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Offline Enzo

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Re: US Military recruiting in Canada
« Reply #25 on: January 02, 2004, 04:35:00 »
R41 - We‘re going in circles here. I am currently only pursuing the CF re: employment. I am personally not pursuing any employment with another military. I‘ve discussed my situation in the past, you can look it up. Basics are, injured while in the Infantry. After surgery, I opted to get out to heal. I thought I‘d be out for 6-12 months. I was mistaken. Although I had an appropriate suitability upon release, I‘ve since been found medically unfit due to that injury. I‘ve repeatedly proven to the doctors that I am fit and CFRC Borden continues to hold up my application with beauracracy. It sucks. I‘m p/o‘d which is part of the reason I vent here. With luck, I should have this sorted out this month, I‘m trying to be optimistic.

As for your "cool kit" comment. As I said, you do not know me. I base my choice for a lifestyle upon my desires, aptitude, qualifications and skills. Not movies, video games or books. When I was in, I earned some respect. I‘ve noticed that doesn‘t count anymore (see: CFRC Borden).

The tone of this post was originally about the US openly recruiting Canadian citizens for US service in Canada. It was a surprise for some. Comparisons of "us vs. them" came to light. I thought to balance that out. I feel the bigger issues are why Canadians looking for a career with the military would feel that serving in the US would be preferable to serving here. There are many theories; political support, appropriate financing and accountability aren‘t a poor place to begin. For the individual, who can say. Maybe it is the lure of the equipment and the percieved support. Start a survey.

For the last time, I prefer to remain in Canada as this is my home. I returned from abroad last February and it‘s good to be home. I‘ve worked in a few countries and I‘ve no desire to leave. Especially the US, I prefer our freedoms. That is only my opinion, my desire and my intent.

If you choose to equate this with a gun fetish and an ignorant lust for violence without repercussion, then that‘s your perogative.

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Re: US Military recruiting in Canada
« Reply #26 on: January 03, 2004, 06:22:00 »
I have anger management issues combined with insomnia. Makes for an interesting read eh.  :D

As for pay, haven‘t said anything on that yet, but if I made life decisions based on a paycheque, I‘d be doing so much better financially.

I wouldn‘t mind a Ferrari though?
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Re: US Military recruiting in Canada
« Reply #27 on: January 03, 2004, 11:21:00 »
Wow, "MAJ" S_Baker.. I find it interesting that you feel it necessary to come onto a canadian army forum and blanket state how you make more than a CDN officer... as if /you/ have the facts, without even providing any of your own.

Enzo.. I can appreciate your situation, and you have raised several valid arguments.

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Re: US Military recruiting in Canada
« Reply #28 on: January 03, 2004, 11:22:00 »
Each military has its own pros and cons. If you wish to join because you want to be frequently deploymed overseas, see combat, have all the newest hi-tech toys and generally have a large amount and variety of resources at your disposal, by all means join the US military. If you think that the military should be tool for helping people and keeping the peace, not waging wars, join the Canadian army, you‘ll have just as much fun training but you won‘t see much combat. I would join the USMC if I could, but only as an officer and getting a citizenship is quite a hassle.

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Re: US Military recruiting in Canada
« Reply #29 on: January 03, 2004, 13:31:00 »
Major,

With that kind of pay you should be able to afford a Beemer atleast.  :D  

By the way, what is your trade, i missed it earlier in the forum.

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Re: US Military recruiting in Canada
« Reply #30 on: January 03, 2004, 14:20:00 »
Yeah.. but taking orders from Bush? I suppose I‘d demand all that pay.. :-)

Joking... ok, well not really, but then I didn‘t vote for him, and its not my country, so I suppose I don‘t really have a say on who governs the US...

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Re: US Military recruiting in Canada
« Reply #31 on: January 03, 2004, 15:51:00 »
It‘s not really how much you make, but what you do with it I suppose. I‘m a starving student and yet I somehow managed to acquire my "dream" car a few years back (ok, I have a ‘89 Saab 900 Sport, I suppose I don‘t have great dreams eh  :D ) But it works for me. If I were to make some serious coin, I‘d consider getting some new rims.

As for the pay, I can see both of the Major‘s points. Lower taxes and that pay scale sound fine from a purely financial incentive. But as East side mentioned, what do you want to do? Think about that before you begin the paperwork to join the US. All sounds fine on paper, but working abroad can be a real test unless you‘re prepared to make it a permanent situation.
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Re: US Military recruiting in Canada
« Reply #32 on: January 09, 2004, 16:14:00 »
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[qb] There must be a reason your denied?
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With all due respect how much have you worked in Recruiting?  What Enzo has pointed out is sometimes true.  There are many cases that pers are denied the needed medical category because the MO’s reviewing their file lack the specialization needed in that area.  The MOs that have specialized training are rarely utilized by the military because they are needed to fill the role of an MO in some CFB.

Enzo,
Have you tried going to a Civi MD specialist?  Getting one onside with you would help out your case, but in the end it‘s up to the MO in Borden.  Anyways good luck to you, I know what you are trying to say about leaving not being your first choice.  Hope you get to wear your green flag again.
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Re: US Military recruiting in Canada
« Reply #33 on: January 09, 2004, 21:35:00 »
Duff, I‘ve been to 3. Each were a step up in specialization from the one before (I.e. Sports Medicine/Muscle Specialist/Back Specialist) and they passed me without issue each time. Wished me good luck and passed me the signed papers. I‘ve also had no difficulty in passing my commercial aviation and dive medicals independently of the CFRC process (of which they are aware).

The only dissenting opinion out of the bunch was a GP who I went to when I first got out and he did my first series of paperwork for the CFRC. I should have known when he asked "why I was wasting my time with the CF." He asked me if I ever got any discomfort in my back, at the time I said,"I get the odd twinge." He wrote in one section, "experiences mild lower back pain." I asked if he should have written that as I didn‘t agree. He said that he was only covering himself and that it wouldn‘t be a problem. That‘s what the CFRC has focused on. Each time they tell me to go to another specialist which I have (3) and now they want me to go to an orthopaedic surgeon at great expense to me $1300-1600. Bearing in mind an ortho wouldn‘t see me as he "didn‘t feel that he was qualified to examine me for the CF as he specializes in the skeletal system and my injury was soft tissue." Told me to go to a Physiatrist (see. doctor of the body). CFRC told me to go to a physiatrist. I‘ve been to 3. I‘m on a merry go round, so now I have the OM Involved (they feel that there is impropriety here, but as I am no longer in the CF, they need me to continue the fight and keep them informed??) and an MP has written a strongly worded letter to the CDS & Min of D on my behalf. Awaiting the response to that which is due any day now.

And you‘re up to speed. Cheers...
"Most people would rather analyse risks than take them"

Wallace Kaufman