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Re: VAC Return to Lifetime Pensions Discussion
« Reply #375 on: January 07, 2019, 08:49:54 »
Expect monthly only. If there's a change that allows lump sum then all the better. Most of the evidence including what's written on VACs site has only said monthly. There has been nothing nowhere saying a choice except for new claims going forward and probably some misinformed VAC employees.
I've called and sent a few queries through my vac and every time the answer is that it could be taken as lump sum.This is more than a few misinformed employees

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Re: VAC Return to Lifetime Pensions Discussion
« Reply #376 on: January 07, 2019, 11:15:26 »
MONTHLY only applies to claims filed after april 2019....same as when we had to wait for our "top up"...2019 is a new budget....

That's the way I personally interpret it for "new" files anyway,the older claims are able to request one or the other.I see the doing away with the lump sum as a way to spread out the "pain" if you will and prevent huge yearly costs to VAC...whatever...another crock od S*&T brought to you by the government who was going to save the world...
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Re: VAC Return to Lifetime Pensions Discussion
« Reply #377 on: January 07, 2019, 11:25:13 »
The above has always been my understanding of the benefits. Although not very clear it's also written the same on VACs Q&A page.

The examples on the Q&A page of vets receiving 20% 40% and 100% lump sums and then show what they receive for a monthly pension have been removed. Maybe VAC is making the examples more clear?

It is still there,
http://www.veterans.gc.ca/eng/services/pension-for-life#wellbeing_act_block
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Re: VAC Return to Lifetime Pensions Discussion
« Reply #378 on: January 07, 2019, 11:29:21 »
I've called and sent a few queries through my vac and every time the answer is that it could be taken as lump sum.This is more than a few misinformed employees

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I would agree, as I am trying to sort out my Departmental review for hearing, I asked the member on the phone, she said ALL will have the option for Lump Sums,
I said that's funny, MY CM told me two weeks ago those at 100% wont be eligible and would only receive a monthly addition. (To be fair, my CM has told me she has avoided the PFL training because they dont have a clue whats going on)

But, Saying that, in the next two months we should all be receiving notices of whats happening, according to their timeline.
Unless they use the same company that built the Pheonix system for payouts........

Its going to be interesting in this thread as those letters come in.


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Re: VAC Return to Lifetime Pensions Discussion
« Reply #379 on: January 07, 2019, 15:07:31 »
It is still there,
http://www.veterans.gc.ca/eng/services/pension-for-life#wellbeing_act_block

The day I posted that it was taken down and brought back the next day.

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Re: VAC Return to Lifetime Pensions Discussion
« Reply #380 on: January 07, 2019, 16:53:46 »
Anyone see the Post on FB,
It says,
"Pension for Life will come into effect soon. If you receive a Career Impact Allowance, you will get a phone call from a Veterans Affairs Canada before 1 April 2019. We’ll discuss how the transition to the Additional Pain and Suffering Compensation will work for you and answer any questions you may have. Read more about the new benefit here: http://ow.ly/n5ID30ndS2q"

So we may have more information in the coming months,
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Re: VAC Return to Lifetime Pensions Discussion
« Reply #381 on: January 07, 2019, 18:53:52 »
Anyone see the Post on FB,
It says,
"Pension for Life will come into effect soon. If you receive a Career Impact Allowance, you will get a phone call from a Veterans Affairs Canada before 1 April 2019. We’ll discuss how the transition to the Additional Pain and Suffering Compensation will work for you and answer any questions you may have. Read more about the new benefit here: http://ow.ly/n5ID30ndS2q"

So we may have more information in the coming months,

So the one benefit that is the simplest is the one there going to call people about? I have a feeling most are going to be like ya that's great but what about the pension part?


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Re: VAC Return to Lifetime Pensions Discussion
« Reply #382 on: January 07, 2019, 20:10:02 »
So the one benefit that is the simplest is the one there going to call people about? I have a feeling most are going to be like ya that's great but what about the pension part?

I’m not sure it’s the simplest one odd enough. It seems to be the most misunderstood, even by VAC personnel.

I think they are going to get bombarded with questions about what people really want to know, and to be safe won’t answer, they will pawn it off on another member to call people back

, I won’t be 100% surprised if they make it a lump sum on some vote buying scheme for the Liberals.
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Re: VAC Return to Lifetime Pensions Discussion
« Reply #383 on: January 07, 2019, 21:55:00 »
If you haven't seen Bird box might not make much sense.

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Re: VAC Return to Lifetime Pensions Discussion
« Reply #384 on: January 08, 2019, 11:10:47 »
If you haven't seen Bird box might not make much sense.

Makes total sense.....
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Re: VAC Return to Lifetime Pensions Discussion
« Reply #385 on: January 10, 2019, 16:43:35 »
Fresh off the VAC FB Page

If you have already received a DA, you may receive an additional monthly amount payment through Pension for Life. We will be sending out notices through My VAC Account and letters by mail to Veterans starting January 15th.

More information: http://ow.ly/s5Aq30ngDoL
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Re: VAC Return to Lifetime Pensions Discussion
« Reply #386 on: January 12, 2019, 12:31:13 »
Looks like no lump sum. There's going to be a lot of complaining.

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Re: VAC Return to Lifetime Pensions Discussion
« Reply #387 on: January 12, 2019, 16:00:07 »
Looks like no lump sum. There's going to be a lot of complaining.

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If only people read what was on VACs site where it said monthly. I get some misinformed VAC employees lead some astray but there was never any mention of a lump sum for those that already received a DA in writing.

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Re: VAC Return to Lifetime Pensions Discussion
« Reply #388 on: January 12, 2019, 19:33:57 »
Because I asked 4 different times and every time the answer was the lump sum would be an option and also you would think they won't be so daft to degrade people by paying them 15 or 30$ a month and have some common sense but I guess it's VAC we're talking about.

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Re: VAC Return to Lifetime Pensions Discussion
« Reply #389 on: January 12, 2019, 20:07:44 »
Because I asked 4 different times and every time the answer was the lump sum would be an option and also you would think they won't be so daft to degrade people by paying them 15 or 30$ a month and have some common sense but I guess it's VAC we're talking about.

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They have sent cheques to people for 1 cent so it's not to surprising that they give people $20 a month.

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Re: VAC Return to Lifetime Pensions Discussion
« Reply #390 on: January 12, 2019, 20:11:54 »
They have sent cheques to people for 1 cent so it's not to surprising that they give people $20 a month.

My CM has stated that some people, due to the timing of their claims, their age, are likely to expect some where between $5/10
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Re: VAC Return to Lifetime Pensions Discussion
« Reply #391 on: January 12, 2019, 20:13:33 »
I have also heard wind of a group of lawyers already preparing a class action if the don’t offer it, I’ll dig it up and post.
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Re: VAC Return to Lifetime Pensions Discussion
« Reply #392 on: January 14, 2019, 13:33:28 »
Are you looking for an estimate of what you may receive for an additional monthly amount come 1 April 2019?

Good news – sign in to your My VAC Account or check your mail beginning January 15 for an estimate of your additional monthly amount.

More information: http://ow.ly/cwyc30niVqw
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Re: VAC Return to Lifetime Pensions Discussion
« Reply #393 on: January 14, 2019, 17:28:10 »
They keep repeating this trying to make us all excited and maybe forget how they're going to screw people. Can't wait.

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Re: VAC Return to Lifetime Pensions Discussion
« Reply #394 on: January 14, 2019, 18:42:05 »
They keep repeating this trying to make us all excited and maybe forget how they're going to screw people. Can't wait.

Agreed,
Its funny I had a notice that i had new mail in VAC,
So i checked, and I noticed at the top it said

"You may experience issues on JAnuary 15th signing in, we expect high volumes of traffic"
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Re: VAC Return to Lifetime Pensions Discussion
« Reply #395 on: January 15, 2019, 08:32:10 »
The letter was in there, it was exactly as expected. The spreadsheet was correct with the amount.
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Re: VAC Return to Lifetime Pensions Discussion
« Reply #396 on: January 15, 2019, 09:10:45 »
I get the feeling that upandatom works for VAC.

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Re: VAC Return to Lifetime Pensions Discussion
« Reply #397 on: January 15, 2019, 09:45:18 »
I get the feeling that upandatom works for VAC.

Far from.... I just work from home, I follow VAC pretty closely.
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Re: VAC Return to Lifetime Pensions Discussion
« Reply #398 on: January 15, 2019, 11:24:47 »
The letter was in there, it was exactly as expected. The spreadsheet was correct with the amount.

Did they give you one amount or a range?

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Re: VAC Return to Lifetime Pensions Discussion
« Reply #399 on: January 15, 2019, 11:59:48 »
Did they give you one amount or a range?

I got a range with a difference of $24.99 between the high and low end...as well as several statements to the effect that I might not be eligible, I won't know until April 1 2019; the monthly option, should I be eligible, might be different come April 1, and if I am eligible I will receive payments beginning in April.
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