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How much would you guys say an Infantry soldier in reserves generally gets paid per year?

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go down to recruiting archives, and go to pay scales.
or go to  Join The Forces and find the pay scales for reserves there.

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Ruthless4Life

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Also, you can go to your local regiment website where they have more detailed information on the payscale.

BTW, you‘re from Vancouver, are you joining the Seaforth Highlanders of Canada?

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Actually here is the current pay tables

 Current RES pay table

Here is the main page with all the tables

 All pay tables

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Go Seaforths!

MuayThaiFighter

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When they say you do helicopter operations at Seaforth Highlanders of Canada do they mean actually flying helicopters or working along with the guys that fly them?

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Or if you want to parade at a regiment that has more than just a platoon show up, go Westies (oohhh, yes i did!). But seriously, whichever one you go to, more power to ya. And re: choppers, rides are few and far in between, the first ones cool, after that it‘s just another mode of transport.

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we have 3 platoons that regularly show up, not one.

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If you want to fly a helicopter, you need to

a. be a canadian citizen
b. have a university degree
c. be in the reg force OR have a helicopter liscence already (worth about $15,000) and be near a rotary wing capable base
d. be in the air force

so, there‘s not even the slightest, vaguest chance in he|| about flying one as a reserve army NCM... EVER!!!
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Helo rides are great but only for the take off.
Prefer to land on my own two feet.
Have about 2000 take offs in them but only 250 or so landings.The rest we handled on our own.
American 53‘s are a treat.Big mothers.

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I never saw helicopter ops at the Seaforth regiment when i was an NCM before, and certainly not this last year. Medic, do you know anything about that?

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Hi

I was wondering about the Canadian Forces pay scale.  Not that it really bothere me, cause I think there‘s no better job then the CF.  All I know about the pay scale is moving down and to the right is GOOD!!!

I was told pay depends on education adn time in.  is this correct?  I‘m not exactly sure how they fit you in each pay category and I‘m not talking about specialist stuff, like combat diving, jump pay, EOD etc.  For example if you have a master‘s degree or a doctorate what category would you fit under.  Similarly if you‘ve been in for 20 years and you‘re a Warrant what would yo be in the same pay scale as a Warrant that‘s been in for 25 years.  If you hold a professional designation like a CA or P.Eng. do they consider that in your pay.  For example lawyers, doctors, pilots get paid more.  Lawyers, doctors, chaplains are commissioned captains. why is that?  Engineers and medical officers get signing bonuses is this merely because there are a lack of them.  Are there signing bonuses for NCM trades?
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Yeah.. comms.. i think that if your already a qualified sig op, then they give you a 40 000$ bonus..

maybe someone can confirm this tho
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Originally posted by chk2fung:
[qb] Hi

I was wondering about the Canadian Forces pay scale.  Not that it really bothere me, cause I think there‘s no better job then the CF.  All I know about the pay scale is moving down and to the right is GOOD!!!

I was told pay depends on education adn time in.  is this correct?  I‘m not exactly sure how they fit you in each pay category and I‘m not talking about specialist stuff, like combat diving, jump pay, EOD etc.  For example if you have a master‘s degree or a doctorate what category would you fit under.  Similarly if you‘ve been in for 20 years and you‘re a Warrant what would yo be in the same pay scale as a Warrant that‘s been in for 25 years.  If you hold a professional designation like a CA or P.Eng. do they consider that in your pay.  For example lawyers, doctors, pilots get paid more.  Lawyers, doctors, chaplains are commissioned captains. why is that?  Engineers and medical officers get signing bonuses is this merely because there are a lack of them.  Are there signing bonuses for NCM trades? [/qb]
That‘s correct, moving to the right and down is good. If you are an untrained recruit(ie. you aren‘t trained in your specific trade), you will start as a private. They make just over 2,000 a month(about 26,000 a year), before taxes and get a pay increase every year on the anniversary of their enlistment date. Then after 4 years(sometimes 3) you will be automatically be promoted to Corporal, which has a starting pay around 40,000 a year and a pay topping out at just under 48,000 a year. From there, you have to earn all your promotions from there. Every year you will be evaluated by your superiors and then from a pool of all the people in your trade, they will make a merit list. So when someone retires, the first person on the list will be promoted, when another person  retires, the second person on the merit list will be promoted. You get the picture. Every year the merit list is redone to reflect the past year. Specialist pay is for some select trades(ie. Technicians) and they get a couple hundred extra a month just for being in the trade. On top of that the combat pay, jump pay, hazard pay, etc. is paid to all those who qualify.

If you have a Master‘s or Doctorate degree you would most likely go in as an Officer. Starting off as a 2Lt. then being automatically promoted to Lt. after a couple years and then Captain after that. Captain‘s make around 80,000 a year. Not bad. From there they can be promoted every few years to Maj., Lt-Col, Col, etc. just like NCM. Like NCM‘s, they are put to a merit board to decide who is most worthy of a promote.  

Your pay isn‘t really dictated by the time you have in. You get paid based on your rank and time in at that rank. When you get promoted there are 3-4 pay increases that you get automatically each year. So a Warrant Officer, would get a pay increase of 100-200/month for the first 3-4 years he/she was at that rank and then after that their pay would stay the same until they were promoted again and the cycle would repeat itself. By the way, I‘m not sure how much the increases are or how much WO‘s make, but it‘s around the 100-200 range.

If you had a degree like P.Eng, you probably wouldn‘t get any extra pay to the best of my knowledge. You would be enlisted as an officer probably and make the same as most other officer at your rank. Lawyers, Pilots, and Doctors are a whole other ball of wax. They get extra pay and signing bonuses because the CF is desperate for them and wants to retain them once they get them. That‘s why they make so much money, the CF is trying to compete with civilian companies for doctors, lawyers, and pilots and if they knew they could get more in the civilian world, they would jump at the chance(money makes the world go ‘round!)

There are sometimes signing bonuses for NCM‘s. Depends on your training, the need for new recruits in the trade, etc. If they are low on people and you are trained, you will probably get some sort of signing bonus.

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Basic captain pay is 60k a year and you‘ll have to earn all the ranks above captain just like you earn all the ranks above cpl.

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Originally posted by gryphon664:
[qb] Yeah.. comms.. i think that if your already a qualified sig op, then they give you a 40 000$ bonus..

maybe someone can confirm this tho [/qb]
The $40,000 bonuses are for signal officers, and other engineering officers.  

Some NCM trades have either a $10k and $25k bonuses.

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I‘m curious, if I go into the Reg Force as an officer DEO (say, into the infrantry or as an arty), what sort of pay could I expect? Any ideas?  How quickly does one work up the pay scale and how does it work? I‘m checking out the info on the d-net site, but is this really in line with reality? I‘ve read a few recent articles on how the forces will be losing officers because it can‘t keep up with the private sector and was wondering if it is as bad as the media makes it out to be?

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Just to give you some sort of comparison, I am a 3 year 2Lt (Airforce training is LONG) with a 4 year Degree.  All the magic works out that I get approx $42K/year before taxes.  That is what you can expect while on training (probably a little less) until you are MOC qualified.  Then it goes higher.
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Thanks, that helps.

It looks like a newby officer is equal in pay to the fed gov public service classification of PM2. To be honest, I would have expected the pay to be slighty higher given that many new officers have a university degree and other experience (if they are DEO), etc.

Am I right to assume that increases in pay happen fairly frequently and that, once you are more experienced and have taken courses, etc., you make a more modest wage?  

I also see that the military is offering signing bonuses to certain types of professions or backgrounds. I am curious, why don‘t they attract and maintain their officers by paying them more rather than using signing bonuses alone?

It seems that the wages are a little out of whack with the rest of society, even low-level fed public service positions are making more.

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I am a PM-02 in the federal gov‘t and I make $48k per year, so I disagree with the statement that a 2Lt makes about the same as me.  But then again, perhaps I am thinking of reservist salaries...
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I think PM-2 starts around 43. At least this is what the PSC website says. If you‘ve been with the feds for a while, I think you get paid more within that pm grouping. But hey, I was only taking a guess.

The problem is still this: the men and women of the CDN forces are well trained and put their life on the line (or are at least expected to) and their wages are still pretty low in comparison to other gov jobs. This is, of course, a wild blanket statement, but I think that, in general, it holds up.

But, does anyone else have any input? What sort of wage would a reg force junior officer make? How about a Cpt?

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Reg force GSO Captain will start at around $57-60K, maxes out in the high 70‘s
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My dad has always told me that if you really want to be an officer the money isn‘t what matters.