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Re: Wikileaks and Julian Assange Mega-thread
« Reply #25 on: November 29, 2010, 18:44:46 »
Was he wrong?

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CSIS ex-chief slams courts, Canadians: WikiLeaks
29/11/2010 6:01:57 PM
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A U.S. official reported that former CSIS director Jim Judd said Canadians and their courts had an "Alice in Wonderland" worldview, according to a 2008 U.S. diplomatic cable released by WikiLeaks.

Judd and the U.S. official were discussing threats posed by violent Islamist groups in Canada, as well as recent developments in Pakistan and Afghanistan.

In the cable, which was sent by the U.S. Embassy in Ottawa to the U.S. government, the official states that Judd said Canadian judges have "CSIS 'in knots,' making it ever more difficult to detect and prevent terror attacks in Canada and abroad."

Judd said the situation "left government security agencies on the defensive and losing public support for their effort to protect Canada and its allies," the cable states.

The cable is one of hundreds of thousands of cables released by the website WikiLeaks.

The dispatch goes on to state that Judd "derided" recent Canadian court judgments that threaten foreign governments' intelligence-sharing with Canada.

"These judgments posit that Canadian authorities cannot use information that 'may have been' derived from torture, and that any Canadian public official who conveys such information may be subject to criminal prosecution," the cable says.

Judd credited Prime Minister Stephen Harper's minority Conservative government for " 'taking it on the chin and pressing ahead' with common sense measures despite court challenges and political knocks from the opposition and interest groups," according to the document.

The cable said that Judd stated CSIS had responded to recent, non-specific intelligence on possible terror operations by "vigorously harassing" known Hezbollah members in Canada.

Judd also said that sections of a court-ordered release of a DVD of Guantanamo detainee and Canadian citizen Omar Khadr "would likely show three ... adults interrogating a kid who breaks down in tears."

Judd stated that the video "would no doubt trigger knee-jerk anti-Americanism" and "paroxysms of moral outrage, a Canadian specialty," the cable said.

Judd was the director of the Canadian Security Intelligence Service from 2004 to 2009.

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Re: Wikileaks and Julian Assange Mega-thread
« Reply #26 on: November 29, 2010, 19:21:41 »
The State Department and Obama's administration is not shown in the best light by these cables.
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Re: Wikileaks and Julian Assange Mega-thread
« Reply #27 on: November 29, 2010, 20:00:11 »
The State Department and Obama's administration is not shown in the best light by these cables.

Canada, and those Canadians who are taking pleasure in reading these, should just thank their lucky stars our own cables back to Ottawa aren't  being released.  Jebus Christ, what do people think diplomats talk about in confidential cables?  The f***ing weather?    These are diplomats.  Their JOB is to communicate.  With other nations and, as importantly, with their superiors -  in the most honest and straightforward manner possible.


It makes me sick that people are :

a) surprised/shocked/aghast; and
b) in any way "happy" to see these

I feel for the US administration right now, as I would for my own government if the situation was reversed.

Sorry for the rant, I have been bumping into troglodytes all day long who are surprised by the content.
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Re: Wikileaks and Julian Assange Mega-thread
« Reply #28 on: November 29, 2010, 20:16:36 »
The world needs to understand that Wikileaks is more about giving the US a bloody nose, than any high moral principle masquerading as the "the right to know".
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Re: Wikileaks and Julian Assange Mega-thread
« Reply #29 on: November 29, 2010, 20:28:37 »
Canada, and those Canadians who are taking pleasure in reading these, should just thank their lucky stars our own cables back to Ottawa aren't  being released.  Jebus Christ, what do people think diplomats talk about in confidential cables?  The f***ing weather?    These are diplomats.  Their JOB is to communicate.  With other nations and, as importantly, with their superiors -  in the most honest and straightforward manner possible.


It makes me sick that people are :

a) surprised/shocked/aghast; and
b) in any way "happy" to see these

I feel for the US administration right now, as I would for my own government if the situation was reversed.

Right on the money.....
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Re: Wikileaks and Julian Assange Mega-thread
« Reply #30 on: November 29, 2010, 20:41:25 »
Interesting news video report on this link:


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Who is behind the leaked US cables disclosed by Wikileaks?
29 November 2010 Last updated at 14:04 ET
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The publication of confidential US diplomatic cables by Wikileaks has been criticised by governments including Britain, America and Pakistan

Suspicion about the leaks has fallen on one man - US Army Private Bradley Manning.

Currently, he is in military custody over the leaking of material from Iraq and Afghanistan.

Gordon Corera reports.


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Re: Wikileaks and Julian Assange Mega-thread
« Reply #31 on: November 29, 2010, 23:00:47 »
So far the leaks I've seen haven't surprised me the least, or seemed very important, random even. This seems more or less like another attempt at "bashing" America and to embarrass it.
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Re: Wikileaks and Julian Assange Mega-thread
« Reply #32 on: November 30, 2010, 02:06:39 »
Wikileaks a U.S. plot, says Ahmadinejad

Iran's president has labelled WikiLeaks disclosures that Arab states demanded that the United States attack his country as an orchestrated attempt by Washington to destabilize the Middle East.

Mahmoud Ahmadinejad, who has led Tehran's resistance to sanctions against its nuclear program, suggested that WikiLeaks was an American tool to plant misinformation around the world.

Reports that the leaders of Saudi Arabia and the Gulf states had repeatedly pressed U.S. officials to strike against Iran were ridiculed as an effort to pit the country against its "Arab brothers".

"Let me first correct you. The material was not leaked, but rather released in an organized way," Mr Ahmadinejad told a press conference.

"We don't give any value to these documents. It's without legal value. Iran and regional states are friends. Such acts of mischief have no impact on relations between nations."

According to the documents, King Abdullah of Saudi Arabia urged America to "cut the head of the snake", while the leaders of Bahrain and the United Arab Emirates also urged a military solution. The Sunni Muslim monarchies fear that a nuclear-capable Shia Muslim state would wield supremacy in the Middle East.

Stung by the leaking of the revelations, their governments maintained a wall of silence Monday, fearful of a backlash for advocating military action in a region still resentful of the U.S. war in Iraq.

However, analysts said the reported comments were a true gauge of anxiety over a strong Iran.

"I think it confirms that the [Gulf] states are all more united on the anti-Iranian front than previously disclosed," said Theodore Karasik, a Dubai-based analyst.

Khaled al-Dakhil, a Saudi security expert, said Iran should take the revelations as a warning that its neighbours were exhausted by its aggressive foreign policy. "I don't think Iran takes at face value public declarations coming from the Gulf, whether for a war or not - just as Gulf leaders do not believe declarations about how peaceful the Iranian nuclear program is," he said.

Benjamin Netanyahu, Israel's prime minister, was one of the few government leaders to discuss the detail of the leaks, warning that U.S. diplomatic exchanges with allies including Israel could be scaled back as a result of the leak.

He anticipated potential embarrassment for Arab leadership. "There is usually a gap between what is said in public and what is said in private. In Israel, the gaps aren't so large, but in some of the other countries in the region the gaps are very large," Mr Netanyahu said. "Leaders should be ready to tell their people the truth."

But Israel also expressed satisfaction that its position on Iran had been vindicated. "We come out looking very good," a senior government official. "They [the leaked documents] confirm that the whole Middle East is terrified by the prospect of a nuclear Iran."

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Re: Wikileaks and Julian Assange Mega-thread
« Reply #33 on: November 30, 2010, 13:22:16 »
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Paging Maxwell Smart
Juicy WikiLeaks snooping details shows ‘intelligence community’ is an oxymoron

By WARREN KINSELLA, QMI Agency
Last Updated: November 30, 2010 1:00am
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When you take a gander at the mountain of classified U.S. documents WikiLeaks offered up on Sunday, you are inevitably left pondering the phrase “intelligence community.”

Turns out, it’s an oxymoron.

The “intelligence community,” clearly, is neither “intelligent” nor a “community.”

In fact, when you ponder what America’s top spies are pondering, it’s not so amazing that Osama bin Laden has escaped capture for more than a decade. The alleged Maxwell Smarts overseeing America’s intelligence-gathering aren’t particularly smart — and they have a tenuous grasp on that important allies/enemies distinction, too.

What else are we to make of a July 2009 State Department cable sent to American diplomats based at that nation’s fortified embassy in Ottawa, blandly urging them to spy on us, their allies? Us, their biggest trading partner — you know, the ones who recently acceded to their pleas we remain on the battlefields of Afghanistan for a few more years?

Us, whose prime minister rolls over to get his belly scratched by the White House so regularly he should be kennelled alongside Bo, the presidential pooch?

One secret document directs U.S. diplomats to “include as much of the following information as possible” about Canadian officials — including “numbers of telephones, cellphones, pagers and faxes ... Internet and Intranet ‘handles,’ Internet e-mail addresses, website identification-URLs; credit card account numbers; frequent flyer account numbers; work schedules, and other relevant biographical information.”

Hey, um, Mr. President? If we object to our American allies cataloguing our critically important “frequent flyer account numbers,” does that mean we’re now with the terrorists?

More to the point, does Osama bin Laden have a “work schedule” that will finally assist you and your crack team of intelligence experts to dispatch him, so we can finally bring our troops home?

(Missing from the WikiLeaks leaks, surprisingly, was the Top Secret cable describing how — if you ask him to completely reverse himself and commit to a few more years of war — Liberal foreign affairs expert Bob Rae will fold like a cheap suit.)

Tellingly, the U.S. government got word WikiLeaks was going to dump hundreds of thousands of supposedly sensitive documents on the Internet from, well, WikiLeaks. The Americans said “countless” lives would be put at risk by disclosure, so they got very angry. They got very tough.

They had one of their lawyers send WikiLeaks a sternly worded letter!

To the surprise of none of us holding Top Secret “frequent flyer account numbers,” that didn’t work. Back in the good old days of the Bush regime, the White House would have bombed WikiLeaks’ HQ. Now it sends lawyer’s letters. Wow.

My 15-year-old daughter safeguards her Facebook account better than these clowns protect national security. These goofs make the Austin Powers movies look like a documentary.

When one eyeballs WikiLeaks’ stuff — when you actually read some of the idiocy that masquerades as “intelligence” within the U.S. intelligence establishment — I wouldn’t be astonished to learn the al-Qaida boss is now in the U.S., selling timeshares in Florida.

But wherever bin Laden is — possibly still holed up in a cave somewhere with cable and an Xbox — you can be sure of one thing this week.

He’s laughing his *** off.

— Kinsella is a lawyer, consultant and Liberal Party spin-doctor. He blogs at warrenkinsella.com

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Re: Wikileaks and Julian Assange Mega-thread
« Reply #34 on: November 30, 2010, 19:35:37 »
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WikiLeaks Diplomatic Cables
A 'Teflon' Chancellor and 'Wildcard' Foreign Minister


How America Views the Germans

By Jan Friedmann, John Goetz, Ralf Neukirch, Marcel Rosenbach and Holger Stark
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The State Department dispatches that have now been released show just how critically the US views Germany. They see Chancellor Merkel as "risk averse" and Foreign Minister Westerwelle as a "wild card." The US Embassy in Berlin has informants at all levels of German government.

The secret informant who handed over internal documents from German coalition negotiations to the Americans in October 2009 doesn't want his cover blown. And the US has been careful to protect his identity. They simply call him "a well-placed source."

The source is a member of the business-friendly Free Democrats (FDP), the junior coalition partner to Merkel's Christian Democratic Union (CDU) party. Philip Murphy, the US ambassador in Berlin, describes him as a "young, up-and-coming party loyalist. The cable is numbered 229153, it was sent on Oct. 9, 2009 and is marked "confidential." Murphy never thought that it could be made public.

The cable was sent just 12 days following German general elections and German Chancellor Angela Merkel was in the process of negotiating a governing coalition with FDP Chairman Guido Westerwelle. Germany was in the process of charting a new course, and it now looks like the US government was a fly on the wall. Murphy, the cables make clear, was proud of that fact.

On Oct. 7, the informant met with US diplomats. He had brought along a stack of internal documents: lists of working groups and their members, schedules and handwritten memos. He had also noted who had said what during the meetings -- he had been tasked by the FDP with keeping minutes of the talks.

He told the Americans that there had been an internal argument over disarmament, and that Westerwelle wanted to see the United States remove its nuclear weapons from German soil. Then Interior Minister Wolfgang Schäuble, of Merkel's Christian Democrats, countered that the weapons serve as a deterrent against Iran. Westerwelle, according to the informant, had answered that this wasn't true, because the nuclear warheads couldn't even reach Iran. Merkel, Murphy writes in his memo, eventually cut off the debate by pointing out that German unilateralism on disarmament would lead nowhere.

'Happy to Share His Observations'

The FDP's subsequent anger with Schäuble was intense. The source said that Schäuble was "neurotic" and "saw threats everywhere." The FDP, he later added, viewed him as "an angry old man" who sought to portray himself as the CDU's "grey eminence" in order to expand his influence. The FDP informant hoped that the CDU would also view Schäuble's role as "counterproductive." At the end of the meeting, he handed over several copies of documents from his files on the coalition negotiations. "Post will seek meetings with source after the plenary negotiation rounds to see if additional readouts are possible," an obviously satisfied Murphy cabled to Washington.

The unknown German government informant must be bold and unscrupulous, or perhaps merely naïve and power hungry. Who knows exactly what motivates a party employee to reveal the details of his party's coalition negotiations to US diplomats?

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AN INTERACTIVE ATLAS OF THE DIPLOMATIC CABLES

A time lapse of 251,287 documents: The world map shows where the majority of the cables originated from, and where they had the highest level of classification.
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Murphy did his best to provide an explanation to his boss, US Secretary of State Hillary Clinton. The source, he writes, had "offered (the embassy employee) internal party documents in the past. Excited with his role as FDP negotiations note taker, he seemed happy to share his observations and insights and read to us directly from his notes."

A few days later, on Oct. 15, the informant was ready to deliver his next batch of information. This time he had brought along a list of 15 items that the FDP wanted to see included in the coalition agreement. Once again they included calls for "entering negotiations with our allies" over the withdrawal of nuclear weapons from Germany in the near future. How important is nuclear disarmament to Westerwelle, the US diplomats asked? Very important, the FDP source responded. He also said, though, that Westerwelle wanted to do Merkel the favor of enabling her to be elected chancellor before she traveled to Washington November 2.

Details of the German Decision-Making Process

Once again, Murphy sends off a dispatch to Washington -- the confidential cable is titled: "Germany Could Have New Coalition Government Within Two Weeks." It is coded "Noforn," meaning it is not to be seen be foreign governments, and is marked priority.

The cables clearly indicate that the source provided the US with details of the German government's decision-making process even before the coalition agreement had been reached. Should Merkel's government now begin searching for a traitor within its own ranks? And how should Berlin react to American diplomats who maintain sources at the upper levels of German politics, behaving at times in Berlin as if they were employees of an intelligence agency?

The two cables from Murphy are part of the most comprehensive leak in the history of diplomacy. They come from within the US State Department, two of a total of 251,287 State Department cables that the organization WikiLeaks has obtained, likely from the same source as the previous documents on the wars in Iraq and Afghanistan. In the wake of the military secrets that made headlines worldwide, most recently in late October, these new revelations focus on the second column of American power politics: diplomacy.

For the US government, it must feel as though they have been robbed of their clothes. The US has been exposed on the marketplace of global politics. The confidential dispatches begin with a cable from Dec. 28, 1966 and end on Feb. 28, 2010. They include situational reports from US Embassies across the globe sent to Washington. Some are also instructions from the State Department sent to its overseas posts. Most of them are from the administration of US President George W. Bush and from the beginning of the presidency of his successor, Barack Obama. Just from the year 2008, the year of Obama's election victory, there are 49,446 dispatches. A total of 1,719 of them come from the US Embassy in Berlin.

A Network of US Embassy Informants

The emergence of the documents is a disaster of global proportions for US foreign policy, one that will also affect Washington's relations with Berlin. Faith in the Americans' ability to protect their diplomatic traffic is deeply shaken -- that alone will change German-American relations. A superpower's diplomacy has never been revealed to quite the same degree.

But the secret documents also paint a picture of a political landscape in Germany covered by a network of US Embassy informants that even reaches into the capitals of Germany's states. It is a shameful portrait of a political class that has nothing better to do that to go behind the backs of others with the Americans -- to engage in conspiracy, denunciation and obstruction.

The US diplomats reported back to Washington when Economics Minister Rainer Brüderle complained about Defense Minister Karl-Theodor zu Guttenberg. They made note of it when Guttenberg went after Westerwelle yet again, or when SPD General Secretary Andrea Nahles criticized fellow Social Democrat Frank-Walter Steinmeier. The uncomplimentary reports were sent on to Wasthington. The US, the documents make clear, knows more about the secrets of German politics than many a German politician.

The diplomatic cables also reveal something else: The trans-Atlantic relationship is not in very good shape. The US view of German politics is distanced and cautious. American diplomats have never really hit it off with Chancellor Angela Merkel. They discount Horst Seehofer, the chairman of the CDU's Bavarian sister party, the Christian Social Union (CSU), because of his ignorance and populism. They feel that Development Minister Dirk Niebel (FDP) was a strange choice for the post. And Foreign Minister Westerwelle? US envoys are particularly critical of Germany's top diplomat. The secret cables describe him as incompetent, vain and critical of the United States, and as a burden on the trans-Atlantic relationship.

Part 1: How America Views the Germans

Part 2: The German Foreign Minister's 'Lack of Gravitas'

Part 3: American Insight into German Infighting
 
Part 4: America's Trojan Horse in Europe

Part 5: Standard Diplomatic Procedure?

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Re: Wikileaks and Julian Assange Mega-thread
« Reply #35 on: November 30, 2010, 22:11:20 »
Well, seems like the Wikileaks is finally going to start losing places to hide in, he's just had an Interpol warrant listed for his arrest:

http://www.interpol.int/public/data/wanted/notices/data/2010/86/2010_52486.asp

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« Reply #36 on: November 30, 2010, 22:17:04 »
Ecuador offers residency to WikiLeaks founder
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QUITO - An Ecuadorean government official has invited the founder of the WikiLeaks whistleblower website to live and lecture in the country, days after the site caused an international uproar by releasing additional sensitive U.S. documents.

Deputy Foreign Minister Kintto Lucas told local media that Ecuador was attempting to get in touch with WikiLeaks chief Julian Assange to invite him to the country, praising his work as an investigator.

Ecuador is part of a leftist bloc of governments in South America, including Venezuela and Bolivia, that have been highly critical of U.S. policy in the region.

More than 250,000 State Department cables were obtained by WikiLeaks and given to media groups, which began publishing stories Sunday exposing the inner workings of U.S. diplomacy, including candid and embarrassing assessments of world leaders. WikiLeaks previously had released U.S. documents on the wars in Iraq and Afghanistan.

“We are inviting him to give conferences and, if he wants, we have offered him Ecuadorean residency,” Lucas said in an interview published Tuesday in local newspaper Hoy.

Australian citizen Assange’s whereabouts are not known and he is believed to move from country to country. He had been seeking residency in Sweden but is now wanted in that country on sexual abuse charges that the former hacker says are part of a conspiracy against him.

Asked if the offer of residency was a formal invitation from the government, Lucas said, “sure.”

The U.S. government said Monday it deeply regretted the release of any classified information and would tighten security to prevent leaks such as WikiLeaks’ disclosure of a trove of State Department cables. The U.S. Justice Department said it was conducting a criminal investigation of the leaks.
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Re: Wikileaks and Julian Assange Mega-thread
« Reply #37 on: November 30, 2010, 22:22:18 »
You would figure Interpol would have grabbed his photo off the internet.

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« Reply #38 on: December 01, 2010, 10:14:24 »
Buzz is Wikileaks next target is one of America's big banks and then the Russians. Assange better get a bunker when the Russian stuff drops.

The leaks totally subverted the mainstream media and got the truth out. The USA is shown in a very favourable light. Tough minded guys trying to do whats right in a morally ambiguous world. Sometimes telling the  truth is the best policy. These leaks have done no real damage and you can't pay for publicity this good. This looks like a public relations win so far. Now they just have to stop short of making Assange a martyr and leave it to the FSB. 

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« Reply #39 on: December 01, 2010, 11:22:33 »
Apparently Tom Flanagan, a former adviser to PM Harper, told the CBC he'd like to see Wikileaks' founder assassinated.
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Wikileaks: Pakistan rejects US fears on nuclear arms
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Pakistan has dismissed fears expressed in US diplomatic cables, released by whistle-blower website Wikileaks, that its nuclear material could fall into the hands of terrorists.

High Commissioner to the UK Wajid Shamsul Hasan said the material had a "foolproof control and command system".

The cables warn Pakistan is rapidly building its nuclear stockpile despite the country's growing instability.

There is also scepticism about whether Pakistan could cut links to militants.

Separately, Interpol has issued a notice asking for information on the whereabouts of Wikileaks founder, Julian Assange.

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Speaking to BBC Radio 4's Today programme, Mr Hasan said the fears expressed in the cables came "off and on" but added: "We have always been telling them straight forward that [the nuclear weapons] are in secure hands, they don't have to worry about it and we will protect them.

"They are the dearest assets that we have and we'll not allow anything to fall into any adventurer's hands."

In domestic political terms, some of the most damaging material may be about the Pakistan government's stance on the controversial CIA drone programme, targeting militants in the tribal belt.

In public, officials oppose the drone strikes which have killed hundreds - including an unknown number of innocent civilians.

In private, it's a different story, according to a cable from US ambassador Anne Patterson. It says Prime Minister Yusuf Raza Gilani had no objections to a planned drone attack.

"I don't care if they do it, as long as they get the right people," he said. "We'll protest in the National Assembly (parliament) and then ignore it."

In one of the latest cables to be released by Wikileaks, senior UK Foreign Office official Mariot Leslie told US diplomats in September 2009 that Britain had "deep concerns about the safety and security of Pakistan's nuclear weapons".

In another cable seven months earlier, then-US ambassador Anne Patterson told Washington: "Our major concern is not having an Islamic militant steal an entire weapon but rather the chance someone working in the government of Pakistan facilities could gradually smuggle enough material out to eventually make a weapon."

Another cable concerning a US intelligence briefing in 2008 said: "Despite pending economic catastrophe, Pakistan is producing nuclear weapons at a faster rate than any other country in the world."

Mr Hasan said that since the government of President Asif Ali Zardari had come to power 27 months ago "we have had a very successful, foolproof control and command system looking after the nuclear arsenal".

Mr Hasan admitted the leaks were harmful.

"You are dealing with the relationship with states. You have built them over the years and all of a sudden something gets out - it's top secret, it's classified, it harms the relationship," he said.

Mr Hasan also said Pakistan would not accept any US help on nuclear security "because we are a sovereign nation".

Pakistan foreign office spokesman Abdul Basit told Agence France-Presse news agency the fears expressed in the leaks "were misplaced and doubtless fall in the realm of condescension". He said they reflected "historical biases against Pakistan".

In the leaked material Ms Patterson also said there was "no chance" of Pakistan "abandoning support for [militant] groups".

The Pakistan government, she added, saw militant groups "as an important part of its national security apparatus against India".
 The cables question Mr Zardari's relationship with the military
The US also expressed concern about tensions between the powerful Pakistani army and Mr Zardari.

In material from March 2009, US cables noted that army chief Gen Ashfaq Parvez Kayani might "however reluctantly" put pressure on President Zardari to step down, although he "distrusted [opposition leader] Nawaz [Sharif] even more".

The BBC's Aleem Maqbool in Islamabad says military officials here believe the Wikileaks disclosures are being used as a stick with which to bully Pakistan into giving up its nuclear programme.

But he says there are many observers who will see the concerns raised as valid, particularly considering the tens of thousands of people here whose work is connected to the nuclear programme.

'Red Notice'
 
The US has condemned the Wikileaks disclosures, published by the UK Guardian newspaper, as an attack on the world community.
 
On Wednesday, US Secretary of State Hillary Clinton, who is in Kazakhstan for the Organisation for Security and Cooperation in Europe (OSCE) summit, said she had raised the issue with the leaders she had met and none had expressed any concerns about continuing diplomatic work with the US.

The communications between the US state department and its embassies and consulates around the world were sent between 1966 and 2010.

Wikileaks has so far posted only 291 of the 251,287 messages it says it has obtained. However, all of the messages have been made available to five publications, including the New York Times and the Guardian.

No-one has been charged with passing them to Wikileaks, but suspicion has fallen on US Army Private Bradley Manning, an intelligence analyst arrested in Iraq in June and charged over an earlier leak of a classified video.

The cables release is the third mass Wikileaks publication of classified documents; it published 77,000 secret US files on the Afghan conflict in July, and 400,000 documents about the Iraq war in October.

Meanwhile, Interpol has issued a "Red Notice" asking people to contact the police if they have any information about Mr Assange's whereabouts.

It said the Australian was wanted for questioning in Sweden over an alleged sex offence, which he has denied.

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Re: Wikileaks and Julian Assange Mega-thread
« Reply #41 on: December 01, 2010, 21:09:07 »
More on the latest from Interpol (also attached if link doesn't work):
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LYON, France - INTERPOL has made public the Red Notice, or international wanted persons alert, for WikiLeaks founder Julian Assange at the request of Swedish authorities who want to question him in connection with a number of sexual offences.

The Red Notice for the 39-year-old Australian, which was issued to law enforcement in all 188 INTERPOL member countries on 20 November, has now been made publicly available by INTERPOL following official authorization by Sweden.

All INTERPOL National Central Bureaus (NCBs) have also been advised to ensure that their border control agencies are made aware of Assange's Red Notice status, which is a request for any country to identify or locate an individual with a view to their provisional arrest and extradition.

Many of INTERPOL's member countries however, consider a Red Notice a valid request for provisional arrest, especially if they are linked to the requesting country via a bilateral extradition treaty. In cases where arrests are made based on a Red Notice, these are made by national police officials in INTERPOL member countries.

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Re: Wikileaks and Julian Assange Mega-thread
« Reply #42 on: December 01, 2010, 21:46:16 »
I remember when they first called him a child molester. Poor translation from the Swedish. Turns out he was dating two women at once in Sweden. After the two talked to each other charges were laid and them promptly dropped after a very brief investigation. Swedish authorities allowed him to exit the country.  He hasn't been charged and no one bothered to call his lawyer(they had the number) to ask him to a appear for an interview.

Turns out the next leak is a Bank of America hard drive from a senior executive.
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Re: Wikileaks and Julian Assange Mega-thread
« Reply #43 on: December 01, 2010, 21:48:23 »
Ironically, the best thing I'm getting out of this, is where to go for my news. I get to either choose an objective news media hat publishes what they're given, analyzes what they're given, and realizes the overall effect on the world is minimal - having done nothing but shaken up world diplomacy a bit (which it needed); or, I can choose the media that avoids directly confronting the issues, and instead only comments on what cables relate to themselves or has some juicy gossip about Canadians (CBC), or avoids it altogether and instead focuses on demonizing the source (CNN). CNN has Assange as its front page - and spent a good 12-24 hours discussing how he's been placed on Interpol's "Most Wanted List".


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Re: Wikileaks and Julian Assange Mega-thread
« Reply #44 on: December 01, 2010, 21:52:16 »
CNN has Assange as its front page - and spent a good 12-24 hours discussing how he's been placed on Interpol's "Most Wanted List".
lol. He's only wanted for questioning.

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Re: Wikileaks and Julian Assange Mega-thread
« Reply #45 on: December 02, 2010, 06:42:06 »
Assange faces 'assassination risk'

LONDON - WikiLeaks founder Julian Assange is at risk of being assassinated over the release of secret U.S. documents and will remain in hiding for his own security, the website's spokesman said Wednesday.

Spokesman Kristinn Hrafnsson said the Australian's safety was at stake after U.S. politicians called for him to face treason charges and an adviser to Canadian Prime Minister Stephen Harper reportedly said he should be killed.

"We have had threats from governments and commentators, some of them totally preposterous, even calls for the assassination of Julian Assange," Hrafnsson said during a debate at the Frontline Club in London.

"He is justified in being concerned for his safety. When you have people calling, for example, for his assassination, it is best to keep a low profile," he added.

Hrafnsson said Assange's whereabouts would remain secret. He is known to have recently spent time in Sweden and London and is the subject of an Interpol arrest request over a rape allegation in Sweden.

He has faced calls from the United States for his arrest, with Mike Huckabee, a former Republican presidential hopeful, reportedly saying that those responsible for the leaks were guilty of treason and should face execution, CNN reported.

Separately, Tom Flanagan, an adviser to Canada's prime minister, said flippantly in a television interview that Assange "should be assassinated" and that U.S. President Barack Obama "should put out a contract and maybe use a drone."

Hrafnsson, an Icelandic former journalist, defended Assange's decision to remain in hiding and not to face up to the Swedish arrest warrant, saying the timing of the Interpol alert was "curious".

"He is in a secret location and working on the project with a group of our staff. It is necessary in the circumstances to keep his location secret," Hrafnsson said.

The spokesman also pointed to the fact that WikiLeaks was suffering repeated cyber attacks as evidence that it was being targeted.

"We know the interest of the U.S. government in bringing down WikiLeaks," he said.

U.S. Secretary of State Hillary Clinton accused WikiLeaks on Monday of an "attack on the international community" by releasing the documents, but Hrafnsson insisted that WikiLeaks had done nothing illegal.

"There has been a lot of talk about legal actions taken against Wikileaks and Julian, about how we have done something illegal, that we are criminals, but we have not seen any reference to how we are supposed to have broken the law," he said.
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Re: Wikileaks and Julian Assange Mega-thread
« Reply #46 on: December 02, 2010, 16:31:58 »
WikiLeaks revelations? Or, burnin’ rubber
http://unambig.com/wikileaks-revelations-or-burnin-rubber/

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A lot of smoke, very little fire.  This is what Spiegel Online (Der Spiegel is one of the major media recipients of material from Assiduous ******* Assange) manages to highlight today, focused on Russia...

INTERACTIVE ATLAS

http://www.spiegel.de/flash/flash-24861.html
...

So now a hatred-driven, mainly single target site, rather than a principled one aimed at tous azimuts. Thanks to that AAA fellow.

The Guardian also has an interactive map:
http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/interactive/2010/nov/28/us-embassy-cables-wikileaks

And the NY Times lists cables on Canada here:
http://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2010/11/28/world/20101128-cables-viewer.html?ref=wikileaks#report/canada-04OTTAWA3115

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Re: Wikileaks and Julian Assange Mega-thread
« Reply #47 on: December 02, 2010, 17:45:39 »
Actually, some of these leaks are quite comical.
As soon as something or another tarnishes in the least the Americans
they get all hyper about it and start sending out "secret wires" one to the other ;D

I enjoy the wire on anti-American Canadian TV ;D
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But.....hey
American TV colourfully paints whomever they want.
Are the middle eastern countries sending out "hot wires" saying that the U.S. is tarnishing them ?
I guess that is why in the U.S. they say "Don't tread on me" (while I tread on you) :nana:


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Re: Wikileaks and Julian Assange Mega-thread
« Reply #48 on: December 03, 2010, 07:22:57 »
Defence staff warned to steer clear of WikiLeaks docs
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OTTAWA — Defence Department staff have been warned against using government computers to sift through secret documents released by WikiLeaks.

An email dubbed "Wikileaks Notice" in the subject line says military computers are "not to be used to visit the Wikileaks (sic) site or any other websites containing such information."

The memo from the assistant deputy minister for information management says doing so amounts to "unauthorized use" under the department's "acceptable use of the Internet, Defence Intranet and other electronic networks and computers" directive.

Canadian Forces IT staff "may monitor attempts to view this site's material and will report attempts to the affected chains of command," it adds.

The department fears accessing the site could expose government computers to "malicious search engine poisoning attacks" and that third parties might "collect and exploit visitor data or deliver malicious software through downloaded files."

As some of the information may be classified, downloading it onto or viewing it from government computers could also be a breach of security policy, it says.

Staff were also warned to consider the similar risk of contamination to personal computers, smart phones and flash drives that access the site. The memo notes transferring data from such devices to department computers is "not authorized."

Defence spokesman John MacLean said a similar warning was issued in July after the whistleblower website released thousands of war logs concerning Afghanistan.
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Re: Wikileaks and Julian Assange Mega-thread
« Reply #49 on: December 03, 2010, 10:23:08 »
Yep, Wikileaks documents are well known to contain worms. For an org that is so against the things they leak, they sure do a lot of it themselves.
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