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Re: Tom Hanks may star as WW2 CO of destroyer in "Greyhound" movie
« Reply #50 on: July 13, 2020, 11:50:48 »
That period of time really forced an entire generation to skip what we now think of as 'your early 20's' and jump straight into serious adulthood, FAST. 

They are / were, in my opinion, the Greatest Generation any society has ever produced. Not that they were born that way. But, because of The War.

My father joined the RCN in August 1943 when he was 17.

My uncle joined the RCAF in July 1941 when he was 18. KIA in July 1944 when he was 21.
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Re: Tom Hanks may star as WW2 CO of destroyer in "Greyhound" movie
« Reply #51 on: July 13, 2020, 13:46:43 »
Not least of their accomplishments after they arrived home was the baby boom, aka making up for lost time.

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Re: Tom Hanks may star as WW2 CO of destroyer in "Greyhound" movie
« Reply #52 on: July 13, 2020, 22:18:24 »
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Re: Tom Hanks may star as WW2 CO of destroyer in "Greyhound" movie
« Reply #53 on: July 14, 2020, 04:02:35 »
It was a pretty good movie.
That was pretty quick warfare (as opposed to Awfully Slow Warfare) and sinking 3 subs in 1942 is absolutely in alien space bat territory.

But they got the nuances right so that the laypeople are not totally confused and the naval people are not totally rolling their eyes. In my mind Tom Hanks and crew hit this target as close as possible.

I know that this is not in any way possible, but wouldn't it be nice if there was a movie done about Athabaskan and Haida and their actions in the English Channel prior to D-Day. Lots of action and heartache and would show Canadians that it wasn't only the Americans who won WWII.

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One more thing about Greyhound, at the end they had the surviving escorts heading to Londonderry in a line abreast formation. Shawinigan was the farthest out and there is no way that a Corvette could maintain any sort of speed with a Fletcher. But it was a good visual, too bad we couldn't see battle flags! ;D

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Re: Tom Hanks may star as WW2 CO of destroyer in "Greyhound" movie
« Reply #54 on: July 14, 2020, 04:51:41 »
This is a good little article about it.

Tom Hanks' Greyhound Is a Quietly Thrilling War Drama That's Not Just for Dads

https://time.com/5865255/greyhound-review-tom-hanks/

The trailer didn’t do it justice. I really enjoyed it. I thought it had a great balance of realistic/technical aspects vs the story and emotional sentiments—One element didn’t overpower another. The CGI was a lot better than I was anticipating too.

I like Hanks. He’s good at portraying strong and knowledgeable, yet humble characters who aren’t void of humanity and values, regardless of what’s at stake.

(I found myself thinking about what would be worse—being in a freezing/frozen snow covered trench, or standing on a frozen ice-covered deck with freezing water being splashed in one’s face. The Army and Navy folk will have to weigh in. I haven’t experienced either, and neither one seems appealing. Go Airforce ;) )



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Re: Tom Hanks may star as WW2 CO of destroyer in "Greyhound" movie
« Reply #55 on: July 14, 2020, 06:18:42 »
(I found myself thinking about what would be worse—being in a freezing/frozen snow covered trench, or standing on a frozen ice-covered deck with freezing water being splashed in one’s face. The Army and Navy folk will have to weigh in. I haven’t experienced either, and neither one seems appealing. Go Airforce ;) )

The RCAF didn't have it easy either. The pitiful prospects of surviving a tour in Bomber Command were only matched in hazard on either side by the German U-boat crews.

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Re: Tom Hanks may star as WW2 CO of destroyer in "Greyhound" movie
« Reply #56 on: July 14, 2020, 06:37:45 »
The RCAF didn't have it easy either. The pitiful prospects of surviving a tour in Bomber Command were only matched in hazard on either side by the German U-boat crews.

From wiki: 
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Bomber Command aircrews suffered a high casualty rate: of a total of 125,000 aircrew, 57,205 were killed (a 46 percent death rate), a further 8,403 were wounded in action and 9,838 became prisoners of war. Therefore, a total of 75,446 airmen (60 percent of operational airmen) were killed, wounded or taken prisoner.[2]

The same folks who produced Band of Brothers, The Pacific, and Greyhound are working on Masters of the Air, a miniseries about the US 8th Air Force (specifically the 100th Bombardment Group).  I have pretty high hopes for it.

What this movie didn't really mention (or I missed it) was the total convoy sailing time.  The movie covers about 3 days in the Pit, but an HX convoy from Halifax to Liverpool would take 15 days.  When they shifted to New York to Liverpool during the timeframe of Greyhound, it would have been longer.
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Re: Tom Hanks may star as WW2 CO of destroyer in "Greyhound" movie
« Reply #57 on: July 14, 2020, 09:27:13 »
This is a good little article about it.

Tom Hanks' Greyhound Is a Quietly Thrilling War Drama That's Not Just for Dads

https://time.com/5865255/greyhound-review-tom-hanks/

The trailer didn’t do it justice. I really enjoyed it. I thought it had a great balance of realistic/technical aspects vs the story and emotional sentiments—One element didn’t overpower another. The CGI was a lot better than I was anticipating too.

I like Hanks. He’s good at portraying strong and knowledgeable, yet humble characters who aren’t void of humanity and values, regardless of what’s at stake.

(I found myself thinking about what would be worse—being in a freezing/frozen snow covered trench, or standing on a frozen ice-covered deck with freezing water being splashed in one’s face. The Army and Navy folk will have to weigh in. I haven’t experienced either, and neither one seems appealing. Go Airforce ;) )

If you get it right, a trench can be fairly comfy.... depending on what the enemy's raining down on you at the time, of course :)
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Re: Tom Hanks may star as WW2 CO of destroyer in "Greyhound" movie
« Reply #58 on: July 15, 2020, 15:25:28 »
I was reading on another board And it was told that the movie makers hired a Canadian firm to help with the CGI and that firm scanned the HMCS Sackville, HMCS Haida and the ORP Błyskawica for the movie.  I wish I had a link. 

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Re: Tom Hanks may star as WW2 CO of destroyer in "Greyhound" movie
« Reply #59 on: July 15, 2020, 15:49:38 »
This is a good little article about it.

Tom Hanks' Greyhound Is a Quietly Thrilling War Drama That's Not Just for Dads

https://time.com/5865255/greyhound-review-tom-hanks/

The trailer didn’t do it justice. I really enjoyed it. I thought it had a great balance of realistic/technical aspects vs the story and emotional sentiments—One element didn’t overpower another. The CGI was a lot better than I was anticipating too.

I like Hanks. He’s good at portraying strong and knowledgeable, yet humble characters who aren’t void of humanity and values, regardless of what’s at stake.

(I found myself thinking about what would be worse—being in a freezing/frozen snow covered trench, or standing on a frozen ice-covered deck with freezing water being splashed in one’s face. The Army and Navy folk will have to weigh in. I haven’t experienced either, and neither one seems appealing. Go Airforce ;) )


I'd say standing on a freezing deck, with freezing water splashing in your face.  Cold as hell, sure -- but at least you can go back inside the ship eventually.  Trench?  Hope you enjoy the suck!   ;)
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Re: Tom Hanks may star as WW2 CO of destroyer in "Greyhound" movie
« Reply #60 on: July 15, 2020, 16:02:26 »

  Trench?  Hope you enjoy the suck!   ;)

Embrace it because without "the suck", further progression is thwarted.
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Re: Tom Hanks may star as WW2 CO of destroyer in "Greyhound" movie
« Reply #61 on: July 24, 2020, 00:22:25 »
Anybody ever see this movie? Is it available online somewhere? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Corvette_K-225
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Re: Tom Hanks may star as WW2 CO of destroyer in "Greyhound" movie
« Reply #63 on: July 24, 2020, 07:13:40 »
This is a good little article about it.

Tom Hanks' Greyhound Is a Quietly Thrilling War Drama That's Not Just for Dads

https://time.com/5865255/greyhound-review-tom-hanks/

The trailer didn’t do it justice. I really enjoyed it. I thought it had a great balance of realistic/technical aspects vs the story and emotional sentiments—One element didn’t overpower another. The CGI was a lot better than I was anticipating too.

I like Hanks. He’s good at portraying strong and knowledgeable, yet humble characters who aren’t void of humanity and values, regardless of what’s at stake.

(I found myself thinking about what would be worse—being in a freezing/frozen snow covered trench, or standing on a frozen ice-covered deck with freezing water being splashed in one’s face. The Army and Navy folk will have to weigh in. I haven’t experienced either, and neither one seems appealing. Go Airforce ;) )

I have done both field and lots and lots of sea time.  They both have their "things".  Comparing them wouldnt do either justice IMHO.
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Re: Tom Hanks may star as WW2 CO of destroyer in "Greyhound" movie
« Reply #64 on: July 24, 2020, 07:29:04 »
Anybody ever see this movie? Is it available online somewhere? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Corvette_K-225
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I've seen it on the Turner Classic Movies cable channel.

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Re: Tom Hanks may star as WW2 CO of destroyer in "Greyhound" movie
« Reply #65 on: July 25, 2020, 16:18:19 »
I watched 'Greyhound' the other day.  I highly recommend.

From a technical perspective, there is much to commend.  It looked (to me) like they got most things right in terms of how the ship would operate, as well as the confusion, fatigue, burden of command, etc. I actually watched it a second time to really look closely at these items. 

I did most of my training on the old steamers.  They were just a short evolutionary step ahead of what is shown in Greyhound.  This film put me right back there on those ships. 

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Re: Tom Hanks may star as WW2 CO of destroyer in "Greyhound" movie
« Reply #66 on: July 27, 2020, 11:28:01 »
I watched 'Greyhound' the other day.  I highly recommend.

From a technical perspective, there is much to commend.  It looked (to me) like they got most things right in terms of how the ship would operate, as well as the confusion, fatigue, burden of command, etc. I actually watched it a second time to really look closely at these items. 

I did most of my training on the old steamers.  They were just a short evolutionary step ahead of what is shown in Greyhound.  This film put me right back there on those ships.

It's good to see someone with your experience recommending the movie, I certainly enjoyed it but I'm no expert in that history; I've noticed in a lot of comments sections elsewhere a lot of Navy history dilettante's sound like this guy

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Re: Tom Hanks may star as WW2 CO of destroyer in "Greyhound" movie
« Reply #67 on: July 29, 2020, 20:46:44 »
Who had the best submarines in WW2?
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Re: Tom Hanks may star as WW2 CO of destroyer in "Greyhound" movie
« Reply #68 on: July 29, 2020, 21:43:24 »
Who had the best submarines in WW2?

That depends alot on the time frame and the role being played.

Early WW2 German UBoats were nothing to write home about, technically or from a crew comfort POV. By the end of the war, the type 21 was a technical marvel. Early war Japanese submarines were much bigger and better than US subs and their torpedoes were much better. By the end of the war, US subs featured radar, air conditioning and at least acceptable torpedoes. Russian submarines were awful, but still managed to sink German shipping; the Italians took a big bite out of the RN Med Fleet.

So...it depends.

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Re: Tom Hanks may star as WW2 CO of destroyer in "Greyhound" movie
« Reply #69 on: July 29, 2020, 23:59:15 »
Who had the best submarines in WW2?

The Allied submarine campaign in the Pacific led largely by the US was, arguably, the most successful of its kind during WW2 and was helped considerably by rapid improvements in technology and sub/torpedo design. It remains largely unacknowledged, however, because : the Silent Service:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Allied_submarines_in_the_Pacific_War
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