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Re: Cyber Operator trade Mega Thread
« Reply #200 on: October 12, 2019, 13:32:54 »
I would use the closest french translation from simplified technical English ASD-STE100.


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Re: Cyber Operator trade Mega Thread
« Reply #201 on: December 28, 2019, 21:22:19 »
Hi, Mates!
May I ask about the Cyber Ops trade ( https://forces.ca/en/career/cyber-operator ), if someone would know in which rank the candidate will be on its BOQT?
I've read somewhere that for some specialized jobs, the candidate is ranked as soldier only in the BMQ.
I would like to confirm it with some veteran, if possible.

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Re: Cyber Operator trade Mega Thread
« Reply #202 on: December 29, 2019, 09:21:42 »
Hi, Mates!
May I ask about the Cyber Ops trade ( https://forces.ca/en/career/cyber-operator ), if someone would know in which rank the candidate will be on its BOQT?
I've read somewhere that for some specialized jobs, the candidate is ranked as soldier only in the BMQ.
I would like to confirm it with some veteran, if possible.

Cyber Operator is a non-commissioned trade. As a candidate on Basic Military Qualification they would be at the rank of PRivate (Recruit), or for the navy, "Orginary Seaman". While there are a few trades that offer quicker promotion to Corporal / Leading Seaman, such as Military Police, I haven't seen anything suggesting that Cyber Operator is one of them. Howeer once you're a corporal and trained in your trade, they do make specialist pay to increase their salary- it's about an extra $8400 a year.

As a cyber op, you'd spend your first couple years going to college, paid for by the CAF. The skillsets learned by Cyber Ops are already in high demand and only getting better, so it's a certification and professional experience that gives a lot of options for a post-CAF career. I see the police and intelligence communities screaming for people with this knowledge, and corporate/public sector information security branches likewise badly need people who can do this.
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Re: Cyber Operator trade Mega Thread
« Reply #203 on: December 30, 2019, 21:20:15 »
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As a cyber op, you'd spend your first couple years going to college, paid for by the CAF.
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Hi, Brihard!
Thanks a lot for your words!
It is really tempting as a trade.
Unfortunatelly, I can't afford 2-3 years being paid as soldier. I am from IT, I have skills and experiences on Information Security, including in a SOC team, but for this while the CAF doesn't seem to be accepting DEO for this trade.  :(

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Re: Cyber Operator trade Mega Thread
« Reply #204 on: December 30, 2019, 21:44:25 »
Hi, Brihard!
Thanks a lot for your words!
It is really tempting as a trade.
Unfortunatelly, I can't afford 2-3 years being paid as soldier. I am from IT, I have skills and experiences on Information Security, including in a SOC team, but for this while the CAF doesn't seem to be accepting DEO for this trade.  :(

If you want to use your skills in protecting Canada, have you considered Communication Security Establishment, or Canadian Security Intelligence Service? Both do some pretty amazing work and have a huge need for skilled and loyal IT professionals.
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Re: Cyber Operator trade Mega Thread
« Reply #205 on: December 31, 2019, 20:31:23 »
(...) have you considered Communication Security Establishment, or Canadian Security Intelligence Service? Both do some pretty amazing work and have a huge need for skilled and loyal IT professionals.

I've seen some months ago, some job posts from CSIS, but they were asking for more years of experience in Information Security that I have.
But, anyways, thanks for this extra tip also.  :D

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Re: Cyber Operator trade Mega Thread
« Reply #206 on: December 31, 2019, 20:51:33 »
I've seen some months ago, some job posts from CSIS, but they were asking for more years of experience in Information Security that I have.
But, anyways, thanks for this extra tip also.  :D

Check out CSE. They have hiring for recent IT grads.
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Re: Cyber Operator trade Mega Thread
« Reply #207 on: January 01, 2020, 09:41:41 »
What would be the officer equivalent of this trade?

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Re: Cyber Operator trade Mega Thread
« Reply #208 on: January 01, 2020, 09:45:28 »
What would be the officer equivalent of this trade?
There isn't one at this point.

It's supervised generally by SigO and CELE.
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Re: Cyber Operator trade Mega Thread
« Reply #209 on: January 01, 2020, 17:43:44 »
There isn't one at this point.

Sure as hell hope we don't create another Officer trade to handle it.

As for pay, Cyber Op is Spec 1, which will outperform most Officer pay scales for quite a few years before promotion to Captain.

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Re: Cyber Operator trade Mega Thread
« Reply #210 on: January 01, 2020, 20:26:39 »
Check out CSE. They have hiring for recent IT grads.

Hello, Brihard!
I didn't realised that one about CSE. Thanks again for this valuable tip.

Happy New Year for all!  :nod: :D

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Re: Cyber Operator trade Mega Thread
« Reply #211 on: January 03, 2020, 18:59:04 »
Sure as hell hope we don't create another Officer trade to handle it.

As for pay, Cyber Op is Spec 1, which will outperform most Officer pay scales for quite a few years before promotion to Captain.
There has been lots of talk for the past few years. SigO and CELE both with hats in the ring. Plenty of chatter about SubOccs vs streams vs trade. AERE may be jumping into the mix now as well.
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Re: Cyber Operator trade Mega Thread
« Reply #212 on: January 05, 2020, 01:39:22 »
Hello:

Does cyber Operator work with everybody? Some people spend a lot of effort and they don't want to waste their time with politicians who need a big social life.

Is it a problem to test security issues before an interview? I will call to explain what I am trying to do before. However, I do not want problem with police. I have software projects in my computers and don't want someone who plays with that. 

Is it possible to work and study for another diploma in math or fundamental science? I dislike these security certifications.