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Re: Stoker Spec Pay Freeze.
« Reply #475 on: July 14, 2014, 15:25:46 »
Just to add a little, you won't qualify for spec pay until you are a Leading Seaman, with is normally around 4 years of service from your enrolment date, as well as having the required qual (normally QL5).

http://www.forces.gc.ca/en/caf-community-pay/specialist-pay-reg-force-ncm-mosids.page
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Re: Stoker Spec Pay Freeze.
« Reply #476 on: July 14, 2014, 18:07:27 »
Hello,
any news about the spec pay, I'm starting my BMQ in august and trying to do my personal budget (loosing 70k) joining the navy as stolker.

any advise can be good before my swearing on the 29'th of july.

thanks

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Re: Stoker Spec Pay Freeze.
« Reply #477 on: September 08, 2014, 01:43:04 »
Can't figure out how to 'insert' ppt slides but this was from a presentation given by the MAR ENG/ET Occ Mgr to the coasts in January. (Note: It is UNCLAS)

Slide 1:
Spec 1 & 2 Pay Review:
Triggered with stand-up of any new occupation
New MARENG occ effective Feb 12 with approval of MESIP:
No pay review since 1975
Disconnect between extant Occ Spec and CBI Spec Pay
Occ Spec – Spec 1 after QL5 & Cert 2
CBI – Spec 1 after QL5

Possible outcomes (know by) of the Spec pay review are:
Yes Spec 1 upon completion of QL5 (Jun 2012) and Yes Spec 2 upon completion of QL6 (Nov/Dec 2012);
Yes Spec 1 upon completion of QL5 (Jun 2012) but No Spec 2 (Nov/Dec 2012);
No Spec 1 upon completion of QL5 (Jun 2012) but Yes Spec 1 upon completion of QL6 (Nov/Dec 2012);
No Spec 1 upon completion of QL5 (Jun 2012) but Yes Spec 2 upon completion of QL6 (Nov/Dec 2012); or
No Spec pay (Nov/Dec 2012).

Slide 2:
So what - using the noted pay review approach means:
If no Spec pay is awarded, post pay review, then there will be no requirement to clawback any pay from any sailor; or
If Spec pay is awarded, any commencement of Spec pay and back-pay to our sailors, who may have qualified for Spec pay during the pay review, should occur within 2 mths (WRT Spec pay start) and within 4 mths (WRT Spec pay back-pay) respectively.

Response - we will have clarity WRT the MARENG Spec 1 & 2 pay review/outcome(s) before end 2012
Less than 11 mths from the MESIP implementation
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From me:

Keep in mind, he has covered ALL potential scenarios. I am not a fortune teller but the feeling is that there will be little change when this is done. Again, I am NOT a fortune teller.
For those of you getting your Cert 2/3 (I know you're out there-I've seen the messages) or those getting promoted PO1 - CPO2 (because of the move from PO1 Spec 2 direct to 3rd Incent CPO2) during the review, note the 3rd line of slide 2.

If you have any specific questions, talk to your supervisors or even ask to talk to the CM/Occ Mgr. Barring that, PM me. If you PM me, know that my first question to you will be "Have you checked with your divisional system?"

Pat

Pat, you seem to be a good 'go to' on this subject, but I have noticed that the information has taken a bit of a stand still since your last post from 2012. Now as we enter the last quarter of 2014, has there been any new news on the subject?  Is there anything official that at least lets the community know what the hold up on this is?  I can't say that I mind not having Spec Pay (or knowing if I even still qualify for it).  I am QL5 as of 2013, and I know my next step is completion of my Cert 2.  The part that gets me is that we are left in the dark - this site has been the most informative of all, and it's not even deemed 'official' information.  The only answer I get from my COC is 'when we know more, you will know more', and I have to trust that this is true.  I just think that there are so many decisions being made by our fellow stokers to either leave the trade, or leave the forces all together, and some of the reasons are that they just don't have any answers or feel that we're never going to get an answer.

I want to thank you Pat, and anyone else here that has some direct connection to our trade for posting, but the trade needs something official to be posted on our Forces.Ca site, or an email to all MSE-Eng to let us know that this is either coming to a close soon, or at the very least what is going on.  I think that someone owes the trade at least that, this has been in the dark for us for the last few years with no end in site.

Thank you for your time,

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Re: Stoker Spec Pay Freeze.
« Reply #478 on: September 08, 2014, 05:55:10 »
It is a damn shame this STILL hasn't been sorted out yet and I hate still having to give the answer "when I know more, you will know more" to those stokers I are divisionally responsible for.


Just like the HEA issue that took Treasury Board years to sort out, this won't move any faster unfortunately as it still goes by these clowns for approval.

Edit: P.S. note removed...
« Last Edit: September 08, 2014, 22:12:57 by donaldk »

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Re: Stoker Spec Pay Freeze.
« Reply #479 on: September 08, 2014, 14:54:54 »

Response - we will have clarity WRT the MARENG Spec 1 & 2 pay review/outcome(s) before end 2012
Less than 11 mths from the MESIP implementation

Pat

BUMPP...

Well, I'm the guy who started this thread 2 + years ago...and it's been too long...Still putting up with: "when we know more we'll tell you".

Now my 5's course is in the near future.  Still in the back of my mind, I'm thinking why the hell am I sticking around here when 75% of my peers are disgusted with the Navy.

Do I vot to a spec trade in the air element where I'm sure from all the people I've spoke to that quality of life is much much better... Or do I hang around another two years to become one of those disappointed QL5 graduates who aren't making the money that they deserve?  I picked this trade because of the spec 1 & 2 potentials.

And how long ago was it that I heard this review was almost complete?  And now the news on the block is that it was sent back to Ottawa again to sit on someone's desk for another few years?  What gives?

Pat in Halifax?  Chief Stoker?  NavyShooter?  What do you guys have to say for people in my position today?  And I think telling these young guys not to worry about it because they are still 4 years away from being eligible for spec pay is off the table, when it seems like the ball has bounced back and forth for almost 3 years now.

Anything?
« Last Edit: September 08, 2014, 16:49:28 by westcoastsailor »
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Re: Stoker Spec Pay Freeze.
« Reply #480 on: September 08, 2014, 20:32:22 »
I am afraid that I cannot offer anything more and am responding because I feel anyone who asks a question on this deserves some sort of response. I have been 'chewed out' by a certain SA CPO1 here recently for 'daring' to encourage someone to ask the question during a Fireside chat. The most recent 'promise'; come and gone was 1 Sep. I can only say that we (meaning the senior leadership of the trade) have asked for someone in a senior position in this process to make an announcement even if there is nothing to announce to no avail. I have heard ALL the rumours you have and all I can say is that they are RUMOUR. Though you may feel that you have heard more on Navy.ca than anywhere else, really, nothing has been revealed at all and I shamefully admit that the lack of information from the leadership of the Navy on this is unacceptable.
Once more please; If you do not hear it from the Occ Mgr (who is now settled in and is a good guy...even if he is an ETech!!), assume it to be a rumour ESPECIALLY if you read it here!
If I do get word of an outcome-I will NOT be posting it here but will be relaying it through Chiefs to Ships, School etc.

I wish there were more I could say...
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Spec Pay for Mar Eng
« Reply #481 on: September 20, 2014, 07:39:33 »
This goes out to any recruiters who have recently enrolled or had to answer questions for any potential Marine Engineers.
Do you still mention Spec 1 pay is received after QL5, and Spec 2 is after CERT 3 qualification?
The reason I ask is that since the pay freeze, sorry, the MOS review that stared almost three years ago there is no new Spec pay.
For instance a  LS completes QL5 and CERT 2 qual. They won't get spec pay until after this review is complete. Whenever that might be.
In the beginning of the review it was not an issue as it was thought the review would be complete before any recruits would be eligible for Spec pay. But now some that have joined shortly before the review started will soon be eligible for spec pay yet won't receive it, and when choosing the trade many choose it for the spec pay.
I know of only one senior Mar Eng that pushing for a resolution to this issue.
Just curious if the recruiters were aware they may be hiring using information that isn't entirely accurate?
Thanks.

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Re: Spec Pay for Mar Eng
« Reply #482 on: November 07, 2014, 21:41:47 »
I'll just throw this out there...  The recruiters that I spoke with filled my head with more misinformation than correct information.  And I concluded to myself that these people aren't posted to a recruiting center because they are good at what they do.  Sure, that's not going to be the rule for everyone.  But my experience with the recruiting center was horrible.

I would assume unless you are speaking with a stoker at a recruiting center, they have no idea about the freeze.
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Re: Spec Pay for Mar Eng
« Reply #483 on: November 08, 2014, 06:44:14 »
Misinformation indeed. CRCN made a statement about this already and indeed Spec Pay WILL return to status quo before the end of the fiscal year so if CFRG are saying it's there, they are not wrong.

I am a little disturbed about your comment re disinformation though. If you want to PM me and give me specifics (place, name, info), I PROMISE I will look into it.

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Re: Spec Pay for Mar Eng
« Reply #484 on: December 01, 2014, 19:36:04 »
I am a little disturbed about your comment re "Spec Pay WILL return to status quo before the end of the fiscal year.". 

My unit has not made us aware of this information...and most of the LS techs in my unit who should be receiving this entitlement are only growing more furious (than they were 2 years ago) at the navy and their lack of accountability towards this subject.  We had to get this answer from the ombudsman which in my opinion should be an embarrassment to the brass.

We junior ranks feel we have no support from the leadership in this Nay.

I can't comment on all the recruiting centers across the country.  But I will call a few random recruiting centers tomorrow and inquire.  My guess is that they will have no idea about this spec pay freeze and are advertising whatever 5 year old information they have available to them at their center.

I remember when I joined the military (early 2012) I could find on the internet that the Mar Eng trade was eligible for Spec 2.  This was 99% of the reason I joined this trade.  After a quick search today, I can't find anything on the subject of Specialist Pay rates for Mar Eng.

Looks like I'll be wearing blue soon... I have to say this outfit is the most unorganized I've worked for in my life.  The way this freeze has gone on...and the lack of information being passed around the troops is unforgivable.
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Re: Spec Pay for Mar Eng
« Reply #485 on: December 01, 2014, 19:50:51 »
LCIS, Sorry ACISS-CST has been pay frozen for almost 3 years now. Its not just the Navy that's failing its troops in this regard, WCS.

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Re: Spec Pay for Mar Eng
« Reply #486 on: December 02, 2014, 05:04:41 »
I am a little disturbed about your comment re "Spec Pay WILL return to status quo before the end of the fiscal year.". 

My unit has not made us aware of this information...and most of the LS techs in my unit who should be receiving this entitlement are only growing more furious (than they were 2 years ago) at the navy and their lack of accountability towards this subject.  We had to get this answer from the ombudsman which in my opinion should be an embarrassment to the brass.

We junior ranks feel we have no support from the leadership in this Nay.

I can't comment on all the recruiting centers across the country.  But I will call a few random recruiting centers tomorrow and inquire.  My guess is that they will have no idea about this spec pay freeze and are advertising whatever 5 year old information they have available to them at their center.

I remember when I joined the military (early 2012) I could find on the internet that the Mar Eng trade was eligible for Spec 2.  This was 99% of the reason I joined this trade.  After a quick search today, I can't find anything on the subject of Specialist Pay rates for Mar Eng.

Looks like I'll be wearing blue soon... I have to say this outfit is the most unorganized I've worked for in my life.  The way this freeze has gone on...and the lack of information being passed around the troops is unforgivable.
I don't know what to say other than I am sorry that you did not hear this information through your CoC as it was circulated (including to the west coast and Ottawa area stokers) within a week of being announced by CRCN. I can tell you that the RCN CPO was queried as recently as last week and there was no update. Please know that this is NOT the Navy's doing and CRCN as well as the CF CWO have been actively a part of this resolution process for quite some time; your leadership is NOT failing you though there is obviously a failure in this process. I can only hope and pray that the Pay review does not take this long following amalgamation with the ETechs.
If you would PM me some of your details, I will find out why you are not getting updated...promise.

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Re: Spec Pay for Mar Eng
« Reply #487 on: December 04, 2014, 01:01:06 »
Hello Pat,
were did you get that info, we saw the carreer manager ealier this and did'nt have any answer about our spec pay if your right, that would be the best news of the year.
let me know were I can find the info.

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Re: Spec Pay for Mar Eng
« Reply #488 on: December 04, 2014, 02:56:23 »
Hello Pat,
were did you get that info, we saw the carreer manager ealier this and did'nt have any answer about our spec pay if your right, that would be the best news of the year.
let me know were I can find the info.

Best regard,
You wont 'find' it anywhere although I find it odd (again) that this was not passed on by the CMs. I will look into this when I get into work today. Keep in mind, this came from the Occ Mgr in an email in early October and I have been saying all along that he is the 'authority' on this.
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Re: Spec Pay for Mar Eng
« Reply #489 on: February 04, 2015, 04:46:31 »
CRCN announced in Esquimalt yesterday that Spec Pay for Mar Eng will return to pre 1 Feb 12 levels effective immediately. He went further to state that most should see it on their end Feb pay. For further info, I would ask that you wait for the info to come down through the chain which should be over the course of today. I do not have anything more but would ask that you NOT start nagging your Pay Offices.

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Re: Spec Pay for Mar Eng
« Reply #490 on: February 05, 2015, 13:29:46 »
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AVS Tech training and spec pay.
« Reply #491 on: February 07, 2015, 00:50:07 »
First if you are viewing this thread to learn info, I can tell you two things. No you do not get fast-tracked to Cpl and No you don't get spec pay after training. Unfortunately, the recruiting centers seem to forget the Military ethos part about integrity when they are just blinding guaranteeing you these things that are completely false.

My question is what is the QL4/pre-QL5 training? How long does it take? Can you do it all at you first posting or do you have to go to other wings for training?

Is spec pay given right after QL4/pre-QL5 training?

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Re: AVS Tech training and spec pay.
« Reply #492 on: February 07, 2015, 07:49:54 »
Spec pay starts when you are a Cpl with your QL5 complete.
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Re: CAF Specialist Pay [Spec Pay]- All Trades [MERGED]
« Reply #493 on: March 26, 2016, 09:18:20 »
This was posted today in another thread. Adding it here as an update,

Specialist Pay - For Regular Force NCM MOSIDs
Date modified: 2015-06-09
http://www.forces.gc.ca/en/caf-community-pay/specialist-pay-reg-force-ncm-mosids.page

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ACISS Occupation - Spec Pay (former LCIS Techs)
« Reply #494 on: January 10, 2017, 12:06:22 »
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REQUEST TO RESCIND PROVISIONAL PAY GROUP ASSIGNMENT
ARMY COMMUNICATIONS AND INFORMATION SYSTEMS SPECIALIST (ACISS)
References: A. QR&O 2.10
B. CDS Order dated 25 January 2012
C. 7200-1 (DRCCS) 16 February 2016
1. Your request under ref C where you sought my support to petition the CDS to
rescind his order in ref B that provisionally assigned the ACISS occupation to the
Standard pay group has been reviewed. Although a significant amount of time has
transpired since the decision was made, it is clear to me that there are compelling
circumstances that warranted a re-assessment of the situation.
2. The Canadian Armed Forces assigns NCM occupations and sub-occupations to
the Standard, Specialist 1 or Specialist 2 pay groups using the Canadian Forces Trade
Evaluation Plan (CFTEP). The CFTEP is a point factor job evaluation system that has
been used since 1973. On 4 December 2014, the CDS, in recognition of the
· requirement to modernize the CFTEP, directed the suspension of all current and future
evaluations pending implementation of a modernized methodology. On 23 February
2015, CMP issued an associated direction the product of which will be launched as the
Canadian Forces Job Evaluation System (CFJES) in early 2017.
3. Since 2011, following the approval of the respective Military Employment
Structure Implementation Plans (MESIP), newly created occupations and existing
occupations undergoing structural or qualification standard changes have been
assigned provisionally to the Standard pay group until a formal evaluation can be
conducted using the CFTEP methodology normally within twelve months. Where
applicable, pay protection pursuant to CBI 204.03 is accorded members who are at a
higher pay group when the lower provisional pay group is assigned. Pursuant to QR&O
2.10, the CDS approves all provisional and final pay group assignments. He exercises
this authority through a CDS Order that is effective on the date of signature. On 9
February 2014, my predecessor amended this approach by having the effective date of
each evaluation correspond to the date on which the CDS Order is signed. He further
directed that in cases where members of an occupation/sub-occupation have a current
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pay group assignment that the pay group would be maintained until such time as the
results of the evaluation have been considered and approved by the CDS.
4. As you know, on 1 October 2011, a MESIP was approved that combined three
existing stand-alone legacy occupations into a newly developed ACISS occupation.
Members were formally transferred to the new occupation on that date. Only one of the
previous sub-occupations (LCIS Tech) was in the Specialist 1 pay group. At that time,
DPPD and DPGR assessed that the ACISS occupation was a new occupation and
accordingly recommended provisional assignment to the Standard pay group. The CDS
concurred and approved the assignment on 25 January 2012. Pay protection pursuant
to QR&O 2.1 O was accorded members as applicable.
5. DPPD was advised by the ACISS OA during the formal evaluation process that
the required documentation was incomplete and in addition that the ACISS structure
was not necessarily functional. As a result, the OA was provided with an additional 4-5
months to furnish additional and/or revised documentation. DPPD received the
documents in December 2014. As a result of the CDS direction on 4 December 2014 to
suspend current and future evaluations, any further action on the ACISS evaluation was
suspended pending implementation of the CF JES.
6. Your letter under ref Chas provided valuable insight as to the adverse effect the
provisional pay group assignment and the ongoing delay in finalizing the CFJES is
having on ACISS soldiers from the former LCIS Tech sub-occupation. As I have stated,
at the time of the assignment of the provisional pay group, the ACISS occupation was
deemed a new occupation which pursuant to procedure required that the occupation be
provisionally assigned to the Standard pay group. DPPD has had an opportunity to
revisit the 2012 decision. He has concluded that the ACISS occupation should not have
been identified as a "new" occupation in the context of provisional pay group
assignment; and, as a direct consequence, pay group assignments should have been
maintained. He further assesses that the unavoidable delay in completing the
modernization of the evaluation methodology is a complicating factor. It is reasonable,
therefore, to conclude that the ACISS provisional assignment to the Standard pay group
should not have been recommended. Accordingly, QLSA qualified members of the
LCIS Tech sub-occupation should have retained their Specialist 1 pay group pending
CDS approval of a formal evaluation. On receipt of this letter, DPPD will initiate steps to
rescind the 2012 CDS Order which, if approved, will re-instate QLSA qualified members
of the previous LCIS Tech to the Specialist 1 pay group.
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ALLOCATION OF MILITARY OCCUPATION TO TRADE GROUP – ACISS

Reference: A 7200-1 (DRCCS) 16 February 2016
B. CDS Order 050/16 (Notal)
C. 5555-00362 (DPPD 4) 5 November 2016

1.   In answer to your request, reference A, at reference B, a new CDS Order was issued allowing the ACISS sub-occupation, LCIS, previous Trade Group Allocation to be rescinded, allocating the LCIS sub-occupation back to its original Spec 1 Pay allocation.

2.   In reference C, DMPAP was task to initiate a pay system adjustment for former and present LCIS personnel to reflect the CDS Order.  The pay adjustments are projected to be complete by the last pay period of January 2017.

3.   Once the new pay evaluation guide is approved for use, a formal pay evaluation will conducted upon the entire occupation.

4.    For further information or question, please contact Maj Jean Godin, DPPD 4, at 613-996-8360.





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Re: CAF Specialist Pay [Spec Pay]- All Trades [MERGED]
« Reply #495 on: January 10, 2017, 12:10:53 »
For reference,

ACISS Occupation - Spec Pay (former LCIS Techs)
http://milnet.ca/forums/index.php/topic,124963.msg1471696/topicseen.html#new

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Trade Group Specialist ?
« Reply #496 on: July 23, 2017, 23:27:25 »
Hello,

I was just wondering what exactly is a Trade Group Specialist 1 and 2 ? and how you become a Specialist - I see these options in the pay scale starting at Corporal , I am assuming you become a Specialist after completing courses? or am I totally wrong

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Re: Trade Group Specialist ?
« Reply #497 on: July 24, 2017, 07:50:39 »
Hello,

I was just wondering what exactly is a Trade Group Specialist 1 and 2 ? and how you become a Specialist - I see these options in the pay scale starting at Corporal , I am assuming you become a Specialist after completing courses? or am I totally wrong

Thank you

Some trades qualify for Specialist pay, there are two levels of Spec Pay(some trades are level 1, others are level 2). Infantry does not get Spec Pay.

These are the trades that get Spec Pay
http://www.forces.gc.ca/en/caf-community-pay/specialist-pay-reg-force-ncm-mosids.page
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Re: Trade Group Specialist ?
« Reply #498 on: July 24, 2017, 10:34:39 »
Some trades qualify for Specialist pay, there are two levels of Spec Pay(pay dependant). Infantry does not get Spec Pay.

These are the trades that get Spec Pay
http://www.forces.gc.ca/en/caf-community-pay/specialist-pay-reg-force-ncm-mosids.page

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Re: CAF Specialist Pay [Spec Pay]- All Trades [MERGED]
« Reply #499 on: August 23, 2017, 16:00:41 »
Any one who OT'd into a spec trade after 2004 should probably speak to their orderly room. IAW the CBI, all time served plus the time spent in the jnr. Sub OCC was supposed to be counter to calculation of IPC I  the specialist pay category. They have been only using the time in the jnr sub OCC to calculate it. A number of grievances have resulted in D Mil Pay going back to correct the error. We received an email about it on Monday. There are like 1400 pers across the forces affected, so if you may be one of them make sure you are on the list.

Edit: I will try to post the message when I get into work tonight.
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