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Re: The US Presidency 2018
« Reply #50 on: May 11, 2018, 13:57:46 »
Don't forget the cash that Obama gave to Iran which probably went to their war in Yemen and Syria.

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Re: The US Presidency 2018
« Reply #51 on: May 11, 2018, 14:34:15 »
Don't forget the cash that Obama gave to Iran which probably went to their war in Yemen and Syria.

I don't recall that Obama ever "gave" cash to Iran. I do recall that in the deal, sanctions were lifted which allowed Iran to again access their own sums of money which had been frozen and that there was a negotiated settlement whereby the US returned a certain sum of money that Iran had paid to the US for military equipment that it bought from them and the US had never delivered.

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Re: The US Presidency 2018
« Reply #53 on: May 27, 2018, 13:32:41 »
The current "spy" scandal in the United States may be far larger than the iconic "Watergate" (which has given its name to every scandal since). This article in American Thinker has lots of timeline details, including a timeline showing the Obama administration using private contractors to access raw FISA data as far back as 2015. This end run around FISA puts the use of FISA warrants against members of the Trump campaign team and using questionable information to secure FISA warrants in some more context.

The article also goes through other actions of the Obama Administration. If this were a movie, it would not be "All the Presidents Man" but rather something like the MCU series, with an "Infinity war" like ending in the Obama White House.

The end result is still unknown, but one thing seems clear: if high ranking public officials, Administration members and bureaucrats are being unmasked in this scandal and are not being tried and put in prison, then there will be a serious breakdown in the public trust of American institutions, which can only accelerate the unravelling of American's social capital and destruction of a high trust society.

https://www.americanthinker.com/articles/2018/05/the_great_unmasking.html
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Re: The US Presidency 2018
« Reply #54 on: June 10, 2018, 09:11:41 »
With Trump and Kim now in Singapore, the Guardian provides a perspective on how it may play out (and how it will likely be reported, regardless).

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Re: The US Presidency 2018
« Reply #55 on: June 10, 2018, 09:30:52 »
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The dangers are clear. The North Koreans will play Trump. They’ve reportedly studied The Art of the Deal, learning how to manipulate him and his ego:

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Re: The US Presidency 2018
« Reply #56 on: June 10, 2018, 11:04:21 »
With Trump and Kim now in Singapore, the Guardian provides a perspective on how it may play out (and how it will likely be reported, regardless).

An interesting perspective.
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Re: The US Presidency 2018
« Reply #57 on: June 10, 2018, 14:59:45 »
I suppose it's easy to attribute calm and non-partisan deliberation to the Armed Services Committee when viewed through the lens of Adm Jackson's promotion nomination alone.  However, when looking at the list of nominations still sitting in committee suddenly Adm Jackson's case does not seem that delayed when there are some nominations to general or flag rank that were submitted back in March 2017.

Senator Tester is accused of making the allegations against Dr Jackson. Tester is facing a tough re-election fight.We shall see if his voters turn him out. 8)

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Re: The US Presidency 2018
« Reply #58 on: June 10, 2018, 15:12:30 »
Senator Tester is accused of making the allegations against Dr Jackson.

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Sen. Johnny Isakson (Ga.), the Republican chairman of the Senate Veterans' Affairs Committee, does not “have a problem” with how misconduct allegations against Navy Rear Adm. Ronny Jackson were handled, his office said Saturday.

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Re: The US Presidency 2018
« Reply #59 on: June 12, 2018, 18:44:31 »
I find it interesting that immediately after the Singapore US/NK summit that Fox news is not headling anything about the summit's outcome.

The articles headlined include Rosenstein's threats to subpoena records of a Republican led House committee; CNN's Acosta shouting questions during the signing ceremony; Trump's tweet regarding Di Niro. The only on-point article seems to be on from a former CIA staffer on Korea who points out that the signed document does not necessarily state that the North will de-nuclearize.

Puzzling.

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Re: The US Presidency 2018
« Reply #60 on: June 13, 2018, 08:28:29 »
Wargames can be reinstated at any time.The North has agreed to helping to repatriate soldiers that were killed during the war.
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Re: The US Presidency 2018
« Reply #61 on: June 13, 2018, 10:36:09 »
I don't recall that Obama ever "gave" cash to Iran. I do recall that in the deal, sanctions were lifted which allowed Iran to again access their own sums of money which had been frozen and that there was a negotiated settlement whereby the US returned a certain sum of money that Iran had paid to the US for military equipment that it bought from them and the US had never delivered.

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Regardless of the source, that cash was released and was used to prop up a regime that is the sworn enemy of the US and it's pretty clear a good chunk of it went Iranian Revolutionary Guard and it's proxies. Particularly as there have been internal protests that none of those funds were apparently used to fix domestic issues.

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Re: The US Presidency 2018
« Reply #62 on: June 13, 2018, 12:36:43 »
Regardless of the source, that cash was released and was used to prop up a regime that is the sworn enemy of the US and it's pretty clear a good chunk of it went Iranian Revolutionary Guard and it's proxies. Particularly as there have been internal protests that none of those funds were apparently used to fix domestic issues.

So what?  The money belonged to Iran and could be used as decided by the government of Iran.  As much as we may object to the internal domestic issues of Iran and its foreign policies, we (nor the American government, nor many Iranian citizens for that matter) have a vote in how that country operates.  After all the accounting, juggling the books and making legally binding (as per American courts) reparations to injured parties, the US government returned the assets that they seized froze nearly forty years previous.  The rest is just political bluster.
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Re: The US Presidency 2018
« Reply #63 on: June 13, 2018, 16:20:39 »
The left usually rant about denuclearization.Instead its about giving in on war games. ;D

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Re: The US Presidency 2018
« Reply #64 on: June 13, 2018, 16:55:26 »
The left usually rant about denuclearization.Instead its about giving in on war games. ;D

Seen that. It's actually pretty funny. Trump is not a nice person because he's  not negotiating with Korea. Then when he successfully negotiates with Korea he's not a nice person because he canceled wargames. Or my favourite he's a horrible negotiator because he  treated their leader like an equal. I crap you not.

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Re: The US Presidency 2018
« Reply #65 on: June 13, 2018, 17:46:40 »
"There is no longer a Nuclear Threat from North Korea."
https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/1006837823469735936

That's wonderful news.
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Re: The US Presidency 2018
« Reply #66 on: June 14, 2018, 14:03:35 »
So what?  The money belonged to Iran and could be used as decided by the government of Iran.  As much as we may object to the internal domestic issues of Iran and its foreign policies, we (nor the American government, nor many Iranian citizens for that matter) have a vote in how that country operates.  After all the accounting, juggling the books and making legally binding (as per American courts) reparations to injured parties, the US government returned the assets that they seized froze nearly forty years previous.  The rest is just political bluster.

Just as sanctions were having a real effect on the regime and their proxies. That cash saved the regime and guaranteed likely another decade plus of oppression of the Iranian people by the Revolutionary Guard and Clerics. Not to mention keeping their proxies supplied with arms and cash. The citizens of Iran will never benefit from that money.

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Re: The US Presidency 2018
« Reply #67 on: June 22, 2018, 22:27:05 »
Changing tack a bit:

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Trump attacked the entire political class, including all political factions of both parties, the immense corruption in American government, the bias of the national media, and the ludicrous interventions of Hollywood airheads masquerading as the political conscience of the nation. Trump called for the reassertion of the American national interest and the public sensed this. An annual trade deficit of $865 billion could not be tolerated. Nor could the steady inflow of 500,000 to a million illiterate migrants a year from Central America and Mexico, or a Western Alliance where the United States paid most of the bill for everyone, guaranteed everyone’s national security, and got little but carping, whining and hypocrisy from its so-called allies. Germany has been the greatest power in Europe since Bismarck unified it in 1871. Chancellor Angela Merkel could have wielded enormous power on the continent, as a kind of Bismarck-in-drag, if you will, but instead she spends almost nothing on defence, appeases Russia in Ukraine while buying its natural gas, and has admirably but unwisely, admitted over a million refugees from the Middle East and Africa in the past three years.

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Re: The US Presidency 2018
« Reply #68 on: June 23, 2018, 10:48:41 »
Agree with Infanteer's post. President Trump has clearly decided the status quo is no longer working (or even relevant, for the most part) and is working to upend it in favour of a newer and more "balanced" system (balance for America may not equal "balance" for the rest of the world).

The G-7 summit is a great example of that actually. President Trump has serious concerns about nations using trade agreements to do end runs around US concerns (such as using cheap Chinese steel for imports then sent to America), the size of the trade deficit America is running and keeping the American economy going long term. His offer was actually dropping tariffs and subsidies within the trade block, but the response can be characterized by a breakfast meeting on how Gender issues affect free trade. In effect the G-7 leadership showed their concern about America's concerns.

The introduction of heavy tariffs by the US then made the status quo untenable, and early on it already has the German car industry making overtures, which suggests many EU organizations and interest groups are now going to fight the EU over access to the US market. President Trump has laid their interests bare in one fell swoop, and done so publicly, forcing leaders like Trudeau to take public positions right away.

The US now has the high cards, knows people's positions and can tweak whatever rules they like since they have a commanding position in many economic areas, as well as a strong domestic position to negotiate from (what Americans will be happy to say "we should continue to run multi billion trade deficits forever!"). Note this also strengthens his domestic political position as well (Running against the Democrats he can answer the question about trade deficits as a negative to them).

The guy is like a wreaking ball because he needs to be a wreaking ball to break the status quo which no longer is working for what he sees as American interests.
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Re: The US Presidency 2018
« Reply #69 on: June 25, 2018, 09:09:11 »
So...Donald Trump has a point?  ;)

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Negative news is fake news?  :)

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Re: The US Presidency 2018
« Reply #70 on: June 25, 2018, 10:05:34 »
Everyone remember when the President was championing the stock market, and record gains?

The Dow Jones has currently fallen to November levels, effectively wiping out 7 months of growth.

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Re: The US Presidency 2018
« Reply #71 on: June 26, 2018, 00:04:48 »
Good time to buy more index funds.
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Re: The US Presidency 2018
« Reply #72 on: June 26, 2018, 06:16:22 »
Good time to buy more index funds.

Yes and mine are holding strong!  Warren Buffett says every person should own stock in an S&P 500 Indexed Fund. 

I own stock in an S&P 500 Index ETF, the growth over the past 10 years has been impressive, even with recessions and other events.  The market always bounces back and compound interest is a powerful thing!

Everyone remember when the President was championing the stock market, and record gains?

The Dow Jones has currently fallen to November levels, effectively wiping out 7 months of growth.

MAGA.

Not really a big deal, markets appreciate and depreciate all the time.  I don't invest for short term gains though, buying and holding is the name of them game because the market will always bounce back.

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Re: The US Presidency 2018
« Reply #73 on: June 26, 2018, 06:27:08 »
Not a very nice person.

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Maxine Waters Calls For Attacks On Members Of Trump Administration


Already, you have members of your Cabinet that are being booed out of restaurants ... who have protesters taking up at their house, who say, ‘No peace, no sleep! No peace, no sleep!'” Waters continued.

"God is on our side!" Waters declared.

Waters then called for attacks on individual members of the Trump administration, saying, "Let’s make sure we show up wherever we have to show up and if you see anybody from that Cabinet in a restaurant, in a department store, at a gasoline station, you get out and you create a crowd and you push back on them, and you tell them they’re not welcome anymore, anywhere."


https://www.dailywire.com/news/32232/watch-maxine-waters-calls-attacks-members-trump-ryan-saavedra?utm_source=facebook&utm_medium=social&utm_content=062316-news&utm_campaign=benshapiro
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Re: The US Presidency 2018
« Reply #74 on: June 26, 2018, 08:21:17 »
Not a very nice person.

Her comments  were completely inappropriate. Especially for an elected official.

The Dailywire is pushing their narrative a bit too far I think but yes, her comments could be viewed as incitement.   

Unfortunately many people in US politics are leading the way with these types of things...

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