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https://globalnews.ca/news/7392996/canadian-reservists-wolves-fake-letter/amp/

Welcome to a PR nightmare, not a person named but a unit that created this. Why do I feel like an OC is about to find a new job.

« Last Edit: October 13, 2020, 16:35:42 by BeyondTheNow »
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An Intel unit studying the art of disinformation, perhaps?

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Re: CF reservists behind fake letter warning of wolves being released
« Reply #2 on: October 12, 2020, 21:19:52 »
Troops doing stupid things as a joke is nothing new.  This is not the first time, nor will it be the last time.

Every unit CO experiences this sort of thing during their tenure.
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Are we sure that this wasn't a mistake by the media that should have said "members of a unit"? 

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An Intel unit studying the art of disinformation, perhaps?

If these are exercise products of some sort they are supposed to be labelled as such.
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Nice memo formatting.   ;)
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I feel sorry for the CO of the base at Aldershot...how do you rebuild relations with the community after something like this?
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Nice memo formatting.   ;)

Except for addressing the letter "To Whom it May Concern" rather than "Dear Resident"and a typo "untook" instead of "undertook" they did a pretty good job.
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An Intel unit studying the art of disinformation, perhaps?

I don't think 3 Int Coy has any sub-units in Camp Aldershot. 

There is a 5th Canadian Division Training Centre detachment there, the West Nova Scotia Regiment (West Novies), and I thought I read in the recent past The Halifax Rifles had a Troop/sub-unit there.

The letter, which looked like an official note from the province’s Department of Lands and Forestry, wound up in a number of mailboxes of residents in Kings County.

Mailboxes makes it sound to me like someone made the effort to *print and distribute* the letters.   :pop:
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The latest is that this was material meant to be part of misinformation training and was never intended to be distributed to the public. Apparently said training also involved loud speakers broadcasting wolf sounds. According to Public affairs this was not supposed to be part of the training and are now investigating what is going on at the unit in question, The Halifax Rifles.
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The latest is that this was material meant to be part of misinformation training and was never intended to be distributed to the public. Apparently said training also involved loud speakers broadcasting wolf sounds. According to Public affairs this was not supposed to be part of the training and are now investigating what is going on at the unit in question, The Halifax Rifles.

http://www.army-armee.forces.gc.ca/en/5-canadian-division/the-halifax-rifles/index.page
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The mission task for our unit is: Influence Activities – A company of 52 members, which is trained in the employment of population group influence techniques, including Psychological Operations and Civil-Military Cooperation, to provide behavioural and psychological effects on those populations in support of a Commander’s intent or mission.

If the psychological effect is to piss off the population, then they have made a good start.
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The latest is that this was material meant to be part of misinformation training and was never intended to be distributed to the public. Apparently said training also involved loud speakers broadcasting wolf sounds. According to Public affairs this was not supposed to be part of the training and are now investigating what is going on at the unit in question, The Halifax Rifles.

Source for your "latest"?  Did it include any comments on how letters were distributed to communities?? 

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Source for your "latest"?  Did it include any comments on how letters were distributed to communities??

Source is against site policy, it did not include how, I suspect that will be part of the investigation. Social media is exploding with conspiracy theories that the CAF is preparing to use propaganda against Canadian citizens. Not a good day to be in public affairs.
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Source is against site policy, it did not include how, I suspect that will be part of the investigation. Social media is exploding with conspiracy theories that the CAF is preparing to use propaganda against Canadian citizens. Not a good day to be in public affairs.

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Source is against site policy, it did not include how, I suspect that will be part of the investigation. Social media is exploding with conspiracy theories that the CAF is preparing to use propaganda against Canadian citizens. Not a good day to be in public affairs.

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Social media is exploding with conspiracy theories that the CAF is preparing to use propaganda against Canadian citizens.

Seems like an excellent time for the CAF to have mbrs share IA-approved messages on their personal social media pages.
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If these are exercise products of some sort they are supposed to be labelled as such.

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One of my philosophies is "every organization has a loser or losers". It seems we've found some...
Seems like an excellent time for the CAF to have mbrs share IA-approved messages on their personal social media pages.
:nod: on both of these points

Some of the latest from The Canadian Press ...
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The Canadian Armed Forces is apologizing after some residents of Kings County, N.S., received a phoney letter warning of wolves in the area.

The letter, dated Sept. 19, said a pack of eight grey wolves had been released in northern Nova Scotia in August to reintroduce the species into the ecosystem.

Lt. Lance Wade, a public affairs officer with the36 Canadian Brigade Group, acknowledged in an interview Tuesday that the letter came from an army reserve training session at Camp Aldershot outside Kentville, N.S.

"We're sincerely apologetic," Wade said, adding the incident was a first for reservists. "Any inconvenience we've caused to the public and the Department of Lands and Forestry, we deeply regret."

He said he doesn't know why the training required the false note or how it got into civilian mailboxes. He said an investigation is ongoing.

"It seems relatively innocuous," he said. "Once we have all the facts, we'll be happy to explain a little bit further on why that was chosen." ...
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Lt. Lance Wade, a public affairs officer with the36 Canadian Brigade Group, acknowledged in an interview Tuesday that the letter came from an army reserve training session at Camp Aldershot outside Kentville, N.S.
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"It seems relatively innocuous," he said. "Once we have all the facts, we'll be happy to explain a little bit further on why that was chosen." ...

Probably not the first time that a criminal offense was described as innocuous, but with the cluster***k that is the current state of the military justice system his explanation, when/if it comes, may not include what charges are being preferred.

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Aren't things like that normally supposed to say "training material" or something like that on them. From an IA point of view, this is a Black PSYOP which Canada doesn't take part it. I wonder how this was supposed to fit into the larger training picture.

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Aren't things like that normally supposed to say "training material" or something like that on them. From an IA point of view, this is a Black PSYOP which Canada doesn't take part it. I wonder how this was supposed to fit into the larger training picture.

It would only say "training material" if it actually WAS only training material...

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It would only say "training material" if it actually WAS only training material...

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Perhaps this is part of some "insider threat" plot to discredit the CAF. Although the CAF tends to do a pretty good job of discrediting itself. Isn't there some saying about not attributing to malice...?

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http://www.army-armee.forces.gc.ca/en/5-canadian-division/the-halifax-rifles/index.page

Without knowing much about the Army Reserve, I'm kind of surprised that the "Mission Task" description is so direct (perhaps pulled directly from a higher level directive?), without any PAFO polishing to make it seem less intimidating to the general public. People are understandably quite skittish about this sort of thing.

Second, I'm surprised that this exercise was approved as-is given the recent controversy on a very similar topic within CJOC that made national news. It's not difficult to develop a basic exercise scenario with fictional geographic locations and geopolitical entities to avoid any confusion should some of the material make it to an unintended audience.

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