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Re: PRETC question? please help
« Reply #150 on: September 03, 2009, 09:33:11 »
I did a CT with an OT.  Applied in Apr, after all was said and done, I "switched" Feb of the next year.  Straight CTs are quicker, the PLAR process isn't as complicated IIRC.  Remeber, we are also coming off the summer cycle of leave and APS, so...that probably has an influence from a timeline perspective too.
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Re: PRETC question? please help
« Reply #151 on: September 03, 2009, 12:29:35 »
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just spoke to a couple corporals who remustered to ACS and they both told me it only took them about a week in the shacks before they got a PMQ.

I've also heard it can be hard sometimes if your situation isn't so clear-cut, e.g. common-law marriage and such.

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Re: PRETC question? please help
« Reply #152 on: September 03, 2009, 17:02:51 »
I am married so it shouldn't be a problem. I hope everything goes as planned. And now im just waiting for my letter. It seems like the whole process took way longer than it should. I have friends who went through basic as a new soldier faster than I could CT.

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Going to Kingston PAT
« Reply #153 on: September 27, 2009, 12:16:44 »
Hey Army forums !

I'm in my last two weeks of BMQ and got my posting this week, very happy that I'm going straight to Kingston on PAT and will be doing my trades qual there also as comm research. I just wanted to know what usally happens to us when we get shipped to our new bases. I've heard most of the time they tell us to take 2 weeks off and what not. I know it's prob different for everyone, if I can get some past experiences from BMQ to PAT would be great thanks alot

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Re: Going to Kingston PAT
« Reply #154 on: September 27, 2009, 14:16:08 »
Going on leave will be depending on some variables.

How much leave do you have to use up this fiscal year that won't be used up by block leave
If you are going on a course anytime soon

etc

Wait out an you will see what will happen to you.

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Re: PRETC
« Reply #155 on: October 02, 2009, 19:45:49 »
kingston pat requires 6 annual leave days. if you are coming out of bmq you have 14 to use up.

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Re: PRETC
« Reply #156 on: October 03, 2009, 20:52:20 »
So when I get there they make me take at least 6 days leave. Also how does the christmas block leave work out, it's from the 15th of Dec to 5th of Jan I was told, but how many days are took off leave. :camo:

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Re: PRETC
« Reply #157 on: October 03, 2009, 21:14:47 »
Assuming the standard block leave / holiday allowances are granted, it looks like the 15 Dec thru 5 Jan would break down something like this:

11 Annual days
6 Weekend days
3 Stat days
2 Short/Specials
22 days off for block leave total

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Questions about PRETC
« Reply #158 on: May 14, 2012, 14:47:39 »
Ok, not quite sure where this fits, but this is as good a start as any.

PRETC: What the heck are they up to up there?

I've got the second CT/OT in as many months in front of me. Both are posted to PRETC even though their QL3's are months away (one in Sep, one in Jan). Both have solid offers of OJT in their new trade in their place of primary residence, but they are being refused. Happened last summer as well, 2 offers through my shop and they both ended up on PRETC for ungodly long periods.

Is this PRETC being unreasonable or is it the big giant tentacled thing in Ottawa that is just churning out messages? Both QL3 courses belong to CFSAL if that matters any.

I just do not see the sense in sending someone to Borden, so we can pay them separation pay for X months, so they can sit on PRETC and do nothing as opposed to doing actual trade related OJT. One message indicates a no-cost move while the other does not. Who gets a move for a 2 month QL3? Posting message is to be cut no sooner than 7 days before, so not a lot of time to react. Want to get my battle plans ready now.

Even our RSM is a little ticked at the lack of cooperation we seem to be getting.

Any advice or direction I can point my preemptive bang stick at?

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Re: Questions about PRETC
« Reply #159 on: May 14, 2012, 15:07:51 »
Not sure how it is now, however from what I remember PRETC was over populated and under staffed. Your PL IC barely could remember your name. A friend of mine, was sent to PRETC on his re muster from Halifax and within 2 days of being on ground his request for OJE had been approved as he already had a place to stay there (therefore no burden on the training unit to provide room and board). No idea why your requests are denied, but I wouldn't be surprised if once you were there, you got approved to go back on OJE.

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Re: Questions about PRETC
« Reply #160 on: May 16, 2012, 10:24:16 »
Thanks Hurricane, but I am trying to sort it out before my people have to pack up everything and end up in PRETC unnecessarily.

There are kids and houses involved down here and getting everything riled up because PRETC wants their bodies (but supposedly doesn't want them) 6-8 months before courses starts seems ridiculous to me.

One thing I did notice after rereading the CT/OT messages again, both say that a posting message to PRETC will not be sent no sooner than 7 days before COS date. How the heck gets 7 days notice to move for a course that doesn't start for 6 months?

Anyone else have any insight into PRETC operations?

Thanks.

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Re: Questions about PRETC
« Reply #161 on: May 16, 2012, 15:58:16 »
When I relinquished my commission I was sent to PRETC for 4 months. The only reason I can think of that PRETC possibly needs the member is if there is training required before the QL3 level (SQ, 404's) etc.

When I was there, I spent my time asking for taskings and going to the gym. I didn't learn anything of value and was maximum supervised the entire time. (Sign in/sign out, no POMV for pers admin, even for appointments) and I spent a lot of time sitting around waiting to be told to go home (slider almost every day.) I hope for their sake that they won't get sent there as experienced members often lose their minds there. It's bad enough being treated at a QL3 level again, but to be treated as a recruit again is frustrating.
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Re: Questions about PRETC
« Reply #162 on: May 16, 2012, 17:41:43 »
Hi guys , just a heads up  PRETC  WILL BE  DISMOUNTED as of  March 2013. This is official.

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Re: Questions about PRETC
« Reply #163 on: May 16, 2012, 17:44:36 »
Hi guys , just a heads up  PRETC  WILL BE  DISMOUNTED as of  March 2013. This is official.

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Re: Questions about PRETC
« Reply #164 on: May 16, 2012, 17:45:57 »
  PRETC  WILL BE  DISMOUNTED

I'm pretty sure that "dismounted" is not the word you are looking for.

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Re: Questions about PRETC
« Reply #165 on: May 16, 2012, 18:06:30 »
I'm pretty sure that "dismounted" is not the word you are looking for.

Maybe they won't have any vehicles.   ;)
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Re: Questions about PRETC
« Reply #166 on: May 16, 2012, 18:07:03 »
Maybe they won't have any vehicles.   ;)

Or losing their horses..........

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Re: Questions about PRETC
« Reply #167 on: May 16, 2012, 18:23:24 »
Or losing their horses..........

Or they'll be too busy performing CPR on any ex-black hatters in the PRetC midst who will not believe that dismount is an actual word. Sacrilege.  >:D

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Way back when, before my current Unit, the OJTers had to report in to Borden's PRetC (as they officially become their Admin Unit) - even our married guys. We then created tasks for the OJP in our local areas which PRetC filled with the pers whose families were in our area. Quite simply, it covers the PRetC member's *** should anything occur injury/admin-wise as their "owning Unit" has officially cleared them in and then officially tasked them to location X. It also allows PRetC to effect recall of "their" affected pers should any School's timetables for courses change. As it should be.
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Re: Questions about PRETC
« Reply #168 on: May 16, 2012, 20:50:28 »
OK,  how about  they are closing the PRETC .  I am sure you guys  got what I tried to say just being a smart ***. And that is for sure I was told on O group.

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Re: Questions about PRETC
« Reply #169 on: May 16, 2012, 22:18:36 »
OK,  how about  they are closing the PRETC .  I am sure you guys  got what I tried to say just being a smart ***. And that is for sure I was told on O group.

Half the stuff I have been told in an O-Group has never come to pass.

What do you mean by dismounted? As far as I know, PRETC has never been allowed POMV's.

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Re: Questions about PRETC
« Reply #170 on: September 07, 2012, 21:16:42 »
Half the stuff I have been told in an O-Group has never come to pass.

What do you mean by dismounted? As far as I know, PRETC has never been allowed POMV's.

I always used my POMV... Just never parked it in the PRETC parking lot  ;D
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Re: Questions about PRETC
« Reply #171 on: September 12, 2012, 20:49:11 »
I believe that PRETC was a means of a way to group all the BTL's "Awaiting Training" under one big umbrella as opposed to having each individual school manage them separately, which makes alot of sense.  There is some pre-course training which needs to take place and PRETC manages that on behalf of the training school.

If you have a "valid" case to retain an individual at unit level for employment purposes and or can provide "relevant" OJT in the receptor occupation, as opposed to sending them to PRETC when their QL 3 course is months away, then present it to them.

Keep in mind, that they receive these types of requests regularly and it is the ones that are "hogwash" that result in valid requests being turned down...
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Re: Questions about PRETC
« Reply #172 on: January 19, 2013, 13:48:12 »
Hi guys , just a heads up  PRETC  WILL BE  DISMOUNTED as of  March 2013. This is official.

Anything further on this? I am posted to PRETC in the middle of Feb with my fingers crossed to be crse loaded 2 April. Would love to know.....

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Re: Questions about PRETC
« Reply #173 on: January 19, 2013, 17:33:57 »
When my husband was at Borden, he was told that his intake was the last intake for PRETC. This was back in August 2012.

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Re: Questions about PRETC
« Reply #174 on: January 19, 2013, 21:12:27 »
I thought PRETC ceased to exist and PATs went back to their parents school/TE?
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