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Re: Medical Technician - Unskilled, Semi-skilled, Skilled Application
« Reply #125 on: May 24, 2018, 14:44:11 »
I am currently a BC Ambulance employee looking for a contact of a Regular Force Medical Technician to ask some questions. Anyone know anyone that I’d be able to email or call?

There are a good handful of Med Tech's on this forum (PRes, Reg Force both serving and retired) and at least 1 Health Services Recruiter (if not more) - best to post your question here and someone will respond :-)

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Re: Medical Technician - Unskilled, Semi-skilled, Skilled Application
« Reply #126 on: May 24, 2018, 16:48:20 »
Good idea for sure,

1. Have you worked in a Provincial service and left it to join the forces as a Reg? Are you happy with that move? Do you still work PT civilian service?

2. Is there training up to a ACP?

3. Possibilities of even moving up to being a nurse?

Pretty much my t major questions I'd say. I have always wanted to join the forces thinking more seriously about it everyday.

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Re: Medical Technician - Unskilled, Semi-skilled, Skilled Application
« Reply #127 on: May 24, 2018, 17:04:10 »
Is there training up to a ACP?

Agreed, some of the biggest reasons why we only have a 17% maintenance of PCP license rate for Med Techs is operational / training tempo, geographic location of on-car opportunities, local ambulance service pre-requisites for on car rotations, and number of on-car billets available.

Paramedicine is provincially regulated. Requirements and issue of a licence to practice are set by the individual regulators.

In Ontario, to work as a PCP, you must be a licenced AEMCA,

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5. (1) The operator of a land ambulance service shall not employ a person to provide patient care, whether on a full-time or part-time basis, or engage a person to provide patient care as a full-time volunteer, unless the person is a paramedic who, holds the qualifications of an advanced emergency medical care assistant ( AEMCA )


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Recognition of QL5A & Challenge of AEMCA exam:

Reference A is a confirmation letter by the Ontario Ministry of Health and Long-Term Care, Emergency Health Services Branch, recognizing the CF QL5 Med Tech as meeting the PCP requirements to challenge the AEMCA exam, all QL5 Med Techs are encouraged to prepare for and write this exam with approval through their Chain of Command.  Upon successful completion of this exam, those Med Techs will have access to On-car opportunities to complete their MCSP in Ontario.

Pretty much my t major questions I'd say.

Not to dissuade you from joining. But, if you have any major financial  questions,

These are the top municipal earners from last time I checked ( 2016 ). Your earnings will surely be less. But, the potential is there. Notes are the same as above.
https://army.ca/forums/index.php/topic,105151.msg1482454.html#msg1482454

Regular Force Non-Commissioned Members (NCM) Rates - Monthly Rates (in dollars) after March 2017
http://www.forces.gc.ca/en/caf-community-pay/reg-force-ncm-class-c-rates.page

As always, Recruiting is your most trusted source of information.

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Re: Medical Technician - Unskilled, Semi-skilled, Skilled Application
« Reply #128 on: May 26, 2018, 07:14:39 »

3. Possibilities of even moving up to being a nurse?


Nursing is a completely different occupation. Being a med tech won't stop you from becoming a nurse, but it also doesn't give you a leg up towards becoming a nurse.    I know an MP who recently became a nurse, as well as master bombardier, and an infanteer. To be a nursing officer, you need a BSc in Nursing. You cannot simply level up or get promoted to Nursing Officer.
Keep in mind that Nursing officers are mostly administrators and paper pushers. In Canada, they don't get a whole lot of patient contact. On deployment is another story.

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Re: Medical Technician - Unskilled, Semi-skilled, Skilled Application
« Reply #129 on: July 19, 2018, 21:32:08 »
Is there a difference in trade responsibility if we apply as an officer or an NCM?
I hear officers get less hands on work and more admin tasks...is this true?

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Re: Medical Technician - Unskilled, Semi-skilled, Skilled Application
« Reply #130 on: July 19, 2018, 21:38:13 »
Is there a difference in trade responsibility if we apply as an officer or an NCM?
I hear officers get less hands on work and more admin tasks...is this true?

Do you mean apply as a Doctor vs a Med Tech?

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Re: Medical Technician - Unskilled, Semi-skilled, Skilled Application
« Reply #131 on: July 19, 2018, 22:18:18 »
Do you mean apply as a Doctor vs a Med Tech?

I mean applying to a Medical Assistant Trade as an Officer vs NCM. Is there a difference in work/patient interaction/medical training?
I'm a little confused between Medical Assistant vs Physician Assistant, aren't they essentially the same? I think what I want to apply for is physician assistant.
Thank you.
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Re: Medical Technician - Unskilled, Semi-skilled, Skilled Application
« Reply #132 on: July 19, 2018, 22:22:30 »
I mean applying to a Medical Assistant Trade as an Officer vs NCM. Is there a difference in work/patient interaction/medical training?

Thank you.

Medical Assistant is a Primary Reserve NCM occupation only.
This is not an occupation in the Regular Force, and it is not a Officer Occupation.

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Re: Medical Technician - Unskilled, Semi-skilled, Skilled Application
« Reply #133 on: July 19, 2018, 22:32:28 »
Medical Assistant is a Primary Reserve NCM occupation only.
This is not an occupation in the Regular Force, and it is not a Officer Occupation.

I see, thank you for the clarification.
Do you know if it is possible to apply for Direct Entry as an Officer to a Med Tech-PA post? Or one must pass a PA program in order to do that?

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Re: Medical Technician - Unskilled, Semi-skilled, Skilled Application
« Reply #134 on: July 19, 2018, 22:42:07 »
I see, thank you for the clarification.
Do you know if it is possible to apply for Direct Entry as an Officer to a Med Tech-PA post? Or one must pass a PA program in order to do that?

No, it is not possible.  It may be possible in the future, but that may be 10, 15, 20 years down the road.

Here is the typical road to becoming a PA.


http://canadianpa.ca/militarypa/
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How I become a Physician Assistant with the Canadian Armed Forces

Like the majority of Physician Assistants who are currently serving in the Canadian Armed Forces (CAF), I started my career as a Medical Technician (AKA- Medic) 17 years ago with the Canadian Army. During this time I have been employed as both, a Med-Tech and a Physician Assistant (PA) in various military and civilian settings. While serving in my 12th year as a Medical Technician (Med-Tech), I was given the opportunity to become a Physician Assistant through a CAF meriting system. This system is based on set medical and professional criteria, only those whom have the greatest chances of being successful within the military’s 2 year program are selected. If you decide to take the PA route you go through PA education at the Canadian Forces Health Services Academy (CFHSA) located at Canadian Forces Base (CFB) in Borden, Ontario. Once you have successfully completed the CAF PA program you are required to write the CAPA Certification exam which if you are successful you become a Physician Assistant Officer.
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Re: Medical Technician - Unskilled, Semi-skilled, Skilled Application
« Reply #135 on: July 19, 2018, 23:02:47 »
No, it is not possible.  It may be possible in the future, but that may be 10, 15, 20 years down the road.

Here is the typical road to becoming a PA.


http://canadianpa.ca/militarypa/

Do you think they'll make an exception for foreign trained medical doctors who wish to be re-trained as PA Officers in the CF?

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Re: Medical Technician - Unskilled, Semi-skilled, Skilled Application
« Reply #136 on: July 19, 2018, 23:47:40 »
Do you think they'll make an exception for foreign trained medical doctors who wish to be re-trained as PA Officers in the CF?

No, they won't.

If you want to be a PA, and are an International Medical Graduate (IMG) follow the suggested route and enrol in one of the three civilian PA programmes in Canada.  It won't get you into the CAF as a PA but you can practice as a civilian.

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IMGs MAY APPLY TO ALL 3 CANADIAN PA PROGRAMS

To become a Physician Assistant as an IMG, you must complete an accredited Physician Assistant Program in Canada. IMGs cannot skip or advance past any aspects of the program due to their prior medical education. To complete a PA program successfully, you must complete both the first didactic year and second clinical rotation year, finishing all courses for the program. Luckily, the PA program is approximately only 2 years (~24 months), and if you have completed your undergraduate degree, in addition to your graduate degree and with your health care experience, it is likely you qualify to apply to all 3 civilian PA programs in Canada (Manitoba, University of Toronto, and McMaster).

TO APPLY YOU MUST BE A CANADIAN CITIZEN OR PR

All PA program candidates must be Canadian citizens or permanent residents in Canada. A permanent resident is someone who is a citizen of another country, but has immigrated to Canada. Students and workers who are on temporary work visas are not considered permanent residents. You are not considered a permanent resident or citizen by marriage. Canadian citizens are those that may have been born in Canada, or have a parent born in Canada. You can also apply to be a Canadian Citizen if you have had Permanent Resident status, and have physically lived in Canada for 1460 days during the six years prior to your Canadian Citizen application with adequate knowledge of English.

Or follow the route that this Med Tech took.
http://espritdecorps.ca/kay/2015/4/7/military-physician-assistants-how-one-medical-technician-is-changing-the-game
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Re: Medical Technician - Unskilled, Semi-skilled, Skilled Application
« Reply #137 on: July 20, 2018, 00:09:22 »
Thank you all for such wonderful suggestions. I think corporal for life is an enticing option for me at the moment.