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Sigh someone got their knickers in a knot for someone proclaiming exactly what they are.

https://nsadvocate.org/2019/06/05/news-brief-halifax-navy-sailor-with-islamophobic-tattoo-now-being-investigated/

Mod edit -- Just added a bit to the title to make it clearer.
« Last Edit: June 06, 2019, 07:25:40 by milnews.ca »

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Re: Meanwhile back at the perpetually offended tent
« Reply #1 on: June 05, 2019, 21:46:09 »
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Google that term and search results are full of white supremacist and Islamophobic memes.

Okay.

Noun
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1: one who is not a Christian or who opposes Christianity

2a: an unbeliever with respect to a particular religion

b: one who acknowledges no religious belief

3: a disbeliever in something specified or understood


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1: not holding the faith of a given religionEither they must come to terms with surrounding infidel tribes or they must conquer the hinterland.— Daniel J. Boorstinthe infidel nations

2: opposing or traitorous to a given religion


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Re: Meanwhile back at the perpetually offended tent
« Reply #3 on: June 05, 2019, 22:28:20 »
Infidel vs Canadian Infidels.

Am I missing the word Canadian or even a maple leaf in that tattoo?

I'll tell you right now, there's alot of caf members with an "infidel" tattoo.
And Tshirts, and bumper stickers, and back window stickers.


Should we ban proud to be Canadian tattoos?  ::)
« Last Edit: June 06, 2019, 06:46:43 by Jarnhamar »
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Re: Meanwhile back at the perpetually offended tent
« Reply #4 on: June 05, 2019, 22:42:18 »
Infidel vs Canadian Infidels.

Am I missing the word Canadian or even a maple leaf in that tattoo?

I'll tell you right now, there's alot of caf members with an "infidel" tattoo.
And Tshirts, and bumper stickers, and back window stickers.


Should be ban proud to be Canadian tattoos?  ::)

I assume that, as we speak, there are legal defence teams scanning the internet for photos of Senior Officers in the CAF wearing the (almost) ubiquitous 'Infidel' morale patch on their combat uniforms...
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Re: Meanwhile back at the perpetually offended tent
« Reply #5 on: June 05, 2019, 23:12:23 »
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Google that term and search results are full of white supremacist and Islamophobic memes.

Infidel vs Canadian Infidels.

Okay.

Canadian infidels
https://www.google.com/search?q=infidel&source=lnms&tbm=isch&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwiBz__L8NPiAhUFnlkKHcp8A6AQ_AUIECgB&biw=1280&bih=641
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Re: Meanwhile back at the perpetually offended tent
« Reply #6 on: June 06, 2019, 06:32:23 »
You forgot all the people that THIS guy calls infidels! :

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GBvfiCdk-jc

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Re: Meanwhile back at the perpetually offended tent
« Reply #7 on: June 06, 2019, 06:48:40 »
I assume that, as we speak, there are legal defence teams scanning the internet for photos of Senior Officers in the CAF wearing the (almost) ubiquitous 'Infidel' morale patch on their combat uniforms...

And the next CANFORGEN coming up.
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Re: Meanwhile back at the perpetually offended tent
« Reply #8 on: June 06, 2019, 07:24:20 »
Since this isn't touching on a specific op, just moved this into a more general military news thread.

Please continue, folks ...

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... and, for the record, here's an image of the tattoo in question for reference, in case it disappears elsewhere.
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Re: Meanwhile back at the perpetually offended tent
« Reply #10 on: June 06, 2019, 08:18:03 »
And the next CANFORGEN coming up.

TATFORGEN  :nod:
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That is the Tattoo they are complaining about?

 :rofl:

On another note, I've been rewatching the Sopranos which is widely considered a masterpiece and one of the greatest TV series of all time.  With the militant political correctness that exists today, would that show even be able to be made today?

Interesting commentary as well from Dan Houser (the creator of the GTA video game series):

https://m.ca.ign.com/articles/2018/10/24/dan-houser-thankful-not-to-be-releasing-grand-theft-auto-6-right-now

The prospects of a new GTA being released appear increasingly unlikely as Houser doesn't think he can satirize the game with today's political climate.  GTA 5 was the number three selling video game of all time behind only Tetris and Minecraft.

We are living in a very strange time of censorship and are becoming less free as a society. 

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But "we're" the ones allowing it.....
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Just wait until some special group decides that our GCS-SWA medals represent a war of racism, and colonial oppression, then demands take them off lol

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Just wait until some special group decides that our GCS-SWA medals represent a war of racism, and colonial oppression, then demands take them off lol


That may have to be my release date

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We then identified the sailor and the chain of command is now investigating,” says Major Mark Gough, Senior Public Affairs Officer, Maritime Forces Atlantic Headquarters.

Why the need for an investigation?





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If I was a civilian in a Nova Scotia Tim Hortons just itching to cry about something and seen a sailor with a infidel tatoo my first thought would be why the hell doesn't Canada have an aircraft carrier and fancy carrier group. Or even just some cruisers and destroyers to really kick *** on the high seas.
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Why the need for an investigation?


Because it's easier then leading?? :whistle:
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Why the need for an investigation?

Because someone has to hang.
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Because it's easier then leading?? :whistle:

It's easier than having the entire CAF accused of wrongthink, resulting in Deschamps V2.0.

With a CAF comprised maily of white males I'm sure you can imagine how that would work out...

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Flipping back to the 1995 version of the dress instructions...

"9. Body Tattoos and Body-Piercing.
Members shall not acquire visible tattoos that could
be deemed to be offensive (e.g., pornographic,
blasphemous, racist) or otherwise reflect discredit on
the CF."

That paragraph has continued pretty much identically since then. You'd have to be kinda dumb to think than an 'Infidel' tattoo in the shape of a rifle isn't going to cross that threshold.

Amidst all the whining about SJWs, snowflakes, and the perpetually offended and so on and so forth, has individual accountability and common sense stopped being a thing in the CAF?
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The current one (dated 2017-12-15) says:

9.Body Tattoos and Body-Piercing. As of September 26th, 2012, members are not to acquire any tattoos that are visible on the head, face or ears. Additionally, members shall not acquire tattoos that are visible either in military uniform or in civilian clothing that could be deemed to be offensive (e.g., pornographic, blasphemous, racist or containing vulgar language or design) or otherwise reflect discredit on the CAF.
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The current one (dated 2017-12-15) says:

9.Body Tattoos and Body-Piercing. As of September 26th, 2012, members are not to acquire any tattoos that are visible on the head, face or ears. Additionally, members shall not acquire tattoos that are visible either in military uniform or in civilian clothing that could be deemed to be offensive (e.g., pornographic, blasphemous, racist or containing vulgar language or design) or otherwise reflect discredit on the CAF.

Yup... So the only real difference is 'visible in uniform'... Which this was.
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For reference to the discussion,

Tattoo Thread - including current policy [MERGED]
https://navy.ca/forums/index.php?topic=869.575
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"deemed to be"   Who doesn't love being put into a Orwellian scenario??

Something is offensive or it isn't,  if it takes debate to figure it out then it isn't, it's simple opinion.
99.9 % of us would spot, and agree, on offensive with zero debate whatsoever.


And since I think every tattoo put on human skin is offensive I got a lot of ratting out to do ..... ;D
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