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Flash Lights
« on: November 07, 2005, 12:17:37 »
I was wondering What's a good flashlight to use in the infantry, and where can i get it IE) website. Thanks
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Re: Flash Lights
« Reply #1 on: November 07, 2005, 12:48:44 »
Flashlight in the search engine

First hit

http://forums.army.ca/forums/index.php/topic,32537.0.html
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Re: Flash Lights
« Reply #2 on: November 07, 2005, 12:55:44 »
sorry about that i spelled flash lights wrong in the search engine the first time i tired it but thanks for the link
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Re: Flash Lights
« Reply #3 on: November 18, 2005, 07:38:34 »
Get a Surefire. They are design as a combat/tactical light.I like the Centurion model w/ lanyard.   I carry two surefires, 65 lumen 6 volt. Or, One and a dedicated weaponlight.   Two is one, one is none.

Most have not been taught the application of tactical light; both the doctrine and the techniques. They will tell you to buy a cheaper light. Check out some of the links:

http://www.surefire.com/maxexp/main/co_disp/displ/pgrfnbr/33/sesent/00

http://nightoperations.com/index.htm

http://www.streamlight.com/

Remember, a bright tactical light is a non lethal force option. I've heard a few stories and some personal experiences. "Deer in the headlights" type reaction.....

I do carry a single LED keychain type for personal illumination: navigation, finding stuff in my ruck, etc.

Hope that helps. I assumed that application was military in nature, not camping or home use.
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Re: Flash Lights
« Reply #4 on: November 25, 2005, 16:22:04 »
Have you considered pelican? I have been happy with my SabreLite 2020 Recoil LED.  Alway have been happy with the quality of pelican products as my old Super Sabrelite seems to take abuse very well.

http://www.pelicanproducts.ca/pelican_lights_recoil_led.htm


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Re: Flash Lights
« Reply #5 on: November 25, 2005, 16:41:41 »
Sigh...



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Re: Flash Lights
« Reply #6 on: November 25, 2005, 19:16:54 »
Or you could just get one issued when you need it....
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Re: Flash Lights
« Reply #7 on: November 25, 2005, 19:30:53 »
Surefire is issued  ;)

Well at least for deployments.
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Re: Flash Lights
« Reply #8 on: November 25, 2005, 22:01:14 »
Surefire is issued   ;)

Well at least for deployments.

If the queen does not give it to me, I need it not... :D
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Re: Flash Lights
« Reply #9 on: November 25, 2005, 22:25:50 »
If the queen does not give it to me, I need it not... :D

Are you sure about that?

I live by the mantra;

If the queen does not issue it to me - I do not need it.

With the notable exception of;........

Perhaps a world class flashlight that the Army doesn't have in sufficent numbers to make available to every soldier would count as a "notable exception", no?  8)
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Re: Flash Lights
« Reply #10 on: November 25, 2005, 22:47:58 »
Night Ops Gladius >:D

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Re: Flash Lights
« Reply #11 on: November 26, 2005, 11:30:28 »
Are you sure about that?

Perhaps a world class flashlight that the Army doesn't have in sufficent numbers to make available to every soldier would count as a "notable exception", no?   8)

http://www.bestpersonalprotection.com/site/1417669/product/FL-SM

If you are going to spend 100$ on a flashlight, at least ensure that you can make someone $hit themselves with 3 second jolt!!
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Re: Flash Lights
« Reply #12 on: November 26, 2005, 18:35:02 »
The litle black surefire second from the top in Kevs pic. 60 bucks, reliable as heck and the pressure switch cord accessory is only 29 bucks. Good poor mans weapon light although the bezel is not shock mounted so on your weapon, recoil may eventually break your bulb.  Not everyone who needs a light rates one in the Army's eye.
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Re: Flash Lights
« Reply #13 on: November 26, 2005, 21:06:36 »
I'd look silly, but I'd like a cadpat version of our good old flashlight

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Re: Flash Lights
« Reply #14 on: November 26, 2005, 21:14:48 »
Yes, you would look silly  ;D
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Re: Flash Lights
« Reply #15 on: November 26, 2005, 21:16:15 »
Yes, you would look silly   ;D
But it'd match the rest of the kit, cobats, boots, tv...

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Re: Flash Lights
« Reply #16 on: November 27, 2005, 11:58:40 »
Why would you want that bohemoth of a flashlight? It's heavy, awkward to handle with a weapon, doesn't stay attached to you very well, it's heavy, and it's not very bright. It's also heavy. 2 D cell batteries are hardly necessaryfor bright light.

If you absolutely must have something in CADPAT buy a surefire and paint it.
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Re: Flash Lights
« Reply #17 on: November 28, 2005, 10:58:01 »
Just received my Inova X1 (black body, white LED) in the mail. Initial inspection shows a VERY bright light (I blinded myself for a good 3 seconds) that is projected as a perfectly circular spotlight, with no dark spots (i.e. the entire circle is bright). It runs on a single AA, so obtaining replacement batts should be cheap and easy. And it even comes with its own elasticized carry pouch (not exactly mil-spec, but it'll do for camping).

So far I'm very pleased with the quality and construction of the light, and would recommend it as a cheap alternative to some of the more expensive flashlights out there (cost me $30 CDN and some change, shipping and currency conversion included, off of ebay).

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Re: Flash Lights
« Reply #18 on: November 28, 2005, 19:37:14 »
Just received my Inova X1 (black body, white LED) in the mail. Initial inspection shows a VERY bright light (I blinded myself for a good 3 seconds) that is projected as a perfectly circular spotlight, with no dark spots (i.e. the entire circle is bright). It runs on a single AA, so obtaining replacement batts should be cheap and easy. And it even comes with its own elasticized carry pouch (not exactly mil-spec, but it'll do for camping).

So far I'm very pleased with the quality and construction of the light, and would recommend it as a cheap alternative to some of the more expensive flashlights out there (cost me $30 CDN and some change, shipping and currency conversion included, off of ebay).

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Re: Flash Lights
« Reply #19 on: December 01, 2005, 00:39:06 »
I own a few Surfire's, love them...
I have a Inova, not as nice as the surfire...

Just picked up a "Night-ops" / Blackhawk subsidary....
Hummm  I'm liking some of the features, but time will tell...
Very very bright for an LED, 90 lumens +/-
multimode, one of which is a 100:1 ratio turn down +/- 90 down to .8
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Re: Flash Lights
« Reply #20 on: December 01, 2005, 00:50:38 »
+1 on the Surefire G2.

Picked it up at a police supply store in Ottawa for about $50. Only downside is expensive batteries.

One day when I return all my empties I might spring for a Aviator model...
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Re: Flash Lights
« Reply #21 on: December 01, 2005, 15:26:13 »
I just bought a Inova T 3 and it's great, really bright and it looks like it can take a beating, plus it wasn't too expensive
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Re: Flash Lights
« Reply #22 on: December 02, 2005, 20:32:09 »
Night Ops Gladius >:D

I'll second the Gladius.

Just received mine, and first impressions...

-I wouldn't want to feed it under duress. It took a few minutes to line up the "groove" in the body and tailcap. First few times, it wouldn't activate in any mode. You've got to listen for that 'click' to tell when the tail cap is seated correctly. Once in, though, it works as advertised.
-Very bright...better than any Surefire I've seen. (Unless the "I spent *how* much on a flashlight?" bias is kicking in when I'm looking at the beams side by side...)
-Strobe mode actually *is* disorientating for those on the receiving end. Those who've agreed to get strobed in darkness have regretted it. No puking or seizures, but headaches have occurred in about 50% of the 'victims'.
-Easy to use, switch between modes, and has an intuitive interface.
-While you can change the 'admin' mode to go from low to high, high to low, or remember the last light setting (for those not familiar with this light, you can adjust how much light it puts out.), I think I'd prefer another twist on the dial to allow a permanent 'low to high' mode.
-Sturdy...but I'm not putting it through torture tests just quite yet.
-It rattles a bit, and while it's 'normal', it's a little bit irritating.
-I think I'd prefer a larger lanyard hole...and while we're talking about accessories, a better holster than the Blackhawk Gladius Holster.  (Any suggestions?)

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Re: Flash Lights
« Reply #23 on: December 02, 2005, 21:26:14 »
I'm boycotting the Gladius - since Ken was supposed to send me one to be a beta tester and did not...  ^-^

  I've got a shitload of Surefires -- and next time I have a training course I will take a Gladius out for a spin.  BUT I still like my Aviaitor with the white zenon and red led.

 I fixed a Surefire nylon pouch to my PALS attachments on my RAV - fits well - works for the G2 -- IIRC playing with the Gladius it should fit. 
The have belt versions too, all depends upon what you want and where you want to put it.




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Re: Flash Lights
« Reply #24 on: December 04, 2005, 02:59:23 »
Why would you want that bohemoth of a flashlight? It's heavy, awkward to handle with a weapon, doesn't stay attached to you very well, it's heavy, and it's not very bright. It's also heavy. 2 D cell batteries are hardly necessaryfor bright light.

If you absolutely must have something in CADPAT buy a surefire and paint it.

But then he cant attach it to his Cadpat webbing (Not Tac Vest) and have the same effect
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