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CH47 Chinook
« on: February 18, 2007, 12:29:34 »
I read on a recent thread, sorry that I can't remember which forum it was posted on, that the Government plans to replace the Griffons with the new Chinooks.  While I applaud the decision to purchase the Chinooks (long overdue), I have a concern.  If this is true, would 17 Chinooks be able to meet all of the army's rotary lift needs.  My thinking is that if the Griffon is to be phased out, then it would make more sense to either buy more Chinooks or order new light to medium utility helicopters (such as the CH148 Cyclone) to supplement the Chinook fleet.  I would like some feedback from those would have more knowledge than myself on this, could 17 Chinooks meet all of the army's rotary airlift needs without putting too much strain on those airframes? :cdn:
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Re: CH47 Chinook
« Reply #1 on: February 18, 2007, 12:33:13 »
I read on a recent thread, sorry that I can't remember which forum it was posted on, that the Government plans to replace the Griffons with the new Chinooks.  While I applaud the decision to purchase the Chinooks (long overdue), I have a concern.  If this is true, would 17 Chinooks be able to meet all of the army's rotary lift needs.  My thinking is that if the Griffon is to be phased out, then it would make more sense to either buy more Chinooks or order new light to medium utility helicopters (such as the CH148 Cyclone) to supplement the Chinook fleet.  I would like some feedback from those would have more knowledge than myself on this, could 17 Chinooks meet all of the army's rotary airlift needs without putting too much strain on those airframes? :cdn:

The Chinook is not replacing the CH-146.......

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Re: CH47 Chinook
« Reply #2 on: February 18, 2007, 12:35:58 »
Thanks CDN Navigator.

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« Reply #3 on: February 18, 2007, 12:36:51 »
Thanks CDN Navigator.

I am CDN...but i am not a navigator........look again

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Re: CH47 Chinook
« Reply #4 on: February 18, 2007, 13:01:46 »
 ;D

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Re: CH47 Chinook
« Reply #6 on: February 18, 2007, 13:08:54 »
Oops my bad CDNaviator ;D

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Re: CH47 Chinook
« Reply #7 on: February 18, 2007, 13:33:59 »
Apostle, the CH147A (I guessing on the designator, based on the original) will complement vice compete with the CH146 Griffon.  They have their own strengths.  I can tell you personally, the Griffon rocks for what is (honestly) asked of it -- it puts a smile on my face every time I fly it.

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p.s.  CA...maybe having 4-5 navigators all around you is kind of rubbing off?  :P

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Re: CH47 Chinook
« Reply #8 on: February 18, 2007, 13:36:57 »
Oops my bad CDNaviator ;D

Ha ha...I made the same mistake...I think you're going to have to change your name... ;D

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Re: CH47 Chinook
« Reply #9 on: February 18, 2007, 19:35:19 »
I don't know why but I am pretty sure that G2Golf like that when people make that mistake  ;D
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Re: CH47 Chinook
« Reply #10 on: February 18, 2007, 19:56:17 »
Ran across this photo of seating for 55 troops. Although I dont think they would be able to bring a ruck. :)



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Re: CH47 Chinook
« Reply #11 on: February 18, 2007, 20:04:11 »
Nice.... (and tight)
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Re: CH47 Chinook
« Reply #12 on: February 18, 2007, 20:16:18 »
But when you just have to pack em in, just take out the seats. ;D


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Re: CH47 Chinook
« Reply #13 on: February 18, 2007, 20:21:08 »
just imagine if someone farted in that.... ;)
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Re: CH47 Chinook
« Reply #14 on: February 18, 2007, 20:22:00 »
Ran across photos of the PPCLI in Afghanistan - the early days. :)








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Re: CH47 Chinook
« Reply #15 on: February 18, 2007, 20:36:40 »
very nice....and someday that will be a Cdn helicopter they are disembarking from!! ;D :cdn:

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Re: CH47 Chinook
« Reply #16 on: February 18, 2007, 20:39:56 »
I believe the "world record" for the number of pax on a single Chinook is (was?) held by RAF.  They carried 84 pax on a single lift during the Falklands War.

The Canadian record is held by a joint 447/450 crew who flew Chinook 009 during RV85.  68 pax on a single lift, 2 platoons of the CAR, plus their RSM.   According to my logbook the pilot was Capt Tessier of 447 and the Co-Pilot was Capt Jim Baldaro of 450 Sqn.  Can't remember who the FE was, and I was the LM.  

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Re: CH47 Chinook
« Reply #17 on: February 18, 2007, 20:40:26 »
very nice....and someday that will be a Cdn helicopter they are disembarking from!! ;D :cdn:

Well, to be truthful, some of the ones used by Canadians there over the last few years have BEEN Canadian birds in a previous lifetime.  ;)
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« Reply #18 on: February 18, 2007, 20:45:29 »
Well, to be truthful, some of the ones used by Canadians there over the last few years have BEEN Canadian birds in a previous lifetime.  ;)

We just gave them to the Dutch to fly...right?  ;D

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« Reply #19 on: February 18, 2007, 20:57:06 »
We just gave them to the Dutch to fly...right?  ;D

Just being polite  ;D. We knew that if we ever needed to use them and they said no, we could just tell Diemaco to halt shipments of weapons to the Dutch.   ^-^
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Re: CH47 Chinook
« Reply #20 on: February 19, 2007, 08:12:37 »
very nice....and someday that will be a Cdn helicopter they are disembarking from!! ;D :cdn:

If the Chinooks in the pictures are Dutch.... they are (or were) ours :(
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Re: CH47 Chinook
« Reply #21 on: February 19, 2007, 09:16:46 »
In reference to the picture of the troops crammed in like sardines, The worst ride is better than the best walk  8)
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Re: CH47 Chinook
« Reply #22 on: February 19, 2007, 11:48:57 »
In reference to the picture of the troops crammed in like sardines, The worst ride is better than the best walk  8)

When I was Chaplain to RCD in early nineties they used to say "Why walk where you can drive?" and "Any fool can be uncomfortable in the field." Sort of along the same lines I guess.

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Re: CH47 Chinook
« Reply #23 on: February 23, 2007, 13:14:00 »
the Griffon rocks for what is (honestly) asked of it -- it puts a smile on my face every time I fly it.

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Re: CH47 Chinook
« Reply #24 on: February 23, 2007, 13:56:55 »
Apostle, the CH147A (I guessing on the designator, based on the original) will complement vice compete with the CH146 Griffon.

Its actually the CH147 "F" model not the A, that we are planning to acquire.  It is far more capable, way more bells and whistles and almost double the range with the extra fuel tanks :)