Dutch have signed an agreement in principle with Damen Naval for their version of the JSS. It will cost €365,5mln (C$ 577,5mln) and have a displacement of 27.800 tons. The letter to parliament said this about a cooperation with Canada: The Canadian...
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    AOR Replacement & the Joint Support Ship (Merged Threads)

    With the Dutch JSS, as pictured here, it's also a RoRo capability. This JSS has no welldeck, it's not an LPD. Check the (clickable) pic on the Dutch MoD site: http://www.defensie.nl/dmo/materieelprojecten/zeestrijdkrachten/verwerving_joint_logistiek_ondersteuningsschip_(jss)/
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    AOR Replacement & the Joint Support Ship (Merged Threads)

    What I''m trying to find out is why this program is so expensive (or the Dutch so cheap). A quick glance at both the Canadian JSS and the Dutch JSS lets me to believe that the major difference between the two is that the Canadian JSS would get an ice-breaking hull. The difference in price is...
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    AOR Replacement & the Joint Support Ship (Merged Threads)

    There's only one reason the Dutch don't build all their ships at home and that is: money. The Damen Group (parent company of Royal Schelde, the builder of the naval vessels) owned Romanian yard can build the hulls cheaper. But at times when the Royal Schelde is having it rough, Parliament...
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    AOR Replacement & the Joint Support Ship (Merged Threads)

    From the National Post. From a Dutch perspective the article is also quite interesting, because the Dutch MoD has told Parliament in the past that there was no other (NATO or EU) country that wanted a JSS and that collaboration with another country was therefore impossible, although at that...
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    AOR Replacement & the Joint Support Ship (Merged Threads)

    Latest artist impression of the Dutch JSS Karel Doorman, from (the usually well informed guys at) www.dutchfleet.net. Not an LPD, since it doesn't have a well deck. Around 25.000t displacement.
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    Op ARTEMIS: Counter-terr/secur @ sea (merged)

    I'm always wondering where these journalists get their information. In these press-releases regarding CTF-150 I often see the Netherlands being mentioned as one of the contributors of the ships that are in CTF-150. But in fact they've only got 2 people in the Combined Forces Maritime Component...
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