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Re: Medical Rejection: How to Appeal? [Merged]
« Reply #25 on: November 25, 2004, 03:37:04 »
Dreadnought:
 There is a related thread "Allergies in the CF" on I believe pg. 3 in the recruiting forum you may want to read. The reason for concern is with some allergies such as seafood, bee and wasp stings ect. there is a possibility they may become much worse with each further exposure. Thats why they requested further testing to determine the situation. And yes there are people in the forces with allergies that require carrying an epi-pen but they would be on a medical category. But it is not likely they would process a application for someone to start on a category. Although they may not release a serving member they probally won't enrol someone in this situation. Same would also apply to diabetics. Medical conditions for serving members at times require a remuster.
Go ahead with the testing and hope for the best. If it is bad news at least you will have the proper knowledge of your situation which could possibly save your life.

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Re: Medical Rejection: How to Appeal? [Merged]
« Reply #26 on: November 25, 2004, 05:27:36 »
Mrosseker:

You'll be fine.  I had/have mild asthma also.  At the time when I applied they weren't as stringent, so they never even asked me to see a doctor about it, the medic just accepted my statement that I hadn't had any asthma problems for 3 years or so.  They seem to have started getting more picky since then....what happened with you was probably just plain stupidity on someones part, but now that you've had the physical and they've gotten a letter from your doctor as well, you shouldn't have any more problems.

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Re: Medical Rejection: How to Appeal? [Merged]
« Reply #27 on: November 25, 2004, 10:41:26 »
Is crab meat so prevalent in the Forces' food that it is even a problem?  Maybe I don't want to join after all... ;)

As for the asthma thing...don't get me started on that.
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Re: Medical Rejection: How to Appeal? [Merged]
« Reply #28 on: November 25, 2004, 15:49:25 »
Just out of curosity (this is a long one).... Whats the turn around time like when your medical closed your file but then you got the doctors note and additional information ettc.  My medical closed my file October 5 but I provided all the extra information in to the recruitment office on November 15th.  Before that it took me 3 1/2 months to hear anything from the medical.  Is it going to take this long again?  Also,  am I going to have to go through the whole application proccess again?  One recruiter said no (cause if the paperwork and security clearance are under a year then theres no need to redo if nothing has changed), and another one told me I'd have to go through it all again.  I know I'll have to do the physical again (no problem there!) cause mine was done almost 6 months ago.  I live in Edmonton if that matters at all and I'm going to try for infantry, combat eng., MP.  BTW my medical came back because of a slight wheeze ( I did a PFS and it came back excellent).  Last but not leasest what are my chances of my medical coming back good (my doctor provided all the reports and letter stating that I am in excellent health no employment rest. etc)?  This has been a lifelong dream for me and I can't seem to get straight answer anywhere.


PS I really hope that all this information isn't posted on another forum here cause then I'd feel like a real idiot!

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Re: Medical Rejection: How to Appeal? [Merged]
« Reply #29 on: November 25, 2004, 19:51:09 »
Your medical won't go any faster the second time around.  The first time, mine took about 2 to 2 1/2 months; the second time it took 4 1/2 months.

I had to fill out another application form even though it had been less than a year, but the only thing I had to redo was the fitness test.
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Re: Medical Rejection: How to Appeal? [Merged]
« Reply #30 on: December 24, 2004, 21:18:31 »
Does V4 equal to -4.00?

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Re: Medical Rejection: How to Appeal? [Merged]
« Reply #31 on: December 25, 2004, 03:22:51 »
I never really understood what the different V levels were.

I am -4.75, -4.00 (almost blind without glasses) and was classified V3 2 yrs ago when I went to CFRC.   @ that time I'd prolly be in the -3.00s somewhere.

edit...I think you need v1-v3 for any of the combat arms.

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Re: Medical Rejection: How to Appeal? [Merged]
« Reply #32 on: December 25, 2004, 04:14:39 »
that is correct dingbat.. hence the reason i was dropped from the combat arms...grrr....  :threat:
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Re: Medical Rejection: How to Appeal? [Merged]
« Reply #33 on: December 25, 2004, 20:05:34 »
wow, i don't know what happened to me then... 4.75, 5.25 -- I think i remember it was determined by seeing a big "E" on the vision screen. I don't quite recall the method that was used to determine the V score, anyone remember?

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Re: Medical Rejection: How to Appeal? [Merged]
« Reply #34 on: December 25, 2004, 23:49:16 »
It's basically read the letters off the wall.

Lol..."take off your glasses and read off the top line." my response....silence...


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Re: Medical Rejection: How to Appeal? [Merged]
« Reply #35 on: December 26, 2004, 09:28:37 »
didn't you try squinting really hard?...usually works for me  :)

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Re: Medical Rejection: How to Appeal? [Merged]
« Reply #36 on: December 26, 2004, 20:07:07 »
With my eyesight...squinting doesn't do anything.

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Re: Medical Rejection: How to Appeal? [Merged]
« Reply #37 on: January 18, 2005, 21:17:10 »
is there a difference between the medical board and the selection board?  and if so, if you are set for the selection board, does this mean that you've passed the medical board?

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Re: Medical Rejection: How to Appeal? [Merged]
« Reply #38 on: January 18, 2005, 21:33:48 »
The medical boards and selection boards are completely different.  However you cannot get to the latter without clearing the former.  Your CFRC probably won't send your file to the selection boards until your medical has cleared.  Venero, the medical will take longer if you have any major outstanding issues, first they will be looked over by the MO at bordon, then if need be they will send the file to an appropriate specialist, this is where the wait begins because the CFRC's are not on the top of the priority list of the specialists.  Good Luck.

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Re: Medical Rejection: How to Appeal? [Merged]
« Reply #39 on: January 18, 2005, 21:44:06 »
The medical boards and selection boards are completely different.   However you cannot get to the latter without clearing the former.   Your CFRC probably won't send your file to the selection boards until your medical has cleared.   Venero, the medical will take longer if you have any major outstanding issues, first they will be looked over by the MO at bordon, then if need be they will send the file to an appropriate specialist, this is where the wait begins because the CFRC's are not on the top of the priority list of the specialists.   Good Luck.

In short, one would not be put to the selection board unless after receiving clearance from the med staff?

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Re: Medical Rejection: How to Appeal? [Merged]
« Reply #40 on: January 18, 2005, 22:32:18 »
The average time for a medical to come back from Borden is 3 weeks depending on how busy they are.

3 Weeks, where are you doing processing, Borden?

You are right about the delays, if they're busy it takes a while.
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Re: Medical Rejection: How to Appeal? [Merged]
« Reply #41 on: January 18, 2005, 22:40:05 »
In short, one would not be put to the selection board unless after receiving clearance from the med staff?

Yes, that is what I have been told repeatedly from the CFRC.

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Re: Medical Rejection: How to Appeal? [Merged]
« Reply #42 on: January 20, 2005, 06:19:53 »
the Doc at the CF RC said that he found nothing wrong with me and that he recommended Immediate enrollment, will this speed up my file at Borden? and are they still backed up 8 weeks as mentioned in a previous rep;y?
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Re: Medical Rejection: How to Appeal? [Merged]
« Reply #43 on: January 20, 2005, 17:03:55 »
Mine medical only took 2 and a half weeks to come back.

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Re: Medical Rejection: How to Appeal? [Merged]
« Reply #44 on: January 22, 2005, 02:44:37 »
the Doc at the CF RC said that he found nothing wrong with me and that he recommended Immediate enrollment, will this speed up my file at Borden? and are they still backed up 8 weeks as mentioned in a previous rep;y?

If the "Doc" at CFRC is recommending immediate enrollment, you're joining a Res Unit.  For Reserves, any one whom applied AFTER 1 Jun 04, is eligible for "conditional" enrollment, pending a successful competion of PT 1 and 2 of the medical.  Unfortunately, reg force apps must complete all 3 parts prior to enrollment.

If a reserve medical (post 1 Jun 04) has been sent away to RMO, a problem has arisen in PT 1 or 2 and requires a decision by the Recruiting Med O in Borden.  Unfortunately again, he is swamped with files.
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Re: Medical Rejection: How to Appeal? [Merged]
« Reply #45 on: January 22, 2005, 05:35:56 »
Militia NCMs don't go to the selection boards.  It's up to the CO of the unit to hire the applicant.
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Re: Medical Rejection: How to Appeal? [Merged]
« Reply #46 on: January 22, 2005, 14:01:22 »
Thanx for the info Love, glad to hear I wont be waiting forever!!

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Re: Medical Rejection: How to Appeal? [Merged]
« Reply #47 on: January 27, 2005, 19:48:27 »
I was told to wait 2 months for medical too.  Am I notified when the medical review is finished?

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Re: Medical Rejection: How to Appeal? [Merged]
« Reply #48 on: October 19, 2005, 17:52:16 »
Looking for answers in regards to a letter i received from Ottawa today.

During my medical evaluation in Edmonton I honestly mentioned that in the past i have sustained ankle and shoulder injuries from rugby. Both of these injuries are now over 5 years old and do not in any way effect me physically.  I passed my fitness test with the instructor commenting that i performed extremely well (i'm a female applicant), and also passed the recruiting medical. 

Today i received a letter from the Recruiting medical officer in Ottawa stating that because of the above mentioned injuries I do not meet the common enrolment standard and medical limitations have been assigned, meaning I'm not eligable for reg or reserve forces.  I provided documentation earlier from my family doctor stating that i was physically fit and able and am now wondering where I go from here. 

Of course my career counsellor doesn't answer his phone and I haven't been able to speak to him yet, but I was wondering if anyone knows the procedure for something like this?  I know I am fit and do meet the standard, is there any way I can appeal this decision? 

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Re: Medical Rejection: How to Appeal? [Merged]
« Reply #49 on: October 19, 2005, 18:37:49 »
Go and talk to the PA or Med Tech that did your recruiting medical.   They can tell you if you have any recourse and sometimes the letter tells you if there is any recourse.   Your MCC can't help you so stop trying to contact him/her because until you meet the enrolment medical standards there is nothing they can do for you.. The physical is only part of the eligibility criteria along with the medical, CFAT, and background check.
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