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Re: General CFRC Questions – Primary Reserve
« Reply #575 on: October 30, 2018, 13:46:35 »
Hello,

I've recently submitted my online application and received a confirmation email. Waiting to hear from from the recruiter(s) to procees further (I've left a phone message).
 
The application wasn't quite as comprehensive as I had anticipated. Didn't give me a chance to truly "sell" my qualifications. If that sounds weird, please know that the last application I wrote was for my Master's program, and it took days to complete. I guess the Canadian Forces prefer to do most of the evaluation later on in the process.

One of the things I could not include in my application was the fact that I have delved into the world of adventure sports. I've done, recreationally only (not certified), things like skydiving, scuba diving, ice-climbing, back-country camping, portaging, bungee jumping, glacier trekking, cliff-climbing, etc. (can't remember everything at the moment). In this regard, I have the following questions:

1. Do these things even matter to the Canadian Forces?
2. If so, when and how do I add them on my file?
3. Obviously, I would like to pursue para or dive courses if and when I make it into the Forces, and meet all the difficult requirements. Do they care if a candidate has already done some of these things?

Here's some background info, if relevant:

Trades selected: Engineer Officer, Pilot (long shot, I know)
Applying for Primary Reserves as DEO

Thanks

PS: Per the rules, I did my due diligence and searched the forums for info, and didn't find anything. Please don't whack me over the head for it.

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Re: General CFRC Questions – Primary Reserve
« Reply #576 on: October 30, 2018, 16:18:08 »
Hello,

I've recently submitted my online application and received a confirmation email. Waiting to hear from from the recruiter(s) to procees further (I've left a phone message).
 
The application wasn't quite as comprehensive as I had anticipated. Didn't give me a chance to truly "sell" my qualifications. If that sounds weird, please know that the last application I wrote was for my Master's program, and it took days to complete. I guess the Canadian Forces prefer to do most of the evaluation later on in the process.

One of the things I could not include in my application was the fact that I have delved into the world of adventure sports. I've done, recreationally only (not certified), things like skydiving, scuba diving, ice-climbing, back-country camping, portaging, bungee jumping, glacier trekking, cliff-climbing, etc. (can't remember everything at the moment). In this regard, I have the following questions:

1. Do these things even matter to the Canadian Forces?
2. If so, when and how do I add them on my file?
3. Obviously, I would like to pursue para or dive courses if and when I make it into the Forces, and meet all the difficult requirements. Do they care if a candidate has already done some of these things?

Here's some background info, if relevant:

Trades selected: Engineer Officer, Pilot (long shot, I know)
Applying for Primary Reserves as DEO

Thanks

PS: Per the rules, I did my due diligence and searched the forums for info, and didn't find anything. Please don't whack me over the head for it.

Parachuting is absolutely achievable depending on how terrible a pilot you end up being.
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Re: General CFRC Questions – Primary Reserve
« Reply #577 on: October 30, 2018, 16:24:00 »
Parachuting is absolutely achievable depending on how terrible a pilot you end up being.
Or how old your aircraft is.

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Re: General CFRC Questions – Primary Reserve
« Reply #578 on: November 04, 2018, 18:16:53 »
I was watching a documentary on YouTube in which they interviewed a few paratroopers, and they said the most difficult part of becoming a paratrooper is the mental aspect.

I assume that means getting over the fear of jumping out of a plane with 50lbs of gear. Would it be reasonable then to say that, when applying for the basic para course, somebody who has already jumped out of a place (civilian skydiving) would have an advantage over those who haven't yet done something like that?

Or is that wishful thinking on this newbies part?

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Re: General CFRC Questions – Primary Reserve
« Reply #579 on: November 04, 2018, 18:47:30 »
Lol 50 lbs... that's just a bareass jump.

Unless you have your civilian skydiving license, it means very little. Most units pick bpara spots based on PT test scores and your PDRs.

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Re: General CFRC Questions – Primary Reserve
« Reply #580 on: November 04, 2018, 19:23:35 »
Would it be reasonable then to say that, when applying for the basic para course, somebody who has already jumped out of a place (civilian skydiving) would have an advantage over those who haven't yet done something like that?

I jumped out of a window once.  :)

From 2007 ( perhaps out of date )

skydiving
https://army.ca/forums/index.php/topic,66526.0.html
2 pages.

Has anyone ever been able to go from the civilian licensing to being able to take the military jump course?

Civ licensing has no bearing on selection or loading for Basic Para.

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Re: General CFRC Questions – Primary Reserve
« Reply #581 on: November 04, 2018, 22:07:16 »
Your hobbies will have no bearing on whether or not you get Gucci courses unrelated to your trade, and bungee jumping certainly isn't a skill recruiters are looking potential recruits to have.

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Re: General CFRC Questions – Primary Reserve
« Reply #582 on: November 04, 2018, 22:14:05 »
"Place" was a typo. I meant "Plane".

And thank you all for the information. It seems much of the selection process is based on physical fitness and luck. Luck being the better part.

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Re: General CFRC Questions – Primary Reserve
« Reply #583 on: November 04, 2018, 22:47:05 »
Not at all. Life experience counts, but it should be applicable to leadership and the job you're applying for.

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Re: General CFRC Questions – Primary Reserve
« Reply #584 on: November 05, 2018, 00:53:35 »
I was watching a documentary on YouTube in which they interviewed a few paratroopers, and they said the most difficult part of becoming a paratrooper is the mental aspect.

They're wrong... it's the physical part. Lots of running, pushups etc. ad nause.

Very few people ever 'refuse' to jump in a military context. The Army will train you so much that even parachuting becomes boring :)

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Re: General CFRC Questions – Primary Reserve
« Reply #585 on: November 19, 2018, 22:26:30 »
If some sort of event or emergency came up while away on course like DP1 in the summer, how quickly could you return home to deal with it? Would you have to wait for some paperwork to be cleared before being allowed?
If you were only gone for 2-3 days would you be able to return or would you automatically be re-coursed?

I'm sure there's lots of variables but any insight is appreciated!

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Re: General CFRC Questions – Primary Reserve
« Reply #586 on: November 19, 2018, 22:42:15 »
Depends on how far you're traveling. If it's a very time sensitive emergency for immediate family you could be on the next available flight or driving home within a few hours.

Most courses don't have a lot of extra time built in so it really depends on what classes or tests you're going to miss.

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Re: General CFRC Questions – Primary Reserve
« Reply #587 on: December 17, 2018, 13:08:35 »
Hello,

I have a son that will reach 16 in 6 months time. He has been wanting to join the Reserve while continuing high school. He has his sight on two purple trades. Now, as of now those trades are offered by two different Reserve units in our city, one Navy and one Army. My question is, is there any difference in requirements and qualifications between different units in different elements for the same trades? Speaking with recruiters from both units separately, they both did not want to comment on the other one, understandably.

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Re: General CFRC Questions – Primary Reserve
« Reply #588 on: December 17, 2018, 13:38:54 »
Hello,

I have a son that will reach 16 in 6 months time. He has been wanting to join the Reserve while continuing high school. He has his sight on two purple trades. Now, as of now those trades are offered by two different Reserve units in our city, one Navy and one Army. My question is, is there any difference in requirements and qualifications between different units in different elements for the same trades? Speaking with recruiters from both units separately, they both did not want to comment on the other one, understandably.

You were speaking with Unit Recruiters, who's sole role is to recruit for that reserve unit only. They do not have training or access to National CFRC answers.

Recruiting standards are set nationally by CFRG for all Regular and Reserve recruiting. Generally, there should be almost no difference in recruiting between the two units.

After the person has been sworn in,  differences between the army and navy will rapidly become obvious.
(example: When / how training is offered, uniforms, extra opportunities ect…)
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Re: General CFRC Questions – Primary Reserve
« Reply #589 on: December 20, 2018, 00:17:42 »
Hello,

I've just completed my online application for joining the reserves. I've also reached to a few of the reserve units I'm interested in joining. I haven't heard back from the units or the recruiting office that is processing my application (only been a few days).

My question is, do reserve units and recruiting offices take time off for the holidays? i.e should I not expect to hear back from either the reserve units I'm interested in, or the recruiting office, until the new year?

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Re: General CFRC Questions – Primary Reserve
« Reply #590 on: December 20, 2018, 00:20:27 »
Hello,

I've just completed my online application for joining the reserves. I've also reached to a few of the reserve units I'm interested in joining. I haven't heard back from the units or the recruiting office that is processing my application (only been a few days).

My question is, do reserve units and recruiting offices take time off for the holidays? i.e should I not expect to hear back from either the reserve units I'm interested in, or the recruiting office, until the new year?

Thanks.

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Re: General CFRC Questions – Primary Reserve
« Reply #591 on: December 20, 2018, 09:07:00 »
Hello,

I've just completed my online application for joining the reserves. I've also reached to a few of the reserve units I'm interested in joining. I haven't heard back from the units or the recruiting office that is processing my application (only been a few days).

My question is, do reserve units and recruiting offices take time off for the holidays? i.e should I not expect to hear back from either the reserve units I'm interested in, or the recruiting office, until the new year?

Thanks.

Yes they take holidays.
Units started minimum staffing on 15-Dec; all CFRC's & CFRC shut down as we 22-Dec.  Reopening on 7-Jan and back to full strength on 14-Jan.

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Re: General CFRC Questions – Primary Reserve
« Reply #592 on: January 15, 2019, 14:47:30 »
Hello...

It has been a while since I was last active here at army.ca, but on Thursday I have my med review and interview for my local Reserve regiment. I passed the CFAT years ago (glad the CF doesn't purge their digital files!), and in December I passed my FORCE test.. not too bad for a 45 y/o 'old man'.

My question is for current reserve force members and before I get chastised for asking a repeat question, I HAVE searched through the boards but haven't found a clear answer... so that's why I am asking. :)

My question is about pay. On the CF website, it lists daily reserve force pay for a Pte is $96.06, but elsewhere I have seen that for training nights you get half that amount. Can someone who is/was in the reserves clear up the pay structure for me? You get paid for parade nights... and one weekend/month training. In your first year of service when you are an FNG, how long is the summer training... and do you get paid the entire time?

I'm pursuing this to achieve a lifelong dream, it's not about the money.. but since I have to take unpaid leave from work to serve I want to get some clarity on how/when reservists are paid.

Thank you everyone... and if these specific questions have been answered elsewhere, please point me in the right direction.

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Re: General CFRC Questions – Primary Reserve
« Reply #593 on: January 15, 2019, 14:52:04 »
$96.06 is the daily rate, as you pointed out. A "day" is from 6 hours to 24 hours. Training nights or anything under 6 hours would be half the amount.

You only get paid for what you work. If you go away on a course you will likely be class B and you will be paid the entire time as well as travel days. If the course is short or run locally through a unit, you will likely still be class A and will have to sign in for every day. BMQ, BMQ-L and trades course will likely take one or two summers. BMQ can also be done on weekends, so you will be paid accordingly.

Other employment opportunities may come up - recruiting events, first aid courses, SENTINEL program, odd jobs around the unit - all paid based on your daily rate.
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Re: General CFRC Questions – Primary Reserve
« Reply #594 on: January 15, 2019, 14:56:29 »
For part-time reservists, you are paid a full day's pay for a period in excess of 6 hours, and half of that amount for a period under six hours.  You will also receive a premium in lieu of leave of 9%.

If you are employed on a full-time basis (called class B) you are paid 7 days a week, even if your normal work period is a five day work week.  If your period of class B service is 30 days or more you will receive leave of 2 working days for each 30 day period.  If your full time service is under 30 days, you will receive the premium in lieu of leave of 9%.
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Re: General CFRC Questions – Primary Reserve
« Reply #595 on: January 28, 2019, 01:00:04 »
Hey guys appreciate if u could help me here. i applied for the reserve, i did my cfat last nov.2018 and had my medical and interview last month dec.2018. i tried to contact my recruiter thru email last week and asked him regarding about my application he said by the looks of my file im ready for enrollment and  i have to contact one of there senior file manager to ask more information about my file...after sending him email he replied the other day saying they have no record of my file?? like this is weird. would it be better to just call them??

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Re: General CFRC Questions – Primary Reserve
« Reply #596 on: January 28, 2019, 01:19:59 »
I would recommend calling them at the end of the week if you haven't heard anything. They could have typo'd something. With the reserves, there could be multiple units sharing one garrison. Ensure you're contacting the right one. Also, it may be possible your file didn't arrive yet. A lot of military correspondence is still done with pen and paper and usually requires multiple signatures as it passes from hand to hand. Do not be discouraged, give it a few days. Sometimes I get leave passes (Permission to take vacation days) returned to me with permission to do so weeks after I already took it.
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Re: General CFRC Questions – Primary Reserve
« Reply #597 on: January 28, 2019, 11:04:22 »
Thanks, i just received email this morning saying theyre sending my file to Ottawa next week for a background check, but any idea how long will it take?

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Re: General CFRC Questions – Primary Reserve
« Reply #598 on: January 28, 2019, 11:13:54 »
any idea how long will it take?

Application - How long does it take? (Merged)
https://army.ca/forums/index.php?topic=1256.25
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Re: General CFRC Questions – Primary Reserve
« Reply #599 on: January 28, 2019, 11:49:41 »
Thanks