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Re: Defending Canadian Arctic Sovereignty
« Reply #550 on: May 22, 2019, 17:13:58 »
...as opposed to the ‘Moose Factory to Asia’ route? ???
Well, via Halifax and the Panama Canal, of course.
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Re: Defending Canadian Arctic Sovereignty
« Reply #551 on: June 12, 2019, 22:08:10 »
https://www.defenseone.com/ideas/2019/06/trumps-new-arctic-policy-has-familiar-ring/157622/?oref=d-river

Author suggests a joint NW passage voyage.  Do we even have a ship that could do it?  St Laurent is in dry dock.  Could the AOPS do it in the future?

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Re: Defending Canadian Arctic Sovereignty
« Reply #552 on: June 12, 2019, 22:10:33 »
https://www.defenseone.com/ideas/2019/06/trumps-new-arctic-policy-has-familiar-ring/157622/?oref=d-river

Author suggests a joint NW passage voyage.  Do we even have a ship that could do it?  St Laurent is in dry dock.  Could the AOPS do it in the future?

It could, in fact a circumnavigation through the NW passage is expected by the Harry DeWolf class at some point I would imagine.
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Re: Defending Canadian Arctic Sovereignty
« Reply #553 on: June 13, 2019, 18:26:41 »
It could, in fact a circumnavigation through the NW passage is expected by the Harry DeWolf class at some point I would imagine.

I'm prepared to lead an expedition to right the wrongs inflicted upon Canadian sovereignty by this example of brazen, Dutch border bouncing :)

https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/north/dutch-kayaker-reaches-paulatuk-on-journey-through-northwest-passage-1.3195643
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Re: Defending Canadian Arctic Sovereignty
« Reply #554 on: June 14, 2019, 00:11:13 »
Raise a regiment of illregulars and call it the 5th Light Walts Rifles.

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Re: Defending Canadian Arctic Sovereignty
« Reply #555 on: July 25, 2019, 14:02:31 »
USN more concerned about Northern Sea Route than NorthwestPassage--excerpts, note CCG commandant:

How geopolitics make the U.S. Navy’s plans for major Arctic operations so complicated
The U.S. Navy will conduct some kind of Arctic operations this summer — but it hasn't said exactly what. Every option comes with potential issues.

In response to new Russian rules on the Northern Sea Route, the U.S. Navy plans to undertake significant operations in the Arctic this summer, perhaps even a freedom of navigation, or FONOPS, exercise — though the exact nature of those operations remains unclear.

But whatever form those operations take, they will be constrained by a complicated — and sometimes contradictory — set of geopolitical factors at work in the Arctic.

The Navy “has already talked about doing freedom of navigation operations or innocent passage, depending on what they’re going to call it, up through the Arctic this summer,” said U.S. Sen. Dan Sullivan, a Republican from Alaska, in remarks last week at a symposium on the Arctic in Washington. Sullivan added that the exercise would likely involve “a couple of destroyers.” (Disclosure: The writer moderated a separate event at this symposium.)

[US Navy plans to send surface vessels through the Arctic]

Speaking later that afternoon, Rear Adm. Thomas Marotta, the reserve assistant deputy chief of naval operations, plans and strategy, confirmed Sullivan’s remarks and earlier reports.

“Senator Sullivan told you this morning exactly what the Navy’s going to be doing in the Arctic,” Marotta said, joking that his job at the conference had been done for him.

In response to an ArcticToday inquiry to the Navy about plans to conduct FONOPS in the Arctic, a spokesperson sent a copy of its latest Arctic strategy as its only response.

Marotta also confirmed the impetus for such an exercise: the news, in March, that Russia would be restricting traffic on the Northern Sea Route — with requirements to notify them 45 days in advance, detail the characteristics of the ship or ships, and bring Russian pilots aboard foreign ships. In May, Secretary of State Mike Pompeo said that Russian requirements on the Northern Sea Route were illegal — and also labeled parallel Canadian claims to sovereignty over the Northwest Passage as “illegitimate. [emphasis added]”..

Marotta also made clear in his remarks that the Navy’s dispute is with Russia, not Canada — despite a decades-long disagreement over the Northwest Passage, which Canada claims as internal waters and the U.S. sees as an international seaway.

“But there’s never been a requirement or a threat from the Canadian government to arrest your captain or sink your ship,” Marotta said. “So that’s why the conflict is in the Arctic.”

The secretary of the Navy, Richard Spencer, first commented in December that the U.S. Navy should be conducting freedom of navigation operations in the Arctic.

“We need to be doing FONOPS in the northwest — in the northern passage,” Spencer said at an event with the Center for Strategic and International Studies in Washington, D.C. It was unclear from that speech whether Spencer was referring to the Northwest Passage or the Northern Sea Route.

[The US Navy’s revived 2nd Fleet, with a focus on the North Atlantic and nearby Arctic, is now operational]

At an April hearing before the Senate Committee on Armed Services, Sen. Sullivan asked Sec. Spencer about freedom of navigation operations in the Arctic.

“The Arctic is a focus of ours, and we’ve never taken our eyes off of it,” Spencer replied. He said that he and Adm. John Richardson, chief of naval operations, had discussed “the possibility of bringing some ships up, maybe up to Valdez,” in the summer. In that hearing, Spencer emphasized the importance of cold-weather training and preparedness — in part to prepare for freedom of navigation and other “diligent maneuvers” in the circumpolar north...

Another option could be a joint exercise with Canada.

“That would be far less controversial,” Pincus said.

However, the United States’ only medium icebreaker, the USCGC Healy, is booked through the summer, so it’s unlikely that it could escort Navy vessels through ice-infested waters. The transit would have to take place in clear waters, or it would have to be with an ally like Canada.

Jeff Hutchinson, commissioner of the Canadian Coast Guard, told ArcticToday in May that he wasn’t aware of any joint operations planned. “But that doesn’t mean we might not plan one in the future,” he said. He pointed to a recent precedent, the 2017 exercise where a Canadian Coast Guard icebreaker assisted the USCGC Maple through the Northwest Passage.

Hutchinson also mentioned the possibility of an exercise with Denmark, the United States and Canada
[emphasis added].

“The Danes are really interested in strengthening the North American relationship — of course, Greenland is geographically part of North America,” he said. “So, I could see that in the not-too-distant future.”

However, he cautioned against associating exercises such as these with official freedom of navigation operations.

Responding to Sec. Spencer’s comments, Hutchinson said, “Somebody should remind the secretary that the Canadians know better than anybody: When people go through there, it’s almost always with our help.”

The majority of ships that go through the Northwest Passage rely directly on Canadian Coast Guard vessels to get them through, he added...


The crew of U.S. Coast Guard Cutter Maple follows the crew of Canadian Coast Guard Icebreaker Terry Fox through the icy waters of Franklin Strait, in Nunavut Canada, August 11, 2017. The Canadian Coast Guard assisted Maple’s crew by breaking and helping navigate through ice during several days of Maple’s 2017 Northwest Passage transit. (Petty Officer 2nd Class Nate Littlejohn / U.S. Coast Guard)

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Re: Defending Canadian Arctic Sovereignty
« Reply #556 on: July 25, 2019, 20:19:06 »
The USCG icebreaking fleet makes us look pretty good in comparison.

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Re: Defending Canadian Arctic Sovereignty
« Reply #558 on: July 26, 2019, 10:38:38 »
When they are floating i will believe it.

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Re: Defending Canadian Arctic Sovereignty
« Reply #559 on: July 26, 2019, 14:31:41 »
Earlier on planned new USCG icebreakers (rebadged as "Polar Security Cutters" to sound defence-oriented in order to make it easier to get money from Congress)--note major role for US breakers has been in the Antarctic, not the Arctic:

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Coast Guard Hopes to Have 3 Polar Security Cutters Fielded by 2028 [one hopes CCG will have its one planned new polar icebreaker by then, presumably built by Davie now that that ship has been taken from Seaspan https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/nova-scotia/icebreaker-vancouver-seaspan-national-shipbuilding-strategy-1.5173027 ]

The Coast Guard hopes to have its first three heavy icebreakers fielded by 2027 or 2028 to replace the one icebreaker that is increasingly struggling to make it to Antarctica and back each year and to increase U.S. presence in the high latitudes, the commandant said today.

U.S. Coast Guard Commandant Adm. Karl Schultz said this morning that the icebreaker program – a planned three heavy icebreakers dubbed the Polar Security Cutter and three medium icebreakers – was more capital-intensive than most Coast Guard acquisition efforts, but “right now my sense is we enjoy support from the administration, we enjoy bipartisan, bicameral support” in Congress, he said while speaking on a service chiefs panel at the Navy League’s annual Sea Air Space conference.

After awarding a $745 million contract to VT Halter on April 23, “we’re off to the races” on buying the first ship. This first ship is supposed to deliver to the Coast Guard in 2023. Still, Schultz noted, the Fiscal Year 2020 budget proposal only contains $35 million for the program as a bridge, to keep the acquisition office and construction yard humming until “a big tranche of money” is ideally awarded in FY 2021 to buy the second ship of the class.

“You’ll see larger asks here to get after the second and the third polar security cutter. Ideally projected into our capital investment plan or CIP you’ll see between now and 2028 the [funds] to deliver on those first three polar security cutters,” Schultz said.

Schultz did not elaborate on specifically when he hoped each ship would be put on contract, but maintaining and every-other-year acquisition profile – buying the second and third ships in FY 2021 and 2023, respectively – would allow for all three to be in the fleet by 2027 or 2028.

The first cutter, he said, would replace the 43-year-old USCGC Polar Star (WAGB-10), which has experienced more and more severe engineering casualties in recent years when it makes its annual voyage to the McMurdo Station in Antarctica.

“It’s the second and third subsequent hulls that gives us increased presence at the high latitude region,” Schultz added.

Schultz said repeatedly that “presence equals influence up there” and that the Coast Guard needed to remain involved in any commercial or military activity taking place in the Arctic as waterways open up
[emphasis added]...
https://news.usni.org/2019/05/06/coast-guard-hopes-to-have-3-polar-security-cutters-fielded-by-2028

And this from July 9:

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Report to Congress on Coast Guard Polar Security Cutter
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https://news.usni.org/2019/07/09/report-to-congress-on-coast-guard-polar-security-cutter-2

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Re: Defending Canadian Arctic Sovereignty
« Reply #560 on: July 26, 2019, 14:40:13 »
Earlier on planned new USCG icebreakers (rebadged as "Polar Security Cutters" to sound defence-oriented in order to make it easier to get money from Congress)--note major role for US breakers has been in the Antarctic, not the Arctic:

And this from July 9:

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Re: Defending Canadian Arctic Sovereignty
« Reply #561 on: July 26, 2019, 14:50:00 »
Some specs on USCG ships, note delivery dates : https://vthm.com/polar-security-cutter/

“The U.S. Department of the Navy has awarded VT Halter Marine of Pascagoula, Mississippi, as the prime contractor of a $745,940,860 fixed-price incentive-firm contract for the detail design and construction of the U.S. Coast Guard (USCG) PSC (formerly the Heavy Polar Icebreaker). The PSC program is a multiple year Department of Homeland Security Level 1 investment and a USCG major system initiative to acquire up to three multi-mission PSCs to recapitalize the USCG’s fleet of heavy icebreakers. This contract includes options which, if exercised, would bring the cumulative value of this contract to $1,942,812,266. The first ship delivery is scheduled to occur in 2024, the second in 2025 and the last delivering in early 2027.

The Polar Security Cutter will fill a current, definitive need for the Coast Guard’s statutory mission and provide support for other mission needs in the higher latitudes vital to the economic vitality, scientific inquiry and national interests of the United States.

VT Halter Marine is teamed with Technology Associates, Inc. as the ship designer and, for over two years, has participated in the U.S. Coast Guard’s Heavy Polar Icebreaker Industry Study. The ship design is an evolution from the mature ”Polar Stern II” currently in design and construction; the team has worked rigorously to demonstrate its maturity and reliability. During the study, TAI incrementally adjusted the design and conducted a series of five ship model tank tests to optimize the design. The vessels are 460 feet in length with a beam of 88 feet overall, a full load displacement of approximately 22,900 long tons at delivery. The propulsion will be diesel electric at over 45,200 horse power and readily capable of breaking ice between six to eight feet thick. The vessel will accommodate 186 personnel comfortably for an extended endurance of 90 days.“
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Re: Defending Canadian Arctic Sovereignty
« Reply #562 on: July 26, 2019, 19:24:27 »
From Cloud Cover above:
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During the study, TAI incrementally adjusted the design and conducted a series of five ship model tank tests to optimize the design

Some of that USCG tank testing, June 2018 story:

U.S. Coast Guard turns to Canada for help with designing its new heavy icebreaker

With growing concerns over its apparent “icebreaker gap” with Russia and an urgent need to replace its only operational heavy icebreaker the United States Coast Guard has turned to Canada for help in designing the future generation of its polar-class heavy icebreakers.

The U.S. Coast Guard is collaborating with the National Research Council of Canada (NRC) to access its renowned ice tank facilities in St. John’s, Newfoundland, to model and evaluate the specifications needed to design the new heavy icebreakers...


Researchers tested multiple scale models of heavy icebreakers with different hull designs and propulsion configurations at the National Research Council of Canada in St. John’s, Newfoundland and Labrador. (National Research Council of Canada)
https://www.rcinet.ca/eye-on-the-arctic/2018/06/22/u-s-coast-guard-canada-heavy-icebreaker-nrc-ice-tank/

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Re: Defending Canadian Arctic Sovereignty
« Reply #563 on: August 21, 2019, 10:59:43 »
Note Russkie icebreaker help--our A/OPS derived from Svalbard:

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Norwegian Coast Guard vessel reaches North Pole
Both Canadian and US Coast Guard have sailed to the top of the world before, but «KV Svalbard» became the first Norwegian ship to reach the North Pole.

The ice-breaking capable «KV Svalbard» sails in the Arctic ice as part of CAATEX, an ocean climate change research project led by Nansen Environmental and Remote Sensing Centre.

On Wednesday, the ship made history by becoming the first Norwegian vessel to reach the North Pole, the Coast Guard writes in a tweet.

TV2 can tell that the Norwegian Coast Guard vessel partly sailed in a path in the ice made by a Russian icebreaker. Sailing with tourists to the North Pole, the nuclear-powered icebreaker «50 let Pobedy» has been to the top of the world five times this summer.

It was also a Russian nuclear-powered icebreaker, the «Arktika» that on August 17th 1977 became the world’s first surface vessel to reach the North Pole. First attempt to drift over the Arctic Ocean was done by Fridtjof Nansen and his crew onboard the «Fram» in 1893-96.

Sailing under the ice, the U.S. nuclear-powered submarine «USS Nautilus» became the first to reach the North Pole on August 3rd, 1958.

The first non-nuclear-powered ship to reach the North Pole was the Swedish icebreaker «Oden» in September 1991. In 1994, the two Canadian Coast Guard icebreakers «CCGS Terry Fox» and «CCGC Louis S. St-Laurent» made it to the North Pole, while the Coast Guard vessel «Healy» became the first U.S. surface vessel at the North Pole in 2005.


"KV Svalbard" came to 90 degrees North on August 21st, 2019. Photo: Norwegian Coast Guard
https://thebarentsobserver.com/en/arctic/2019/08/norwegian-coast-guard-vessel-reach-north-pole

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Re: Defending Canadian Arctic Sovereignty
« Reply #564 on: August 21, 2019, 11:04:37 »
After losing a frigate earlier I guess they needed a 'feel good' story for the people back home.

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Re: Defending Canadian Arctic Sovereignty
« Reply #565 on: August 22, 2019, 03:19:04 »
Note Russkie icebreaker help--our A/OPS derived from Svalbard:

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Re: Defending Canadian Arctic Sovereignty
« Reply #566 on: August 22, 2019, 11:22:27 »
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Why is it considered better that we liberal Danes run Greenland rather than the Americans? Is liberalism more effective at countering Russian and Chinese expansionist ambitions?

Gullible Danes, who are now smugly laughing off Trump’s offer, find Chinese commercial investment innocent because it does not make territorial claims explicit. And our pacifist vision for the territory is to let well-intentioned scientists dig for ice-core samples to figure out how the climate looked in the Jurassic age and mine the vast frozen island for stories about melting ice to frighten the world.

Handing Greenland to the United States is Denmark’s only chance to counter Russian arctic domination and Chinese ambitions. With Global warming opening up major sea lanes in the north, that will considerably reduce time and costs for commercial shipping as well as unleash a bonanza of untapped oil and rare metals riches. The addition of Greenland to US territory will enhance Denmark’s security and guarantee that Greenland’s resources are tapped to our benefit and not to that of China, who has been showing an increasing and keen interest in Greenland’s geological riches.

Greenland is a territory of enormous strategic importance. Truman acknowledged this when he sought to acquire the territory in 1946 for £80m ($100m) and Trump has only made explicit what US foreign policy experts have been advocating for decades. When the West’s Middle East ambitions imploded after the disaster in Iraq, many think-tankers began to explore the Arctic question. It is clear from the many papers written on this that it is a generation-defining issue.

Russia has already claimed ownership in the Arctic and strengthened its military presence greatly. It demands that freighters ask permission to use the Northern sea route and demands that Russian pilots are allowed on board. This is exactly what the Danish king used to do at Elsinore where tolls would be wrested from merchant vessels by training cannons at traffic on the sound. This extorted money funded the Danish empire.

As for the Greenlanders, among its 50,000 inhabitants, there has been a strong and growing independence movement fed by resentment of Danish colonial policies. The Greenlander union boss, Jess G. Berthelsen, famously said that he would rather crap in a bucket than take the yearly £400m lump sum from the Danish government. There is no doubt that there would be a majority for a US acquisition, if the price was right.

Even though we have jesters for kings now, the basic security structure remains the same. Putin and Xi are wolves let loose among the liberal sheep of the Arctic (Norway, Canada, Denmark, Sweden and Iceland). I would much rather entrust the security of my family to the capable force of the American military than to a rag-tag bunch of smug Danish liberals.

Thomas Vann Altheimer is a filmmaker from Copenhagen

https://blogs.spectator.co.uk/2019/08/why-denmark-should-sell-greenland-to-donald-trump/

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Re: Defending Canadian Arctic Sovereignty
« Reply #567 on: August 22, 2019, 17:27:57 »
Why is Byers the go-to guy?

https://apnews.com/20632f3e017741b89a15e0d0927a7ada

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Re: Defending Canadian Arctic Sovereignty
« Reply #568 on: August 22, 2019, 18:12:47 »
To be fair to Byers he is quite good when it comes to the legal issues around the Arctic and laws regarding international marine boundaries. When he starts talking about military matters I stop listening. 

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Re: Defending Canadian Arctic Sovereignty
« Reply #569 on: August 22, 2019, 20:25:55 »
 :ditto:

Very good for arctic stuff I agree.  Perhaps if Greenland doesn't want to go with the US and is against working with the Danes still we could make an offer...

Pros and Cons of that? 

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Re: Defending Canadian Arctic Sovereignty
« Reply #570 on: August 22, 2019, 21:30:30 »
We already do a terrible job of looking after our North, they take one look at the effort we put into our Northern communities and say "No thanks". The US already pumps a lot of money into Greenland, so for now they can have their cake and eat it to.

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Re: Defending Canadian Arctic Sovereignty
« Reply #571 on: August 22, 2019, 23:16:51 »
We already do a terrible job of looking after our North, they take one look at the effort we put into our Northern communities and say "No thanks". The US already pumps a lot of money into Greenland, so for now they can have their cake and eat it to.

I doubt Greenlanders get much cake from a US presence in their country.  Their one big location in Greenland is Thule.  Don't try imagining it as a typical base that pumps money into the local (environs of the base) economy by purchasing goods and services for base operations or by providing a customer base who will live in the community and frequent local merchants.  There are no local merchants because there is no local community (. . . nearest village is located 75 miles away).  The locals who used to live where the base is now were relocated (against their will) somewhere around a hundred miles away.  There have been (maybe still ongoing?) lawsuits from some of the dispossessed to regain their traditional hunting grounds that they are still forbidden to use.

Where does the USAF get their supplies?  Just like the CAF at Alert, they are shipped in from down south (the United States).  As for providing employment for Greenlanders:

https://www.businessinsider.com/what-its-like-to-serve-at-thule-air-base-2016-4
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Today, the base typically is used for allied surveillance of the northern polar region and has a stripped-down presence of  approximately 400 Danes, 50 Greenlanders, three Canadians, and 140 American military and support staff.

Surely the US government pays a hefty rent for their base and the environmental impact of military operations that has included nuclear radiation from the attempt to station nuclear missiles and the crash of an armed bomber (not including the bomb that is still missing).  According to the 1951 US/Denmark agreement:
https://avalon.law.yale.edu/20th_century/den001.asp
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Government of the United States of America, without compensation to the Government of the Kingdom of Denmark, may use such defense area in cooperation with the Government of the Kingdom of Denmark for the defense of Greenland and the rest of the North Atlantic Treaty area, and may construct such facilities and undertake such activities therein as will not impede the activities of the Government of the Kingdom of Denmark in such area.

There was some updating of agreements in 2004 to take into account the changes in the autonomy of Greenland, but in terms of payment to Greenland it was something in the neighbourhood of $20 million.

Some info about Thule.
https://www.af.mil/News/Article-Display/Article/128262/life-at-thule/
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Re: Defending Canadian Arctic Sovereignty
« Reply #573 on: August 27, 2019, 11:36:01 »
Sensible US piece here, lots on Canada, note CCG commissioner (no reporting in our media)--excerpts from Seapower, official publication of the Navy League of the United States, headline a bit of a stretch:

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High Latitudes, Higher Tension: Ice-Diminished Arctic Does Not Extend a Warm Welcome
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Speaking at the Navy League’s Sea-Air-Space exposition in May, Commandant of the Coast Guard Adm. Karl Schultz announced that the service had just contracted for its new Polar Security Cutter (PSC), calling it the “first recapitalization of the heavy icebreaker capability in the nation in more than 40 years.” Simultaneously, and what Schultz said was no coincidence, the Coast Guard issued its new “Arctic Strategic Outlook.”

The U.S. Navy released “Strategic Outlook for the Arctic” in January, which outlines the objectives of defending U.S. sovereignty and the homeland from attack, ensuring that the Arctic remains a stable and conflict-free region, preserving freedom of the seas, and promoting partnerships within the U.S. Government and with allies and partners to achieve these objectives.

According to the Danish “Defence Agreement 2018-2023,” “Climate change brings not only better accessibility, but also an increased attention to the extraction of natural resources as well as intensified commercial and scientific activity. There is also increased military activity in the area.”..

All of these documents and action underscore concerns about presence, sovereignty, safety and security, environmental, economic, and world power competition in the Arctic. Russia has been open about its massive military buildup in the Arctic, but Russia has a vested interest in extracting resources and building access to markets. In fact, Russia gets 20 percent of its gross domestic product from the north — not the situation in North America [emphasis added]. In 2018, China announced in its official Arctic strategy a $1 trillion program to develop polar regions economically, declaring itself a “Near-Arctic State.” Russia’s military expansion and China’s attempts to invest in a ports on Baffin Island and airports in Greenland have alarmed the West. However, all the nations have a goal to maintain the Arctic as a low-tension area, stressing cooperation and collaboration...

The Royal Canadian Navy has commissioned [not yet] the first of six Harry DeWolf Arctic and offshore patrol vessels, and two more are planned for the Canadian Coast Guard. The CCG is also modifying three icebreakers procured from Sweden for use in Canadian waters...

There has been an increase in traffic in Canada’s Northwest Passage, including transits by the Crystal Serenity cruise ship in 2016 and 2017. But the ice is unpredictable and prevented ships from getting through last year. The 27 rural communities in Canada’s Nunavut territory are not connect by roads, but must be resupplied once a year by ship or barge, and are dependent on the capability to operate in the Arctic in the summer. Both the Royal Canadian Navy and Coast Guard hope their new ships will allow them to work farther north, and upgrading a former mining pier at Nanasivik to be used as a refueling port will let them stay longer.

Cooperation

Also speaking at Sea-Air-Space, U.S. Coast Guard Deputy Commandant for Operations Vice Adm. Daniel B. Abel talked about profound partnerships and native knowledge. He served previously in command of the 17th Coast Guard District in Juneau, Alaska, where he learned to “Listen to those who live there, who are impacted by the Arctic.”

The Alaskan coastline is more than 6,600 miles long, Abel said — more than the entire coastline for the lower 48 states. So cooperation is an absolute necessity.

We work closely with our partners in the Arctic, including our neighbors in Canada, who are the best partners we could ever have [emphasis added],” Abel said.

But that includes all the players in the Arctic. “The distance across the Bering Strait is 44 miles, the same distance as Washington is to Baltimore. That’s how close the United States is to Russia,” Abel said. “Clearly, we have to cooperate.”

Commissioner of the Canadian Coast Guard Jeffery Hutchinson, speaking at the Sea-Air-Space, said the Arctic is “not as frozen as it once was, but from where we sit, there’s still lots of ice [emphasis added].”

The U.S. and Canada work closely with the other Arctic nations, as members of the Arctic Coast Guard Forum. “We all understand the vastness in the Arctic, in the ice, on the seas and on the land. It requires everyone to pull together,” Hutchinson said. “There isn’t an Arctic nation that hasn’t had to rely on another Arctic nation, at some point — and I say that with pride and humility.

One important way nations cooperate in through scientific research and environmental data collection. This fall the German research icebreaker Polarstern will get stuck in the Arctic ice on purpose, and drift for a year as teams of 600 scientists and researchers from 17 countries rotate on and off the ship to collect data that would otherwise be impractical or impossible. The Multidisciplinary drifting Observatory for the Study of Arctic Climate (MOSAiC) will study the Arctic climate system and how it relates to global climate models. The U.S., Canada, Denmark, Finland, Iceland, New Zealand, Norway and Sweden are participating in the International Cooperative Engagement Program for Polar Research (ICE-PPR), which shares in the development and use of polar sensors and remote sensing techniques, data collection, environmental modeling and prediction, and associated human factors involved in operating in the extreme latitudes. The Canadian Armed Forces are leading the multinational Joint Arctic Experiment...
https://seapowermagazine.org/high-latitudes-higher-tension-ice-diminished-arctic-does-not-extend-a-warm-welcome/

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Re: Defending Canadian Arctic Sovereignty
« Reply #574 on: August 27, 2019, 12:49:52 »
If you want to have a lower cost, regularly achievable option of staking a claim to Arctic Sovereignty, why not make it a primary task of the reserves?

They could train all year to deploy to the high arctic in the summer, then conduct live firing/ other training on the rocky shores of Cornwallis and Baffin Islands, near all weather air and sea ports. Make it part of OP SNOWGOOSE or something.

I mean, if Army Cadets (like me and Ian Hope) can do it... #summerarcticindoctrinationcourse https://www.armycadethistory.com/Arctic_Indoc_main.htm

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