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Re: Getting Back In/Re-enrolling Mega Thread
« Reply #875 on: June 08, 2016, 14:05:54 »
hey everyone ,

Do any of you actually have any clue on when the next selection date is for :

ACS Tech
AVN Tech
ATIS Tech

Last email I sent to the person in charge of my file , I got told that , no one knows and it might take A LONG TIME ( she did actually use cap letters ).

So I was just wondering what "A LONG TIME" meant.

P.S. Like usual I know it all depends on the interview / CFAT / Medical , but all of those were good to go and I was qualified for all trades. I just want to have an average of if there should be a selection this month , next month or ?

Thanks

P.S2. I looked up on the forum but it looked like old posts from 2005-2006-2007 .... if there is a new one , please just delete this post and link me towards it ! thanks !
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Re: Getting Back In/Re-enrolling Mega Thread
« Reply #876 on: June 08, 2016, 20:53:31 »
So I know medical and the interview expire after a year, and the CFAT doesn't, but what about the background check and the reference check?

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Re: Getting Back In/Re-enrolling Mega Thread
« Reply #877 on: June 08, 2016, 22:43:33 »
So I know medical and the interview expire after a year, and the CFAT doesn't, but what about the background check and the reference check?

They likely will contact you by email to verify your references and all the info; and what changes that you may need to make can be done by replying via that email.    Redoing all the forms should not be necessary.
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Re-enrolement letter
« Reply #878 on: June 19, 2016, 12:59:24 »
Hello,

I am in need of some help. I was at bmq at st Jean in September but due to unforeseen circumstances, I had to VR and return home. I have expressed my interest of re-enrolment as soon as possible and the military career counsellor has informed me that I have to write myself a re-enrolment letter. I am just curious as to what are the requirements and guidelines to writing this letter. Any assistance would be great.

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Re: Re-enrolement letter
« Reply #879 on: June 19, 2016, 13:08:09 »
I have to write myself a re-enrolment letter. I am just curious as to what are the requirements and guidelines to writing this letter.

Re-enrollment letters are discussed in the Getting Back In/Re-enrolling Mega Thread 
http://army.ca/forums/index.php?topic=294.875
"I was just wondering in terms of a re-enrollment letter which Reg-F requires, what should I be writing? How long should it be? And how specific should it be?"
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Re: Getting Back In/Re-enrolling Mega Thread
« Reply #880 on: June 19, 2016, 17:19:38 »
Welcome to Army.ca, drewlt

There is a ton of information already on this Site about almost everything, as mariomike has kindly shown you.

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Re: Getting Back In/Re-enrolling Mega Thread
« Reply #881 on: September 01, 2016, 17:08:04 »
If you VR then re enlist 3 years later do you maintain your pay rate. I left as a Cpl 4 and I'm wonder when I get back in if I'll go back to making the Cpl 4 pay rate or if I'll have to start back at Cpl 1 pay.

Thanks a lot for any help.

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Re: Getting Back In/Re-enrolling Mega Thread
« Reply #882 on: September 07, 2016, 13:11:47 »
If you VR then re enlist 3 years later do you maintain your pay rate. I left as a Cpl 4 and I'm wonder when I get back in if I'll go back to making the Cpl 4 pay rate or if I'll have to start back at Cpl 1 pay.

Thanks a lot for any help.

Usually, the CAF will recognize all prior service time, provided you re-enrol less than 5 years from your date of release.  Less than 3 years out, you usually get everything back (Rank, Pay and Occupation/Non-Occupation/Leadership Quals), 3-5 will be PLAR'd which results in a coin toss and anything more than 5 years post release, will be a hard sell but usually results in "Cpl (B)".
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cpl rank is it just time in
« Reply #883 on: September 24, 2016, 11:40:18 »
So I want to know all requirements to receive cpl rank. I have 4 years in and got out and getting back in. I should get cpl but was told I'm starting g at p3 pay grade until I finish my ql3's which is ok but I will not be getting back paid which does not make since to me is this a mistake because i have timed served. I will end up being in the training system for 1 1/2 to 2 years how can I stay at p3 for 2 years tell me that's wrong. Anyone have excess to the proper paper work in Dwan to clear this up for me thanks

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Re: cpl rank is it just time in
« Reply #884 on: September 24, 2016, 11:42:09 »
got out and getting back in.

Getting Back In/Re-enrolling Mega Thread 
http://army.ca/forums/index.php?topic=294.475
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Re: cpl rank is it just time in
« Reply #885 on: September 24, 2016, 11:55:05 »
Thanks but That tread did not have what I needed.

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Re: cpl rank is it just time in
« Reply #886 on: September 24, 2016, 11:58:17 »
Thanks but That tread did not have what I needed.

You are welcome.

But, why not ask your getting back in questions, in the Getting Back In mega-thread?

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Re: cpl rank is it just time in
« Reply #887 on: September 24, 2016, 12:05:39 »
So I want to know all requirements to receive cpl rank. I have 4 years in and got out and getting back in. I should get cpl but was told I'm starting g at p3 pay grade until I finish my ql3's which is ok but I will not be getting back paid which does not make since to me is this a mistake because i have timed served. I will end up being in the training system for 1 1/2 to 2 years how can I stay at p3 for 2 years tell me that's wrong. Anyone have excess to the proper paper work in Dwan to clear this up for me thanks

Simple you are not qualified in your new trade...each trade has their own requirements to be promoted to Cpl....

For a P.Res Engineer for example you need DP1 complete (so BMQ-C,BMQ-L and trades course this alone could take 2 years or more) and then at a minimum 2 years in the CF....
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Re: cpl rank is it just time in
« Reply #888 on: September 24, 2016, 12:09:48 »
I understand not get cpl right away but once qualified my pay should be back dated. I have friends that got their  cpl rank after their ql3's on same course and they got back pay just trying to find out why I'm being told different

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Re: cpl rank is it just time in
« Reply #889 on: September 24, 2016, 13:01:50 »
I understand not get cpl right away but once qualified my pay should be back dated. I have friends that got their  cpl rank after their ql3's on same course and they got back pay just trying to find out why I'm being told different

Just because your friends did, does not mean that you can.  Your Service Record is not the same as theirs.  Your conditions of re-enrolling are not the same as theirs (if they even re-enrolled).  You have Broken Service.  Do your friends have Broken Service as well?  You have to ask your CoC what the story is, not us.
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Re: cpl rank is it just time in
« Reply #890 on: September 24, 2016, 14:22:25 »
So I want to know all requirements to receive cpl rank. I have 4 years in and got out and getting back in. I should get cpl but was told I'm starting g at p3 pay grade until I finish my ql3's which is ok but I will not be getting back paid which does not make since to me is this a mistake because i have timed served. I will end up being in the training system for 1 1/2 to 2 years how can I stay at p3 for 2 years tell me that's wrong. Anyone have excess to the proper paper work in Dwan to clear this up for me thanks
I posted regarding a friend who is in the same position except he has almost triple your time in and a couple tours overseas.  Only getting Pte(3). You can ask for it to be reviewed.
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Re: cpl rank is it just time in
« Reply #891 on: September 24, 2016, 15:55:36 »
Can't find a copy of cfao 49-4, but is it not 4 years for accelerated, 5 years for mandatory promotion to Cpl? You're not entitled to promotion to Cpl until that 60 month mark. You haven't said what rank and qual you released at, or how long you've been out. All of those things have huge bearing on the advice you can get here.

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Re: cpl rank is it just time in
« Reply #892 on: September 24, 2016, 15:59:34 »
Can't find a copy of cfao 49-4, but is it not 4 years for accelerated, 5 years for mandatory promotion to Cpl? You're not entitled to promotion to Cpl until that 60 month mark. You haven't said what rank and qual you released at, or how long you've been out. All of those things have huge bearing on the advice you can get here.

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Re: cpl rank is it just time in
« Reply #893 on: September 24, 2016, 16:06:29 »
OP's Profile does not offer many clues.
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Re: cpl rank is it just time in
« Reply #894 on: September 24, 2016, 16:10:12 »
IRC, it's 48 months service. For substantive promotions, it's also appropriately trade qualified. Accelerated promotion is 36 months and qualified for the rank (you can't be accelerated to acting rank). In all three cases, you require the CO's concurrence. The foregoing applies to the RegF... the ResF is somewhat different.

As someone with broken service, you can ask your career manager for a review of your "Time Credit for Promotion", or TCP. That being said, the normal process for re-enrollment at the rank of Cpl is that you were substantive prior to your release, and your qualifications meet the current trade requirements.

It appears that you are re-enrolling in a different trade, that being the case, you would not meet the requirements for promotion to Cpl as you are trade qualified. Once you are qualified QL3 or QL4, you might be promotable to A/Cpl, but like I said earlier it requires the CO's approval.
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Re: Getting Back In/Re-enrolling Mega Thread
« Reply #895 on: November 04, 2016, 08:25:17 »
http://www.airforce.forces.gc.ca/en/re-enrollment.page?

If you are looking to return to reg force service, please follow the link.  I'll be the one to reply directly to you for NCM via phone call or email.

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The Air Force Intake & Liaison Team (AFI&LT) is working with Canadian Forces Recruiting Group (CFRG) to get the word out that the Air Force is actively seeking ex-military members of the Canadian Forces who were fully trained in an Air Force occupation.

The AFI&LT, which is based in Ottawa, works to identify and staff initiatives aimed at improving the re-enrolment of Air Force personnel into the Canadian Forces (CF). Due to manning shortages, personnel from many Air Force occupations are being sought.

In an effort to reduce waiting times the AFI&LT is working closely with CFRG and the career managers to expedite re-enrolment.

There are many advantages to re-enrolling fully qualified personnel. The Air Force recognizes the qualities of leadership, maturity, and experience that former personnel bring with them. We have found that these personnel can immediately contribute to aerospace capability. Those returning are an indicator to serving personnel that the CF remains an employer of choice.

Persons interested in receiving more information on this initiative are asked to contact the AFI&LT via email or through one of its toll free numbers.

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Re-enlistment question
« Reply #896 on: December 16, 2016, 21:36:23 »
Hey folks

Simple question:

I heard that members can re-enlist with the army and pick up where they left off in their training as opposed to dropping back to week one if they re-enlist. I was 2 weekends away from finishing my BMQ-L but had to release in July of 2015. It is 16 December 2016 and I was wondering if anyone knows if that's too much time to have passed (1 yr 5 mo's) for me to be able to re-enlist and pick up where I left off, or if I'd have to go back to week 1 and start everything over.

Thought I'd ask because a family member of mine told me (back in Sept of last year) that just because I'm no longer in the military, it doesn't mean the time I was a member just disappears off into the ether.

Anyway, yeah I figure that'd be too long but then again I honestly have no idea what the military considers a reasonable amount of time to have passed.

Thanks and have a great weekend.

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Re: Re-enlistment question
« Reply #897 on: December 16, 2016, 21:44:12 »
Your time in may not change, but to my knowledge unless you finish a qual, you'll have to begin at the start. IE: Had you finished BMQ-L then you'll still have kept the qual.
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Re: Re-enlistment question
« Reply #898 on: December 16, 2016, 23:51:22 »
Hey folks

Simple question:

I heard that members can re-enlist with the army and pick up where they left off in their training as opposed to dropping back to week one if they re-enlist. I was 2 weekends away from finishing my BMQ-L but had to release in July of 2015. It is 16 December 2016 and I was wondering if anyone knows if that's too much time to have passed (1 yr 5 mo's) for me to be able to re-enlist and pick up where I left off, or if I'd have to go back to week 1 and start everything over.

Thought I'd ask because a family member of mine told me (back in Sept of last year) that just because I'm no longer in the military, it doesn't mean the time I was a member just disappears off into the ether.

Anyway, yeah I figure that'd be too long but then again I honestly have no idea what the military considers a reasonable amount of time to have passed.

Thanks and have a great weekend.

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Questions about re-enlisting after being out for a year and two months
« Reply #899 on: February 06, 2017, 19:35:28 »
Hello folks:

I have considered re-enlisting as an EDT after being out for a year and two months. For my previous service, I completed a VIE (6 YR) contract and released in November 2015. When I released, I was a junior-level Naval Weapons Engineering Technician (QL4 - completed DP1 OJT) in my trade, and was also a qualified MCC/DCC watch keeper.

Before I pay a visit to the recruiting office, I would appreciate some feedback on a few things:

1.   Are there any other trades besides EDT that will allow me to earn hours toward a Red Seal Electrician ticket in case I can't get into the EDT trade? I am open to other trades as well as long as I can earn hours toward a civilian ticket of some kind. Below are some other military trades that caught my eye. Are there any civilian trade tickets or certifications that I could earn by doing one of these trades?

a.   Refrigeration and Mechanical Systems Technician
b.   Plumbing and Heating Technician
c.   Aerospace Telecommunication and Information Systems Technician
d.   Electrical Generating Systems Technician
e.   Avionics Systems Technician

2.   I realize that EDT is a purple construction engineering trade and that I would be a soldier first and tradesman second. What alternate duties do EDT and construction engineering trades typically do?

3.   Will I need to do BMQ over again?

4.   A family member of mine is currently an AVS. He was telling me that if I enlisted as an AVS, I could earn the Transport Canada AME certification if I really applied myself. He also indicated that an AVS journeyman could transfer into other trades after spending a significant amount of time as a journeyman (ie Non-Destructive Testing). Are there any other specialties that an AVS could transfer into down the road?

Thanks!